Tallaght to protest against the "Bin Tax" Saturday

by céad mile failte! Mon Sep 22, 2003 16:45

"Now remember the first 24 hours are the worst"
nice screws say that.
& why haven't ye got married?

by stating Mon Sep 22, 2003 16:05

Sorry for rudeness, new to Indymedia and not a mmember of Sinn Fein though my partner is.

by Chekov Mon Sep 22, 2003 14:55

Yez are very touchy - I've never had a go at SF over this, all I've said is 'money where your mouth is' - and I really hope that that is what we are starting to see. The day that I ask anybody to 'clear' anything with me, is the day that I ask everybody to ignore me.

by Stating the obvious Mon Sep 22, 2003 14:37

A bin truck was stopped for a brief period in Donaghmede this morning by a group of six activists, three of whom were Sinn Féin members including the party's local representative Killian Forde.

Sinn Féin may not be aware that the party has a responsibility higher than that which it owes to the people, a responsiblity to please trolls and trots on Indymedia. Unaware that they are of this, they may occasionally forget to clear everything with Chekov and Co.

by matt Mon Sep 22, 2003 11:18

Sinn Féin have voted against the bin charges and are involved in all of the local campaigns. In fact in several city areas, it is republicans who are to the forefront of the whole thing. The SP are showing their true motives in all of this which is to undermine SF as the charges are their last hope of making inroads into working class areas in the City Council. That has always been the role of Trotskyism. Not to take on the state but to undermine the revolutionary left, and all wrapped up in shite about "undermining the illusions of the workers and youth in Stalinism/reformism/provoism" blah de blah. And coincidentially their main enemies are usually the major threat to the state. And why should SF just drop everything just to protest at poor old Joe and Clare? Where were they when people were being tortured and murdered and railroaded by the state? On the same fucking side as the branch and the death squads, ....sorry workers in uniform. That's where. SP are making hames of this campaign and haven't a clue where to go next so why should the rest of them help them out. They'll be calling for a general strike next...

by Ghetto superstar Sat Sep 20, 2003 03:15

Exactly. I had no great love for the Socialist Party but it is them who are putting themselves on the line along with all the residents while Sinn Fein oppose the charges only in words. As the poster above says, its about putting your money where your mouth is.

I went down to the courts today and on Wednesday. In all that time I saw only two elected representatives down there supporting Joe Higgins and Clare Daly of the SP. They were Tony Gregory and Finian McGrath the independent TDs. Not one of the Sinn Fein TDs or councillors bothered their arse to show up.

Maybe other people will have forgotten that by the time the next election comes round but Im telling you that I wont.

by ~ Fri Sep 19, 2003 17:43

tool box.

by Chekov Fri Sep 19, 2003 15:30

They just read out a barage of texts about the bin charges. All in favour of the campaign. 3 in a row were having a go at SF. Maybe this is some sort of orchestrated campaign by some anti-SF people, but I doubt it. You might claim that SF have been very active on the bin-tax, but that doesn't seem to be the general opinion. Personally I'll believe it when I see ye on the blockades. Money where your mouth is.

by Orla Ni Chomhrai Fri Sep 19, 2003 15:11

Taoiseach says tax dodgers are spongers, Today FM news, 2pm
The taoiseach was interviewed about the bin charges and remarked that people who don't pay taxes are spongers.

Does this mean that the taoiseach accepts the campaigners argument that the bin-charges are a second tax on top of income tax? Does this mean he is going to name and shame tax dodgers in Fianna Fail and amongst friendly business men (don't hold your breath!)?

by Jolly Green Giant Fri Sep 19, 2003 14:56

SFs active opposition to the Bin Taxes is well known. Are you a troll? Do the SP agree with this attempt to gain glory for the SP by attacking SF?

Do the SP really believe this is the way to build the campaign?

by Karl Fri Sep 19, 2003 13:59

The 65A/B the 56A go past the Bank of Ireland where the march is assembling

The 77 - get out at the bycyle shop near the roadworks and beside the esso station, cross at the esso station - Iceland is opposite it to the left.

The 77a/49 go through the bottom of Tallaght Village, get off at the TSB bank and walk down past the priory, past the esso station.

All buses to Tallaght Village from town can be got at Eden quay or Dame street.

by pat c Fri Sep 19, 2003 12:55

latest:
Interactive POLL
Should residents have to pay bin charges?


60.79% (352 votes) - Yes
38.17% (221 votes) - No
1.04% (6 votes) - Maybe

by pollster Fri Sep 19, 2003 12:02

RTE poll on bin tax
RTE online have an online poll about bin tax. Get on and vot against them!!

www.rte.ie