Thousands Killed by Governments in US, Iraq and Communist China

by Joe Fri Jan 18, 2008 20:56

I stated that 1100 people have executed in the US since 1986, that should read 1976.

by Jolinar Fri Jan 18, 2008 22:20

The Chinese execute more people annually than the rest of the world combined.

A startling fact and one that is overlooked in the west in light of greater economic co-operation. The west likes China now so refuses to demonise it. China has the worst HR record of any country on the planet yet we hear very little of this from the West.

by Sceptic Fri Jan 18, 2008 23:52

There is sleight of hand in the headline here since there is no comparison between the numbers executed in China and the US and only by combining the toll of 32 years back to 1976 were it possible to come up with a figure of over ONE thousand over all of this period for the US. Moreover execution is a very rare event in the US considering the size of the population now over 300 million. Also the thread deliberates conflates judicial execution with murder. There are entirely distinct concepts that anyone can understand yet language is abused and intelligence insulted by confusing them. The Government of Iraq is autonomous with respect to its own laws and it is facing a deadly civil war as well as such blood soaked specimens as Chemical Ali left over from the Baathist days. In these circumstances some number of executions might be excused. China is not a democracy or a pluralist State and it has executed for so called political crime as well as crime ordinary. Moreover it also has no independent judiciary – that is just another arm of the part. Any comparison with the US does not sand up.

by jayzhus Sat Jan 19, 2008 00:07

Executions in the USA since the reintroduction of the death penalty when compared on an intensity & representational basis with China must take into account the clusters of sentances passed & carried out state by state (in the case of the USA) or province by province (in the case of PRC). you didn't do that. If you had you'd see Texas executes much more people than Xinuan (just for example). Hunan out kills Oregon (just for another example). Sure, fiddle me giggling & merry, Sceptic if we do the demographic representation thing Bloody Sunday was worse than Tianamen Square. But & now I'll concede a point here, coz I'm fair & not looking to provoke you into revealing your prison record - if we compare federal execution warrents in the US to "one state" equivalents in PRC (carried out by the red army) the Chinese are worse by far. What can we learn from this? There's a big difference between a western Chinese ZAL and Texas? Numbers as Galileo's inquisitor said, may crunch whatever way your torturer wants?

I preferred you when you were using your other fake name ID author field names.

by Tom Pierrpoint Sat Jan 19, 2008 07:25

A country that does not execute people for serious crime including theft is clearly barbarous. The Irish and the Indians in America were barbarians and did not have the death until they were civilized by the English.

by Sceptic Sat Jan 19, 2008 11:15

Naturally since the different states of the US have differing views on the death penalty there will be differences in the pattern. But so what? Is there some rule there has to be uniformity of practice in a federal system? Also the fact remains that even among the population of convicted first-degree murderers in the US the rate of execution is very low.

by geral - self Mon Mar 16, 2009 21:16

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Mass murder (sometimes one at a time)

Torture (physical and psychological)

http://www.sosbeevfbi.com/affidavit2007.html

Terrorism

Blackmail (of a mortifying type)

Stalking and kidnapping and fraudulent stings by law enforcement

Burglary, robbery, theft, fraud, extortion

http://www.constitution.org/col/mwswear.htm

Abuse of civil process and disabling calumny
Financial isolation and ruination
Human experimentation (of a monstrous type)
Programming for suicide (inter alia) of the targeted individuals

http://www.sosbeevfbi.com/statement.html

Psychological operations and mind control
Psychoelectronic bombardment

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See links
http://www.sosbeevfbi.com/non-consensual.html

http://www.sosbeevfbi.com/hightechassau.html

http://londonontario.indymedia.org/?q=node/673

http://www.sosbeevfbi.com/part5-updatefor2.html

http://www.sosbeevfbi.com/part11-updatefor.html

C h e m i c a l , Viral & Biological Assaults:

http://www.sosbeevfbi.com/part16-updatefor.html

http://www.sosbeevfbi.com/tooth14.html

http://www.sosbeevfbi.com/letterformthemed.html

Psychoelectronic Assaults:
http://sosbeevfbi.ning.com/forum/topics/psychoelectroni...eapon

Nukings:
(Warning: graphic material, adult viewing only) To see what really can happen go to:
http://titan.iwu.edu/%7Erwilson/Peace.pdf

Intrusive, continuous and disturbing surveillance (physical and electronic) twenty four hours a day, seven days a week
-aided by tracking devices implanted in the person and properties of the Target
http://www.sosbeevfbi.com/tracking.html

http://www.sosbeevfbi.com/brainscanofsosbe.html

-with invasions into home, office and car; and with strategic tamperings therein designed to drive the Target insane

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http://www.sosbeevfbi.com/thelawoftheunite.html

Click here To See Evidence Of Corruption In The United States Embassies Worldwide
http://www.sosbeevfbi.com/psychotronicscon.html#dec 24 2005

USA Admission to Use of Neuronal Entrainment, Etc.:
See the following admission by USA, showing that my reports of high tech assaults on my person are legitimate.
The data shown in the Neuron Entrainment link below confirms that indeed the fbi/cia/marines, etc. have (and use) the high tech weaponry against human beings, and more particularly against this veteran:
Note that under the psychoelectronic bombardment, chemical and stalking sections (at ‘world in a box’), there are several links; here are five more very important links to add to the list:
add to the list:
1)
C h e m i c a l, biological, and viral assaults on human beings
http://www.governmentattic.org/docs/FBI-Army_Bacteriolo...s.pdf
2)
FBI efforts to hide identities of its thugs, thieves, assassins, dirty cops and self serving corrupt bureaucrats
http://www.governmentattic.org/docs/FBI_FOIPA_EffectOnL...4.pdf
3)
Psychoelectronic bombardment http://www.governmentattic.org/docs/USMC_NeuronalEntrai...8.pdf
4)
United States Army Civilian Inmate Labor program
http://www.apfn.org/pdf/prison_camps.pdf
5)
See Germs & Viruses 'Made In The USA'
http://www.fas.org/irp/congress/2007_hr/germs.pdf

See the following links for more on fbi thuggery & homicidal mindset:
http://laura-knight-jadczyk.blogspot.com/2006/01/how-to-spot-cointelpro-agents.html
and:
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/FBI/Verelli_SecretWar....html
and:
http://justicedenied.org/issue/issue_27/steven_manning_....html
and:
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/fedagencies/april97/fbi_....html
and:
http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/5/30/...shtml