Anti-War Ireland applauds action at Derry raytheon factory

by Xemployee Wed Aug 16, 2006 16:06

No-one can deny the horror of modern day conflict and terrorism that is perpetrated across the globe. No-one denies the tragedy and suffering of innocents killed or maimed due to the same.

It seems that the violence of groups like the PLO, Hamas, and Hizbullah have gone unnoticed in McCanns' camp. Is ALL violence to be condemned or is this the politics of discrimination? Any right thinking human being will condemn violence from ALL sides of any conflict.

The recent publicity stunt at the Raytheon software offices demonstrates a kind of discrimination :- If McCann and his associates are to gain any credibility, outside of their own clique, they must not be seen to pick on one company whilst letting other known companies operate without even a mention.

Why aren't they protesting at the doors of other defence suppliers within Northern Ireland (never mind the rest of Ireland)? To name a few: Shorts (Bombardier) - Belfast, Shorts Missile Systems - Castlereagh, Maydown Precision Engineering - Derry, Invista/DuPont - Derry, Creative Composites - Lisburn, Superseal International LTD - Portadown.

Is it because the offices of a local software house is an easy target?

Better yet, Why not go to army barracks still located within Northern Ireland and confront an 'imperial killing machine' directly?

Is this a stand for real principles or is this the 'pic and mix' politics we have come to expect from the local socialist scene (DWAC, FEIC, SEA, "whatever-the-name-its-the-same-game")?
"Socialist" - but I don't hear of such groups fighting with a similar gusto for real change on local "social" issues like unemployment, anti-social behaviour, or hate crimes.

"Empty vessels make the most sound".

by MichaelY - iawm Mon Aug 14, 2006 12:34

Just read an excellent piece by Anthony McIntyre on the Derry siege. (http://lark.phoblacht.net/AM13080614g.html

As it comes from an activist who has crossed swords a number of times with Eamonn McCann and his politics, it articulates clearly the kind of positive unity that is developing in the anti-war movement nationally.

Well done Anthony.

by GH - Derry Anti War Coalition Mon Aug 14, 2006 08:39

"Commonsense" may be interested to hear that, in the course of the bail hearing for the 8 released of the Raytheon 9, it was revealed that there are 44 employees on the books of the Derry Raytheon facility. Since all the best paying jobs are kept for those coming from [and, I'm told often actually based in] its Boston HQ, the closure of the Derry plant is hardly going to lead to mass unemployment. In fact, McCann, DAWC and FEIC [the Foyle Ethicial Investment Campaign] have all pointed out that the amount of money that the taxpayer puts into Raytheon would create FAR MORE jobs for nurses, teachers etc. Precisely how many jobs could be created with the amount that goes to Raytheon is currently being pursued through FOI requests etc. Which would you prefer in your town? 100 or more nurses or 44 or fewer jobs making superprofits for the company responsible for the bomb that killed 62 people in the marketplace in Baghdad in April 2003, or a similar number of people in Qana in August 2006?

messages of support to the Raytheon 9 to resistderry@aol.com

by Aaron Aarons Mon Aug 14, 2006 02:14

I hear that Raytheon is planning to help Lebanon recover after the "war" by building a factory to make bombs to drop on Ireland.

Sounds like a Common Sense way to deal with unemployment in Lebanon, doesn't it?

by Bryan Law - Christians Against ALL Terrorism Sat Aug 12, 2006 13:08

Common sense, I'm surprised you think that a job which requires the mass murder of innocents is worth having.

Raytheon is a major arms dealer.

I once saw a poster which said "Stalin loves Children and Animals". I suppose on that basis you can say "Raytheon supports the Irish".

by Common Sense - Common Sense Fri Aug 11, 2006 11:53

Good job, think of all the Irish workers that will be unemployed when Raytheon shuts that facility down. What is McCann going to storm to find those people new jobs.

by anon Thu Aug 10, 2006 23:59

Raytheon was giving the chace to explain themselves and there ATC projects before the Derry City Council and refused the invitation. What are they hiding.
http://www.indymedia.ie/article/60155

by coaler Thu Aug 10, 2006 21:30

Raytheon operates civilian radar, well, heavens above... Mussolini was good with trains. Raytheon missiles and the damage and death they have brought, means that on balance, Raytheon products are most certainly not welcome in a civilised world.

by Josef L. Thu Aug 10, 2006 15:40

Hang on a second...

Which airport are the magic aid planes supposed to be flying into? Beirut airpot? The one with no runways or fuel tanks because of Israeli bombing, right?

by wow Thu Aug 10, 2006 12:38

Raytheon Derry systems currently keep the planes with aid flying into Beirut. Without that system no aid can fly into Beirut airport.

Well done!

by citizens Thu Aug 10, 2006 12:31

Raytheon derry does civilian projects--specifically radar and shizzle for international airports--Beirut actually amongst them, so while you have targetted the correct company, you have created distress for derry workers on civilian projects and as such i believe you will recieve your just rewards from the judge, maybe you should target the close working partners as well :

University of Ulster Magee Campus and Queen's University on research and development, recruitment and employee development

doubt it ehh...

by Eager Thu Aug 10, 2006 12:14

Great news lads. Keep up the good work. Any ideas on how we can decommission some of the troops passing through Shannon?

by Dubsky Wed Aug 09, 2006 22:27

This is wonderful news! I hope everyone is safe and well, and that as much damage as possible was made to the mass murder support infrastructure at Raytheon's Derry factory. This is excellent, excellent news!!

by ('',) - AY - pers cap. Wed Aug 09, 2006 20:44

congrats!

by anon Wed Aug 09, 2006 20:44

That over 26 billion euros of military related products have been exported to dozens of countries since 1997 exposes the sheer scale of this flourishing industry in Ireland.

Tighter controls 'will not outlaw arms traders'
http://breaking.examiner.ie/2006/08/09/story271429.html
Mr Ahern insisted Ireland had no arms trade and stressed there was no desire to promote one. e26m

Amnesty International Gives Cautious Welcome to Arms Export Control Legislation
http://www.amnesty.ie/user/content/view/full/6258/
“While we are concerned that it has taken over five years from when we first called for the Irish Government to move on this legislation, we welcome that the wheels are now beginning to turn,” said Seán Love, Executive Director, Amnesty International Irish Section.

“The quote attributed to Minister Ahern that 'Ireland does not have an arms trade' is deeply unfortunate, and quite disingenuous given the legislation he is announcing. Ireland does indeed have an arms trade, and government needs to acknowledge this fact if it is to be serious about controlling it.”

Minister Ahern outlines new legislation to tighten controls on arms exports
http://www.entemp.ie/press/2006/20060809.htm
Opening Address by Minister Michael Ahern at the Export Control Seminar
http://www.entemp.ie/press/2006/20060614b.htm

Ahern announces signing of Ministerial Order implementing the EU “Torture Regulation”
http://www.entemp.ie/press/2006/20060712.htm

Yet Laois school class manage to do it. http://www.amnesty.ie/user/content/view/full/5545/

by Shane - Human Rights for Change Wed Aug 09, 2006 17:06

Just back from the protest outside Raytheon. A good dozen or so people are still at the entrance to the industrial estate with banners and placards. Getting lots of support from the cars passing by. Police presence is quite heavy - a couple of unmarked cars sped past us on our way there. Apparently a professional negotiator has been brought in by the police and about one hour ago, a car and jeep carrying eight police with masks over their faces arrived. Looked pretty ominous. There are a few journalists and a camera man but they are being kept well back from Raytheon itself. Organisers are planning for a big gathering between 5 and 6pm this evening and have asked for the word to be spread...

by John Jefferies - AWI Cork Wed Aug 09, 2006 17:05

Excellent piece of work lads. The acorn is beginning to sprout buds all over the place!

by cathie Wed Aug 09, 2006 16:03

Well done to all involved, absolutely terrific action! let's decommission the biggest warmongers of them all!