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Coolacrease - The Hidden Interview - an Indymedia EXCLUSIVE!
national | history and heritage | feature Sunday December 02, 2007 23:07 by Pat Muldowney
Audio of the evidence RTE censored - published in the interests of FREE SPEECH
This exclusive comes in a tradition of Indymedia exclusives that brought you the
British Ambassador’s letter in 1969, when the then Managing Director of the Irish Times, called his Editor and fellow Protestant, Douglas Gageby, “a renegade or white nigger” for his coverage of Northern Ireland.
RTE broadcast a 'Hidden History' programme on 23 October 2007, about the IRA shooting of Richard and Abraham Pearson of Coolacrease, near Cadamstown, Co. Offaly, in June 1921, during the War of Independence. It was made by Niamh Sammon and featured (unelected) Senator Eoghan Harris of the Sunday Independent.
Now a researcher, PhD student Philip McConway, has accused the programme of distorting his views. Local historian, Paddy Heaney, related to an IRA volunteer who died from stomach wounds inflicted by the Pearsons, said the programme left the guts of his interview on the cutting room floor. Another interview, with Pat Muldowney, never made it at all, not one second. His interview with Niamh Sammon of Reel Story Productions, has never been heard by the public. Until now that is...Today, tonight (to coin a phrase), Indymedia brings you audio of the Muldowney-Sammon interview. Not all of it, we are not miracle workers, and the quality is, we admit, not the best. But it is good enough.
Related Links: Indymedia asks Hidden History or Hidden Agenda? | The Story Starts Here | The Hidden History documentary strand returns to RTÉ | Review of I Met Murder On The Way | War Of Independence Debate On Sectarianism Descends On Unassuming Offaly | Cedar Lounge Revolution Bloggers on Coolacrease |
Audio One - the Hidden Muldowney interview - Part one 3.12 Mb
Audio Two - the Hidden Muldowney interview - Part two 0.92 Mb
by Brian Murphy Sun Dec 09, 2007 19:31
Airing Protestant voices
by Ned Stapleton Wed Dec 12, 2007 19:37
Eoghan ('genitals') Harris throws a half-wobbler with Ursula ('hush-puppy') Halligan on TV3. See the un-Coolacrease un-elected Senator get up to go, and then ask plaintively: "Are we going to re-record this...?
The subject, Bertie's dig-out money.
Here it is on U Tube:
by Pat Muldowney Thu Dec 13, 2007 21:03
by Pat Muldowney Sat Dec 15, 2007 21:25
by CDR Sun Dec 16, 2007 00:39
Patronising in the extreme...Pat "explaining" the documentary to us - as if we didn't get it first time round...the pits.
by Media watcher Sun Dec 16, 2007 09:14
Television viewing involves continuous exposure to thousands of moving images and a variety of programmes. The human brain can only retain a fraction of what appears on the goggle box. Muldowney is reminding us of one programme among hundreds that average viewers have seen in recent months. He is right to draw attention to particular evasions, imbalances and insinuations that were cleverly built into the screened documentary by post production editors. I think there should be a national whip around by concerned individuals to enable Muldowney to publish his detailed critique in book form. RTE has been tinkering around with Irish history. I am glad to see it being exposed.
by Sharon . - Individual . Sun Dec 16, 2007 10:04
....for those who didn't "get it first time round".
by Pat Muldowney Tue Dec 18, 2007 13:19
by Pat Muldowney Tue Dec 18, 2007 19:37
The second from last Comment above reads:
by Pat Muldowney Thu Jan 03, 2008 22:38
by the boy chicken Sat Jan 05, 2008 02:01
the IRA killed/murdered/assasinated/shot whatever local minority protestants in Cork, this meant that Unionists in the six counties were never going to accept Dublin rule which meant the impossibility of a 32 county Ireland.
by Reel Journalist Sat Jan 05, 2008 08:53
When the British Parliament enacted (without implementing) a county council type of Home Rule for Ireland, Protestant Ulster formed an army, with German weapons, to smash by force the decision of Parliament. When Parliament surrendered to anti-parliamentary force and violence, supporters of Home Rule under Britain, such as Pearse, de Valera and most of the rest of Ireland, drew the reasonable conclusion that democracy could not be achieved under British sovereignty. This judgement was confirmed when the British government sought to overturn by force the Irish election results of 1918, 1920 and 1921.
by boy chicken Sat Jan 05, 2008 11:59
"The Ulster resort to anti-Parliamentary force pre-dated the events in Cork by a decade or so. Their minds were made up long before."
by Reel Journalist Sat Jan 05, 2008 12:52
Your argument is: "the IRA killed/murdered/assasinated/shot whatever local minority protestants in Cork, this meant that Unionists in the six counties were never going to accept Dublin rule which meant the impossibility of a 32 county Ireland." Your argument is a false one. My point is that Unionists in the six counties had made up their minds to go their separate way long before the Cork events, and that those events made no difference whatever to that decision.
by Interested Sat Jan 05, 2008 16:26
Protestant Ulster formed an army, with German weapons
by crookstown Sat Jan 05, 2008 17:46
Ulster Unionists imported weapons from Germany in 1914 in order to resist by force home rule.
by Pat Muldowney Sat Jan 05, 2008 18:49
On April 24 1914, under cover of a test mobilization of the Ulster Volunteer Force, a consignment of 40,000 German Mauser rifles was landed at Larne, Co. Antrim, and at Bangor and Donaghadee, Co. Down.
by dungannonman Sun Jan 06, 2008 07:02
Ulster Unionists imported weapons from Germany in 1914 in order to resist by force home rule.
by Pat Muldowney Mon Jan 07, 2008 20:19
by Dan Gerfield Mon Jan 07, 2008 23:59
Martin Mansergh has written some interesting views on the subject.
by Shuttle Tue Jan 08, 2008 21:41
Mansergh's article is a typically long-winded affair that makes you wonder why he bothered to put pen to paper but the key lines with regard to the Pearsons (and which undermines much of Muldowney's thesis here on Indymedia) are:
by Nihil Nisi Verum Tue Jan 08, 2008 21:54
RTE's argument is that the Pearsons were innocent farmers who were murdered for their land.
by Shuttle Tue Jan 08, 2008 22:05
Though in fairness, very, very few who know this story give any credibility to Muldowney's argument...except of course for the obsessives on this blog.
by Lurkalot Tue Jan 08, 2008 22:21
How those two pieces of Mansergh's waffle can be interpreted as having undermined any of Pat Muldowney's article is beyond me. Perhaps you are scratching around for straws if you have to claw at Mansergh's meandering and as you say yourself "typically long-winded" musings.
by Lurkalot Tue Jan 08, 2008 22:38
Entitled to your opinion, Lurkalot, but his essential arguments still sits uncomfortably with Muldowney's thesis of the Pearson's guilt (which Mansergh doubts). More examples:
by Shuttle Tue Jan 08, 2008 22:40
Sorry, should have signed myself "Shuttle"
by lurktoo Wed Jan 09, 2008 03:14
I read it as the complete opposite as you, he was saying it was cruel ,but the Pearsons shot at the wrong people at the wrong time. maybe you should broadcast your view of Mansergh's article on RTE and everyone will think its true. More revisionism
by Challenge Wed Jan 09, 2008 07:33
"he was saying ...the Pearsons shot at the wrong people at the wrong time".
by Nihil Nisi Verum Wed Jan 09, 2008 10:44
Harris and RTE: "The Pearsons were innocent farmers murdered, with sexual mutilation, for their land."
by Nfren Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:51
Nihil Nisi Verum wrote:
by Joe Bloggs educated Wed Jan 09, 2008 12:08
Mansergh is the silken-tongued Oxbridge graduate from a refined protestant pedigree and knows how to phrase his letter/article in that delicately balanced "truth must lie somewhere in the nuanced middle" style. It keeps him onside with the FF blue collar and peasant proprietor grassroots rump while appearing to say a little bit in favour of the hardworking chapel attending non-Anglo Protestants who lived nervously through the troubled period from 1918 to 1923.
by Joker Wed Jan 09, 2008 12:18
The only place where this information can be seen by the public is at
by Jack Lane Wed Jan 09, 2008 22:28 jacklaneaubane at hotmail dot com
Mr. Mansergh comes to the defence of Niamh Sammon and the Hidden History programme in his Examiner letter when he says that "The justification of military necessity is doubtful in the case of Coolacrease". He asks "Did the Pearsons think they were challenging marauders cutting a tree on their property at a time of much lawlessness, or did they fully realise that they were taking on the local IRA?"
by Harry Wells - The Well, Well, Well Foundation Fri Jan 11, 2008 22:37
History Ireland (Jan-Feb 08) follows Indymedia, Sunday Business Post and others......
by Pat Muldowney Wed Jan 16, 2008 22:19
by Pat Muldowney Sat Jan 19, 2008 10:05
by Pat Muldowney Mon Jan 21, 2008 09:00
The above letter was published in today's Examiner.
by Anti_Stalinist Mon Jan 21, 2008 13:11
"Most people were not "bystanders" on that issue. They had voted. And, if most people were not active in the war, that is usually the case in all wars. "
by Celtic Mon Jan 21, 2008 14:37
By far the more interesting and accurate letter is the one from Brendan Cafferty in the same paper, The Irish Examiner:
by tony mullen Mon Jan 21, 2008 20:32
Sectarian or not? Presbyterian view of IRA actions in War of Independence
by Will Anderson Tue Jan 22, 2008 13:33
The 'History Ireland Editorial' and Brian Hanley's article criticised the shoddy sensationalism of the RTE programme, particularly the unsupported Eoghan Harris allegation of 'sexual mutilation' and the 'land grabbing' claim.
by Pat Muldowney Thu Feb 07, 2008 21:49
Hidden History: The Killings at Coolacrease
by Ganelin Thu Feb 07, 2008 23:12
So many holes in Pat's "critical" commentary, it's difficult to know where to start.
by Maedhbh Masson Fri Feb 08, 2008 08:05
You'll have to do better than that, Niamh, if you want to save your career!
by Ganelin Fri Feb 08, 2008 13:02
That Maedhbh Masson should write:
by John Montgomery Fri Feb 08, 2008 17:37
And History Ireland, the Sunday Business Post, etc......
by Joker Sat Feb 09, 2008 10:09
Now now, Meadhbh and John! Be nice to Niamh now that she has graced us with a visit. After all, she has conceded that the Pearsons had a stash of guns and ammunition for use against stray dogs, their neighbours, and other vermin! And the Melbourne Argus newspaper reporter probably picked up the "500 Raiders" story from a typo in a piece of paper in London, not from William Pearson in Australia. Let's be reasonable, coincidences happen!
by Pat Muldowney Tue Feb 12, 2008 22:01
by Corry Tue Feb 12, 2008 23:15
Earlier in this thread, Pat Muldowney commented;
by Carry Wed Feb 13, 2008 11:27
The comment above, critical of Pat Muldowney is just that, a comment. No attempt to back it up with an example. For the record, in referring to the "very few" (how does he know?) readers of this thread, Corry might like to be aware of a fact. This thread continues from:
by Pat Muldowney Wed Feb 20, 2008 12:21
by Pat Muldowney Sun Feb 24, 2008 17:02
by Pat Muldowney Sun Feb 24, 2008 18:28
Pearsons in Wikipedia:
by Akg Sun Feb 24, 2008 20:33
"Perhaps it’s a little warning we can deal with in some cases, I suppose…".
by Sierra Sat Mar 08, 2008 02:24
The Broadcasting Complaints Commission (BCC), an independent statutory body, with the responsibility to deal with all broadcasting complaints concerning radio and television broadcasters licensed within the Republic of Ireland, has rejected Pat Muldowney's formal complaint regarding RTE's Hidden History programme, "The Killings of Coolacrease".
by Browser Sat Mar 08, 2008 10:53
"The Broadcasting Complaints Commission (BCC), an independent statutory body, with the responsibility to deal with all broadcasting complaints concerning radio and television broadcasters licensed within the Republic of Ireland, has rejected Pat Muldowney's formal complaint regarding RTE's Hidden History programme, "The Killings of Coolacrease"."
by Pat Muldowney Sat Mar 08, 2008 11:03
I was puzzled to read the above post earlier this morning (Saturday), and checked the Broadcasting Complaints Commission regulations at
by John Martin - Irish Political Review Sat Mar 08, 2008 11:31
by Browser Sat Mar 08, 2008 11:54
Is this Indymedia.ie or the House Un-American Activities Committee?
by Ireland's Own Sat Mar 08, 2008 12:41
Muldowney's refusal to accept fact is, at times, breathtaking.
by Reel Journalist Sat Mar 08, 2008 13:12
Ireland's Own Niamh/Sierra keeps banging on about the British Military Court of Inquiry verdict of "willful murder".
by John Martin - Irish Political Review Sat Mar 08, 2008 13:36
Browser, in answer to your question of a few posts ago, the decision of the BCC has not been made public on its website, but “Ireland’s Own” and “Sierra” seem to know what that decision was and why it was made. They are not ordinary joe/Josephine bloggers.
by Browser Sat Mar 08, 2008 16:17
At 11.03, Pat Muldowney said:
by Browser Sun Mar 09, 2008 13:07
Since 11.03am on Saturday 8th, the information about the BCC's
by Dirk Bogarde Sun Mar 09, 2008 19:39
Sierra is right of course, the obsessives will fall back on History Ireland and any other naive defenders of their position now, even though according to the Irish Political Review the Hist Ireland piece was not good enough at all. Their defence of sectarian murder is coming apart.
by JInky Jimmy Johnstone Mon Mar 10, 2008 12:04
Why did the artists formally known as BICO in the IPR not like HI?
by Ted Staples Mon Mar 10, 2008 12:06
by Kolpik Mon Mar 10, 2008 18:23
Indymedia contributor Ted Staples stated:
by Ted Staples Mon Mar 10, 2008 22:36
Ted Staples "medical expertise"
by Levin Mon Mar 10, 2008 23:03
"Ted Staples [that's me, folks]" stated:
by Ted Staples Mon Mar 10, 2008 23:40
I stand by what I wrote above (apart from botching the spelling of botched) - the rest is, as i said, Eoghan Harris inspired fantasy, from his groupies (who cannot interpret a sentence).
by PDF Link Tue Mar 11, 2008 10:48
From Tullamore Tribune 7 & 14 November 2007
Tullamore Tribune 7& 14 November 2007 - Hidden history researcher on the Pearsons 1.11 Mb
by Lehi Tue Mar 11, 2008 16:51
It's a sad case when you have to recycle old material to prop up a now discredited argument.
by PDF link Tue Mar 11, 2008 19:54
Actually, It is called historical research, which people with open minds read.
by Lehi Tue Mar 11, 2008 20:27
It is "historical research" which people with open minds (historians, BCC and the like) have dismissed.
by Johnson Tue Mar 11, 2008 21:44
The Kolpik/Ted Staples/Levin spat earlier on in the thread about the "shooting in the groin" issue has raised some interesting points.
by Reel Journalist Tue Mar 11, 2008 23:35
SENATOR HARRIS’S ALLEGATION:
by Ted Tue Mar 11, 2008 23:48
People in the area know the programme was a stitch-up from beginning to end. The previous rubbish but 'silence' is an attempt to make the whole thing very 'mysterious' - a specter of the countryside for credulous middle class townies. Eoghan 'Sigmund Freud' Harris made a sex-and-death soundbite out of one bullet in one of the two brothers. The story gets legs from associating the rest of the bullets from the execution party with the 'sex-and-death' projectile. The execution party must have been remarkably bad shots, since they all, apart from one sharpshooter, missed this vital organ they were supposedly all aiming at - though if that were the case then the whole theory falls apart, since the one bullet that passed through one brother's groin was presumably (on the balance of probability) badly aimed also.
by history buff Wed Mar 12, 2008 05:02
It was a stitch-up on the part of ideologically motivated individuals in the belly of the RTE beast at Montrose. What ought to be done as a follow-up to this blog thread and the other two is to bring the detailed refutation to a wider public that doesn't visit indymedia, and a public that doesn't use the internet (still quite a lot of Irish households, I gather). I'd urge a series of whiparounds to raise funds so that Muldowney can publish his comments and facts in book form. Don't let sticky journalists and antinationalist historians corner the market in scholarly books. Don't let the machinations of RTE historiographers and social commentators go unchallenged. We pay these people to promote public broadcasting and we have a right constantly to talk back to them and 'out' their distortions and veiled biases.
by John Martin - Irish Political Review Wed Mar 12, 2008 08:45
by Lehi Wed Mar 12, 2008 18:30
A few dictionary definitions of the term "groin":
by Joker Wed Mar 12, 2008 19:15
by Ted Wed Mar 12, 2008 20:05
by John Martin - Irish Political Review Wed Mar 12, 2008 21:12
Regarding the question of what a groin is, firstly:
by Johnson Wed Mar 12, 2008 21:48
John Martin asked:
by Ted Wed Mar 12, 2008 22:39
re: The "shooting in the groin" issue
by Johnson Wed Mar 12, 2008 22:47
Ted, being a bit slow, didn't get the name first time round - Johnson.
by Ted Wed Mar 12, 2008 23:22
So, which member of the human race did he have this conversation with, not-Niamh?
by Joker Thu Mar 13, 2008 05:37
Why is Niamh (for it is she!) so desperate to make an impression here on Indymedia, when she had, first, her programme, then RTE, and now the BCC to make her case for her? For the past few days she has been here practically round the clock.
by Tony O'Neill Thu Mar 13, 2008 09:40
Will the articel in History Ireland be part of any further investigation? What is that magazine's agenda? I note a very distinct nationalist bias in its reporting.
by Joseph Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:18
And I know a very good man for the job - come back Senator Joseph McCarthy. Your (old) country needs you for a 'House too-Irish Activities Committee' inquiry.
by Lehi Thu Mar 13, 2008 11:53
The Broadcasting Complaints Commission have published the entire complaints and rejections on their website.
by Joseph Thu Mar 13, 2008 12:43
"Now we wait patiently for the few contributors to this blog to tear it apart."
by Browser Thu Mar 13, 2008 12:49
The Link to the BCC's decision is here:
by Joseph Thu Mar 13, 2008 13:11
Gosh, then, you're saying, Browser, that the people who are attacking this programme are like people who did not like to see Catholic clergy accused of sexual abuse.
by Browser Thu Mar 13, 2008 13:28
I mentioned the controversy was similar to the Ballyseedy and
by John Martin - Irish Political Review Thu Mar 13, 2008 14:02
I’m happy to give people time to read the BCC’s judgements before I make any detailed comments.
by John Martin - Irish Political Review Wed Mar 19, 2008 18:57
Given there was a fair amount of postings – although possibly by the same person – between the time the BCC decision was known by a select number of people and the time it was published, it was maybe surprising that there has been nothing but a series of irrelevancies from supporters of the documentary since the decision has been made public.
by Pat Muldowney Thu Apr 03, 2008 19:17
A critique of the Broadasting Complaints Commission adjudication can be read at http://docs.indymedia.org/view/Main/CoolaCrease where further documents will be made available, exposing the methods of RTÉ and BCC.
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a situationist in historians (or is that mathematicians) clothes
You will find the background to this post meticulously documented here: http://indymedia.ie/article/84547
Dialup will handle it : Just go make a cup of tea : It'll keep you going (laughing) for weeks
A feature length documentary RTE would never ever ever broadcast going hand over fist on torrent networks and elsewhere. I'm only putting it here because its banned / censored from polytricks(manybloodsuckinginsects).ie by the main man dave. (hi Dave)
It's a strange business the documentary business. Pat should do a version of the Pearsons film with his own voiceover: It'd go like hotcakes I tell ya on the torrents.
Route Irish (Or How I learned To Stop Worrying And Love The Black Pope): http://indymedia.ie/article/85188
A song for the night thats in it
'The last day of November will be remembered well
And how poor revisionists fared that night, no tongue can ever tell
The wind blew high, the seas grew rough, and in torrents fell the rain
They never saw such a night before and may they do again'
Now I see why Niamh Sammon didn't bother including Pat Muldowney's interview. Hopeless.
I've just been listening to the tape.
Niamh Sammon caught Pat Muldowney out badly on the question of where the body was!!
Muldowney had all the documents from the British authorities, the Irish authorities and the evidence of Paddy Heaney regarding the shooting by the Pearsons of Mick Heaney and Tom Donnelly. But where was the body?
Would it have been too much to ask for Pat to go to the local graveyard, dig up one of the bodies and bring it to the hotel? Okay he didn't have to bring it in to the actual hotel. The camera crew could have gone out to the car park and he could have opened the boot a la the opening scene from "Goodfellows" and... Voila.
The fact that Muldowney failed to produce a body means that the veracity of the documents from the British Authorities and the Irish Authorities can be doubted (sure the British were only cogging from the IRA and the we know what the IRA is like). The evidence of Paddy Heaney and local historians can also be safely dismissed because it contradicts the opinions of Eoghan Harris, who works for a Sunday newspaper that always tells the truth.
So the Pearsons never shot and wounded two IRA men. They never shot and wounded ex RIC man Bert Hogg. It never happened.
The Pearsons were Amish like pacifists with no interest in politics.
Q.E.D. as Muldowney might say.
P[auline] O'Neill is quite wrong. The information in the interview and Muldowney's recent letter in the Irish Times (reproduced here) indicate why Sammon and the anointed Senator Harris could not handle the information - if they broadcast the RIC County Inspector's evidence, their whole programme would have fallen apart. So, they censored it. Sammon made a fool of herself arguing the toss about it in the Irish Times - the place to do it was in the programme. She missed her chance and revealed her methods. She had a bad teacher.
Well done Pat Muldowney.
(The post above revealed a broadcaster's - or an ex broadcaster's? - conceit - that interviewees are supposed to perform like poodles. Real as distinct form 'Reel' people have their own ideas.)
The 'Reel' reason NIamh Sammon did not broadcast the Muldowney interview - Irish Times 27 Nov 2007
When Paddy Heaney wrote about this episode in 2002, he was ignored, because his facts ruined a 'good' story.
Looks like RTE missed out on the Pearsons wounding an RIC man, Bert Hogg, as well. He lost a lung, whereas Paddy Heaney's relative was severely wounded in the stomach, and died as a result some years later.
(I suppose if either had been shot by the IRA those would have counted as shots to the groin, or "the sexual parts" in Eoghan Harris's helpful description.)
Paddy Heaney wrote 'At the foot of Slieve Bloom' in 2002 - click to read
Brian Murphy letter in Irish Examiner (Dec 3 2007, scanned)
I see from Paddy Heaneys letter that Bill Glynn, the last remaining survivor of the road block party died a few years ago. I
Perhaps its time for Peter Hart to inverviw Bill Glynn.
Apart from Mayo's McCafferty (who operates a rent-a-right--wing-quote franchise on behalf of Shell, other multinationals, and fellow cranks) the criticism of the Hidden History Coolacrease programme keeps coming - click the graphic to read the letters.
Tullamore Tribune November 28 2007 - More RTE Hidden History criticism - CLICK TO READ
Printed in the Tullamore Tribune November 7th and 14th
Copies also available at Offaly History Society website:
PDF of article can also be downloaded here.
RTE broadcast an interview of Philip McConway asserting that the Pearson sisters had seen the executions, a month after he informed Reel Story Productions that he had come across new evidence causing him to revise and to change his view. Yet they went ahead and broadcast this after McConway warned them that it was no longer his view.
Looks like some revisionism is acceptable, and some not!
Major articles on the War of Independence in Offaly - Tullamore Tribune 7-14 November 2007 - PDF download here and at http://www.offalyhistory.com/
The public roadway beside their land, where the Pearsons attacked an IRA tree-felling party
Walter Mitchell, Protestant Republican in Co Offaly
Tullamore Methodists, who rejected northern unionist charge that Protestants in south under attack - and who condemned attacks on northern Catholics by northern unionists
PDF of Tullamore Tribune artices - also at Offaly Historical Society website http://www.offalyhistory.com/ 1.11 Mb