Raytheon9 back in court for remand hearing

by shane Thu Sep 07, 2006 19:13

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by shane Thu Sep 07, 2006 19:17

Photos Copyleft Goretti Horgan with her new bourgeois digital camera :))

by Best of luck Fri Sep 08, 2006 00:50

Respect to the Raytheon 9 and the DAWC.
Best of luck in October lads!!!

by norepublicsoftness Fri Sep 08, 2006 10:32

Hope the judge throws away the key and gives these protesters a sentence that they will not forget

do not let these codgers hide behind the law

make sure that they pay a heavy price for their criminal behaviour

Write to Raytheon to ensure that they prosecute these turds to the max!!!!!!!

Solidarity!!! with the people of Derry(not some leftie from the world of ISMs, anarchism,socialism etc)

by anon Fri Sep 08, 2006 10:40

Mucho support, respect and praise for the Raytheon 9 at the Anti-War Ireland public meeting here in Dublin last night. People are behind you in AWI anyway!

Solidarity.

by radicaljonny Fri Sep 08, 2006 13:03

It appears to me that that the implicit agreement made between Raytheon and the public would be: If you tolerate this, then we promise that it will never be your children.

The same tacit agreement comes from Blair, Bush, and Ahern; if it's not happening to you, then it's not happening.

But it is happening. Raytheon makes its billions by manufacturing weapons, which it sells to whoever can afford them, for whatever purpose the purchaser wishes. That's capitalism. That would make Raytheon, at the absolutely very least, an accomplice in the crimes the weapons are used to commit.

If I sell a handgun to a person on the street, and that person uses the hangun to murder someone, I would face a jail sentence. If Raytheon sells a multi-million pound weapons system to someone, and it is used to kill civilians, blow up a water treatment plant, etc., no questions asked. Why the double standard?

But cause and effect never seem to come up. For most people, Raytheon is just a building. It doesn't make anything in particular; it just sits there and provides jobs. And isn't that always a good thing?

Irish people ,north and south, are taking responsibility for what's happening in their country. The Dail, the Northern Ireland Assembly (it almost seems precious to mention it, doesn't it?), and London don't care. Worse, they're making a fortune off the profits. That tells me that the ordinary channels of democracy have fundamentally broken down.

Peace and solidarity with the brave people who say, 'no more.'

by MichaelY - iawm Fri Sep 08, 2006 13:22

The Raytheon Nine appeared in court today and were remanded on continuing bail to appear again in court on 12 October.
The nine stormed the Derry base of US arms manufacturer Raytheon on Wednesday 9 August, barricading themselves into the building. Raytheon produce software for Guided Missile Units used by Israel's army in its assault on Lebanon.

Before the hearing Eamonn McCann, one of the nine, read out the following statement on behalf of the group outside the Derry Courthouse :

"We want to thank everyone who has come here this morning to associate themselves with us. We associate ourselves with you and with all in Derry who have been appalled by the war in the Middle East and the suffering on all sides, inflicted especially and most cruelly in recent weeks on the Arab people of Lebanon and Palestine.
We are a small part of the great movement around the world calling for an end to the malign involvement in the region of the western powers, particularly the US and Britain.The nine of us stand together behind the action taken at Raytheon on 9 August. We hold that we had a legal right and a political and moral duty to do what we did. We will not face the court as the accused, but as
the accusers. We shall endeavour to expose the illegal and immoral record of arms companies like Raytheon in fuelling the war for the sake of profit
We send greetings to the peace campaigners who have been maintaining a vigil at Raytheon's missile headquarters in Tuscon, Arizona, and who have this morning conveyed their solidarity with us. We thank the members of the Fife Anti-War Coalition, who are picketing the Raytheon plant at Glenrothes today to show their support for us. We salute Margaret Jones and Paul Milling, who have gone on trial this week at Bristol Crown Court for resisting war crimes at RAF Fairford.

We thank all those who have expressed support for us, from various political parties and from none.
The whole world is watching, not this case in Derry but the world-wide phenomenon of which this case is part, the global resistance to war and imperialism, the real international community which represents the last best hope of humankind."

by James Campbell - Tyrconnel St Fri Sep 08, 2006 13:25

"Hope the judge throws away the key and gives these protesters a sentence that they will not forget

do not let these codgers hide behind the law

make sure that they pay a heavy price for their criminal behaviour

Write to Raytheon to ensure that they prosecute these turds to the max!!!!!!!

Solidarity!!! with the people of Derry(not some leftie from the world of ISMs, anarchism,socialism etc)"

The crazed tone of your post and the fact that you resort to name calling betrays your lack of rational argument.

If you see such a distinction in position on Raytheon between leftists/antiwar activists and the rest of the Derry population, why don't you organise a pro-Raytheon rally at the court house next time & see who turns up?

by Ciaron O'Reilly - Catholic Worker/Ploughshares Fri Sep 08, 2006 13:26

Solidairty from Dublin Catholic Worker crew and network. Also from Scott & Clare (in a letter received this week) and the Worcester CW who have nonviolented resisted Raytheon in Massachusettes for many years.

See you Monday night in Derry
Public meeting in Derry
Monday Sept 11th.
Raytheon 9 and Pit Stop Ploughshares
More info....

http://www.indymedia.ie/article/78252

by MichaelY - iawm Fri Sep 08, 2006 13:32

A footnote to the above:

It is particularly ironic that this attack on the right to protest should be taking place under the authority of Peter Hain, British Secretary of State for Northern Ireland. Hain made his political reputation in the early 1970s as an anti-apartheid activist who organized direct action against tours by the South African rugby and cricket teams. As a leading figure on the Labour left, he continued to endorse direct action, writing in 1983: 'the more direct action there is against nuclear weapons in Britain, the greater the freedom a Labour government will have to get rid of them.'

The Raytheon Nine are facing imprisonment for staying true to the principles Hain has abandoned. Like peace campaigners elsewhere in Ireland and in the rest of the world, they took non-violent direct action. Their trial is a threat to the global anti-war movement. At a time when the clouds of war are darkening and spreading over the Middle East, the right to protest must be defended. We demand that all charges against the Raytheon Nine be dropped immediately.

Sincerely,

http://www.petitiononline.com/dawc/

by lockemup Fri Sep 08, 2006 17:27

theres a major difference between picketing Raytheon and maintaining a vigil on raytheon and thrashing an office of raytheon

The difference hopefully is a prison sentence. If everybody believed they were entitled to thrash and destroy something because they truly believed they were correct(i.e they ignore the basic code of law) and thought they could get away with it, everything would be fair game including the swp offices

by Reply Fri Sep 08, 2006 20:27

...between protest and nonviolent resistance,

by Barry - 32csm Fri Sep 08, 2006 20:41

these people are being tried in a Diplock court , the occupying power just wont tolerate uppity paddies behaving in such a fashion

by Jamie.S Sat Sep 09, 2006 02:13

So what if a few computers got trashed.
If they had set off one of the missiles then you would have something to cry about.
But they aren't terrorists they are peace protesters.
What about the children who are being killed with these WMD.
People who make bombs and missiles don't deserve to work anyway.
Close the Derry bomb factory. Let the workers get decent, ethical jobs.
Free the Raytheon 9!

by Catalyst Sat Sep 09, 2006 15:22

The problem is a society who locks up the people who care and who express dissent at mindless bloodspilling by our governments who blow people and their worlds apart with bombs and missiles and there are people who live with constant threat. We don't live where they live & we were lucky enough to be born removed from these global hot spots. Our government's cannot ignore them. Our money lines the pockets of our governments. We voted them in. Do we support them? They are OK'd to kill by our complacency - but if we dare to protest or to take direct action - (to a far lesser degree even than they) - we are on trial and face jail. It is completely backwards and defies logic and common sense. Do that many people actually support their governments going into an area and actually killing people with force and violence? Sounds like a horror movie to me. Oh dear, it's reality!

It makes sense for more and more of us to wake up to this and to get active and to begin to attempt if we have to to make the government wake up and smell the coffee it makes for its prisoners. What a world when all the crooks lock up all the good guys. Ha ha ha. So really, who is getting the last laugh here? Can we all just continue to sit back and watch and not do something? Anything?

Why does it seem that the more power you have the more you can get away with blatant in your face killing. The fact that mothers would send/watch their sons & daughters go to fight for these people, to kill the children of other mothers. Can we all agree that it is time to stop - I mean STOP THE KILLING OF PEOPLE BY OTHER PEOPLE IN THE NAME OF THEIR GOVERNMENT. Surely we are indeed more civilised and in touch with not only our own and our neighbours needs, but also the needs of the planet that we all call our home and all the creatures who also have no say. This is not good for mother earth either.

When will we all wake up? - It is great to see this action and all like it. It is so much better than inaction and complicity. If you have not got the time or energy to join them at least commend them for their efforts - their action is one sure step in the right direction.

I applaud and support all of you and hope and pray that there are more just like you. Because actions like this give me hope that there are people out there, just like me, who really care.

Thank God you are here.

by Barry - 32csm Sat Sep 09, 2006 20:51

The only reasons governemnts do what they do is due to a lack of accountability . If they felt accoountable to their citizens they wouldnt act against their wishes . Therefore in order to co-erce their citizens they ake them accountable to their draconian laws and avoid accountability thmselves . Only a minority of citizens are ever likely to take the risk of being held accountable for their actions .

by Ian Mon Sep 11, 2006 18:45

It would have been hard for them to set off a missile Jamie. Its not the kind of thing you find lying around an office.

by Raytheon Peacemakers, Tucson Tue Sep 12, 2006 04:30 nukeresister at igc dot org

We'll be out with signs Tuesday morning in support and solidarity with the Raytheon 9 at Raytheon Missile Systems' Tucson, Arizona, factory, our monthly vigil (since 1998) where many of the deadly devices with Derry software are put together.

SOLI-DERRY-TY!

by Ian Darcy Tue Sep 12, 2006 14:02

Is the software developed in Derry actually used in raytheon missiles or is this purely speculation?

by JamieS. Sat Sep 23, 2006 23:36

No Ian its a missile factory. It has been widely publicised as being so. Of course they produce missile software. Where else do you think it comes from? What kind of software do you think they produce, games or educational programmes? wise up.

by Ian Darcy Tue Oct 03, 2006 17:54

Actually Jamie if you do your research properly, instead of listening to propaganda and misinformation then you'll find its NOT a missile factory (there are enough sources of reputable information to proove this - but you could just ask people who work for the other companies in the same building as Raytheon if all else fails).
It is a software house which produces software only. They don't make components or hardware or missiles. And there is no explosives, missiles, rocket fuel, etc in there so its completely safe to protest up there in Derry and not be blown apart.