19 Hours, 7 minutes, 50 seconds against Shell in Rossport

by Fearbolg - S2S Fri Dec 28, 2007 11:36

Dear sir,

if you really believe a journalist needs to be 'objective and unbiased' could you trouble yourself to find and read the three articles written by

Kevin Myers about this matter in his column in the Indo over the last two years. Your innocence is touching, but a quick perusal of what

that loser has written, including what appears to be an incitement to assasinate certain protesters, should bring you quickly into the real

world.

by Chekov Thu Dec 27, 2007 15:59

Dear mr 'ego',

Your choice of moniker and line of argument betray both an unjustified bitterness and a total ignorance of the role of the journalist. I can only assume that you are an opponent of shell to sea and happy to attack your opponents on any old grounds at all.

Firstly, there is no possible way that anybody who knew anything about journalism could think that 'freelance journalist' is a grand title - it simply describes somebody who works as a journalist but has no regular job and has to flog their work to the media by the piece. You could start submitting articles to the media tomorrow and become a 'freelance journalist'. If you demonstrate over a period of time that this is your main source of income, then you will be eligible to join the NUJ.

Secondly, having a go at the presenter of a documentary for his 'ego' is more than a little silly, not to mention bitter and spiteful. The whole point of a presenter is that he fronts the piece - he wouldn't be much effing use if he kept his head down and his mouth shut in a display of modesty likely to impress your begrudgery. Also, it's undoubtedly the case that the use of such devices (i.e. a presenter who is involved in the action) helps tremendously with effective communication of the material to the audience and such devices are used frequently in corporate documentary production simply because they make the material more engaging and easier to relate to. It's no surpise at all that people such as w. who are brave enough to put their faces to such important roles should be the target of bitter begrudgers.

Thirdly, your claim that "a journalist is expected to be objective and unbiased" is simply false. The NUJ code of conduct requires that "a journalist shall strive to ensure that the information he/she disseminates is fair and accurate, avoid the expression of comment and conjecture as established fact and falsification by distortion, selection or misrepresentation." As long as the information is accurate and the journalist believes it is fairly presented, there is no compulsion to be 'objective' - journalists can and do ethically take sides on issues all the time. The code also allows the expression of comment as long as it is not presented as established fact. The piece above is clearly entitled "against shell" and the point of view of the participants is extraordinarily obvious throughout. Only a total moron would claim that this commentary is attempting to be an exposition of established fact.

by Z Thu Dec 27, 2007 15:29

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by Ego Ronney Thu Dec 27, 2007 14:34

Well Mr w.

If this is how you make your money then I suppose you are a freelance journalist.

Now that we have established your credentials as bona fide please riddle me this!

If a journalist is expected to be objective and unbiased do you think this video has any journalistic merit?

by w. Thu Dec 27, 2007 01:13

Its my job. Thats how I make money.

by ZZZ Wed Dec 26, 2007 21:16

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by ZZZ Wed Dec 26, 2007 21:12

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by ZZZ Wed Dec 26, 2007 21:08

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by ZZZ Wed Dec 26, 2007 21:06

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by ZZZ Wed Dec 26, 2007 20:45

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by ZZ Wed Dec 26, 2007 20:31

In this video protestors discuss the reasons for their demonstration outside Shell HQ in Ireland. They argue against what they believe is the undemocratic distribution of Irish gas overseas.

To download:

http://www.vuze.com/details/DT6LCUMUDMYNOBFQSKI34TPYWPW....html

by Z Wed Dec 26, 2007 20:08

This video mainly focuses on the potentially devastating environmental consequences that the proposed Corrib Gas Refinery will have in Ballinaboy, County Mayo. There are interviews with Shell’s public relationship (propaganda), representatives Sea to Sea Activists, and reports of direct actions against the Corrib Gas Project (in its present form).

English subtitles included.

by MacE Wed Dec 26, 2007 18:16

Most of us protesters are from Mayo, Len. That's not true of the outside (often violent) troublemakers such as:

Shell
Statoil
Marathon Oil
An Garda Síochána (Bellinaboy Battalion)
Shell Security (all the way from Longford, and beyond)

To any interested media; if you're at Bellinaboy any day and would like to talk to someone from Mayo, your best bet is head for the protesters. The troublemakers are almost always from somewhere else (see above list).

by patron saint of warm water Mon Dec 24, 2007 19:15

Excellent video, hopefully the next one won't take so long.

For those who don't want to wait, check out some of the other Rossport videos on youtube:

http://ie.youtube.com/DrFoxtopus,

http://ie.youtube.com/rg6y
or

www.youtube.ie/shelltohell

by Chrissie Mon Dec 24, 2007 18:45

- than what Shell, Mayo CC & all are proposing - amen to that!

by St.Luke Warm Sun Dec 23, 2007 21:41

Operating pressure of line

suggestion:

A: How about a pressure that's been used for a pipeline in a residential area with this kind of profile (blanket bog, prone to landslides) before in Ireland?

and

B: How about a pressure limit that is acceptable to the people who will have to live near it?

Or

C: How about refining the gas at sea, the way it's done at Kinsale and hundreds of other locations around the world?