sunday papers "william wilde edition"

by Chris Mon Jun 26, 2006 11:39

NomenCLITure, or is it part of the game?...

Sorry to be picky, about the thing , but if every single word is important
the insertion of the typo can be questioned. It could be a slip of the tongue,
freudian slip or maybe the pervasiveness of the lack of braininess of
aped male strictures endemnic in protest, media and state has infected
you too.

Please do tell-

Pardon me: I should have written 'structures'.

by isoaf Mon Jun 26, 2006 20:45

I delight in them. "NO-MEN-cliture" you're very straight for not getting that one. or- why didn't I write "willy wild" instead of "william wilde" and what exactly does "a the "noun"" mean?

Oscar Wilde's mother was very understanding of him to a point.
a critical point, WB Yeats arranged for an escape route to France the night between he losing to Carson and being charged with thodomitey.

She told him to refuse the Yeats escape -"face the english like an irish gentleman".

anyway, General Titus is still on Kildare Street.

by ignatius the indignant Tue Jun 27, 2006 00:17

moving the crystal clear analysis of contemporary and historic Ireland on a little bit from the niggling doubts as to the intended meaning of "no-men-clit-culture", I want to publically wonder this;
Why of all the characters on the stage in 1895 was it W. B. Yeats who arranged for a carriage to take Oscar Wilde out of London at top speed to a southern English port where a ship was about to set steam for France & exiled safety & his passage bought?
& Why did his mammy tell him to stay? She knew, they all knew Wilde was about to be arrested, Edward Carson had just proved Queensbury had not libeled Wilde by callign him a thomdomite (an late 19th century popular brand of suitcase), ergo Wilde was guilty of something or other & his enemies were going to bring him down.

This has nothing to do with Titus......directly

another story please!

what was really going on 111 years ago?

& I enjoy a 15 minute video-conference with Chomsky every monday afternoon, (as part of my extended junior cert repeat thesis writing project) & he doesn't remember having his tarot cards read.

by sunday papers Tue Jun 27, 2006 01:05

(Chomsky was well out of it on drugs that time so he wouldn't remember.)

W.B. Yeats was under oath to assist Oscar, as were many others, but Yeats held the managerial role for such things and thats how he got the cash together so quickly. They both were masons and also initiates of the Golden Dawn hermetic order. The events of 1895 shocked young W.B. into making his first overtures of physical love to women all over the shop. I sometimes think of 1895 as the year of the closet. By the time Wilde came out of prison, Mr Yeats was no longer honouring his fraternal bonds and though still spending time in London had at last found a "girlie" who let him go all the way. He thus lost his virginity at the age of 30 and with such a momentous change behind him he soon became a "prude". That prudery would lead to the Blythe Street riot which saw the Golden Dawn in London split, when Yeats only a few years after delighting in drawing room witicism would find enough spleen to use the phrase "moral reprobate" in reference to any bisexual act. If anything else the process of Wilde's trials and social damnation, of him in his mother's words "facing the english as an Irish gentleman" the effect on the acceptance of "bisexuality" in males has not yet been given full attention. English speaking cultures would wait till the inter-war generation for writers such as ....

I'll tell you tomorrow night how our proud queer community adopted LGBT and not BGLTvTs.

General Titus is still on Kildare Street.

by pat c Tue Jun 27, 2006 12:20

Of course there had to be asplit in occult circles. You even see such splits today. See the war between the Republican Wiccans and McGraths Monarchist Druids.

The Golden Dawn split got rather nasty. Aleister Crowley and WB Yeats fell out and were on to the cops trying to get eachother evicted from the Cabals HQ. Crowley later claimed that Yeats had (unsuccessfully) tried to use Black Magic against him.

Thats a bit like when Trots split, they cite Spells (passages from Marx, Lenin, Trotsky) against eachother.

by Ganymede - . Tue Jun 27, 2006 12:53

"Make the doors upon a woman's wit, and it will out the casement:
shut that and 'twill out the key hole: stop that, 'twill fly with the smoke
out the chimney".

As You like It :- Act Four ,Sc :one.

Or what is Rosalind?

by iosaf Sun Aug 13, 2006 04:12

...which saw the hermetic order of the golden dawn split. Pat correctly said that Yeats played in hindsight a squeeling grassie call the cops part. And both sides of hysterics and fantasists were indeed to curse each other at great length not only in the immediate weeks after but for almost two decades later by which stage the great world war of trenches had given that type something meatier to write poetry or propaganda about or in the irish contigent's case (with the sole exception of yeats) go to lefty politics and armed rebellion.
As for the use of black magic, well that has been a bit overblown. Neither side took DNA samples of the other and cloned mamalian or reptilian hybrids of their foes. Crowley's version never went further in maledictive detail than a comical description of the reception he got in the paris lodge after failing to get the "secret scrolls and phone books" out of blythe road London and past our own YB Yeats. He found a very piqued McG who as grand master had sent Crowley to get the scrolls from London, shaking black peas in a sieve and muttering in what victorian types thought was egyptian. Their split and battle simply went a stage beyond exchanging cruel letters in the fashionable press. Wilde's prison sentance had already taken its toll on µ London,s libertine circle (dressed up in egyptian stargate costumes or not) the english lodges had already seen a huge drop in attendance or interest from the scintilating list of a fw thousand men and women who had taken an interest in the whole thing (perhaps they very millenial). which is why Yeats got to play the historic officious role of splitting the GD and all as a result and accompaniment to losing his virginity. what differences a fez years could make.