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Leafleting at Dublin Zoo

category dublin | animal rights | event notice author Sunday August 08, 2010 12:18author by Laura Broxson - National Animal Rights Associationauthor email naracampaigns at gmail dot comauthor address PO Box 11019, Dublin 2 Report this post to the editors

Do you think animals like being in a zoo? Then think again!

Hi,

On Sunday 15th August, we'll be having a leafleting event outside Dublin Zoo. Even if you can only spare 30mins to help the animals, by handing out leaflets or holding a poster, your time would be greatly appreciated.

WHEN: 1pm - 2.30pm, Sun. 15th August

WHERE: The main entrance of Dublin Zoo, in Phoenix Park, Dublin 8.

THE FACTS: http://www.naracampaigns.org/dublinzoo.html

Hope to see you there!

National Animal Rights Association

Related Link: http://www.naracampaigns.org
author by Damien Mpublication date Fri Aug 13, 2010 21:28author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Isn't it a darn sight better than the circus?

author by A Freemanpublication date Sat Aug 14, 2010 12:13author address author phone Report this post to the editors

While zoos clearly aren't an ideal habitat for most species, sometimes captive breeding programmes are needed in order to save species that are facing extinction in the wild (e.g. Javan rhinos, Amur tigers) and zoos can play an important role in this. A wildlife park is always preferable to a zoo but obviously this isn't an option for most city zoos for spatial and financial reasons.

author by George Hillpublication date Sat Aug 14, 2010 12:33author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Going to the zoo and lecturing people about zoos will do nothing whatsoever to advance animal rights. It will just make you feel better in yourselves. I think this planned action is self-indulgent and can actually be counter productive. Families going to the zoo are not going there because they dislike animals. They are going there for a family day out and actually like animals.

Zoos exist. That just something we've inherited from Victorian times. The fact is that those animals are alive and need to be looked after. There is a need to phase out zoos. This is what you should be calling for. In the meantime there is nothing inherently wrong with kids wanting to see animals.

author by jamespublication date Sat Aug 14, 2010 19:23author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Maybe if your lives were not so empty you would be able to have a fun day at the zoo with your children. But you clearly dont have any children as you would then realise that by visiting zoos children get a better understanding of animals and how important it is to resepct and take care of them.Plus monkeys are funny.

author by giraffepublication date Sun Aug 15, 2010 12:04author address author phone Report this post to the editors

*If circuses are worse than zoos, that doesn't make zoos good. Murder is worse than kidnapping, but that doesn't make kidnapping okay.

*While captive breeding programmes are sometimes necessary, they are not what the zoo is primarily about, and if they were, then the ideal environment for them would not be a place where children are taken to eat ice cream and stare.

* Zoos should be phased out. That IS what the protest is trying to achieve.

* Pointless abuse about "empty lives".

Is that it for the criticism? Can the supporters of the zoo not come up with anything better?

author by Laura Broxson - National Animal Rights Associationpublication date Mon Aug 16, 2010 10:32author email naracampaigns at gmail dot comauthor address PO Box 11019, Dublin 2author phone Report this post to the editors

Well said, Giraffe, and thank you for the support!

As for the other people who commented, perhaps you would like to actually read the information listed on our site, before you continue professing your love of zoos: http://www.naracampaigns.org/dublinzoo.html

author by Jacqueline Fallonpublication date Wed Aug 18, 2010 22:48author address author phone Report this post to the editors

One person here seems to think that it is okay to have zoos in cities, even if there is not enough space for the animals, and even sympathises with those zoos for financial reasons - showing your true colours there!

Another amadán mór suggests his children have a better understanding of animals from city zoos. Really, well, would your children understand the two polar bears in Dublin Zoo who went insane in captivity a good few years back (I remember them well, and I knew they were not right , really stuck in my mind the distress they were in, and I understood that as a child at the time). Or in recent times, did your children think the behavour of one of the snow leopards normal, who continuously paced a few steps and then back again in a disturbing repetitive agitated fashion? (that snow leopard seems to have disappeared from Dublin Zoo now, did not see it last time I was there). Now, take a look at these animals in the wild or on the Discovery Channel or on National Geographic and see the difference, and come back to me and tell me that the snow leopards are doing fine as are some of the rest. Your children will never learn about wild animals and understand them from a city zoo - animals do not behave normally in city zoos, as it is not their normal environment.

There are some smaller animals that appear happy enough in Dublin Zoo and not too bothered, but some larger ones are evidently not exhibiting normal behaviour and are clearly distressed. The gorillas have smashed the side of their cage again, I hear, some angry force required to do that job - but then they always look either depressed or angry - but never ever normal!

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