Irish activist begins hunger strike in Palestine

by shalom Thu Sep 02, 2004 15:27

Whats the point? I couldn't care less if you are hungry. Nobody cares. Like Israeli Public Security Minister said the prisoners can "starve to death" for all he cares. Less prisoners for them to feed and the israelis dont even have to kill them because these stupid palestinian are doing mass suicide. Its like as stupid as 1944 jews would have bought their own train tickets to Auschwitz and turn the gas on themselves.

by Anon Thu Sep 02, 2004 15:37

I have the feeling their witness may be for the rest of us. They were forgotten.

by shalom Thu Sep 02, 2004 16:34

Let them be forgotten. These prisoners inside Israeli prisons are terrorists. They are locked up because they were plotting to kill Israeli civilians, some of them already committed brutal murders against innocent people. Remember suicide attacks against Israel school buses etc? I have no solidarity for these lowlife animals. No one should have. They should be hanged.

by TIME magazine Thu Sep 02, 2004 17:43

in a filler article of last week's edition referred to the problems both Sharon and Arafat are having with their own sides, and made brief mention of this hunger strike, and the intention of Isreali prison guards to "fire up tasty lamb chop barbeques in the prison yard".

[ I'd really appreciate if the people at TIME europe would stop sending me their magazine now. I've had six issues (freebies) which have been quite enough to see that the US reader is victim to the most horrible chauvinist prejudice].

by Nordie Thu Sep 02, 2004 17:46

another intelligent right wing pig I see, shalom. go and ask maggie t about letting political prisoners die on hunger strike and how it defeats the 'baddies'. you're just right.

by Kazz eliot Thu Sep 02, 2004 17:47

Hey shalom! You really sound like you know what your talking about, like real intelligent and all. Obviously you know more than someone who's been to Palestine or is in Palestine. Very convincing well thought out arguments.(sarcasm)

by shalom Thu Sep 02, 2004 18:12

another intelligent left wing pig I see, nordie. go and ask relatives of those murdered Israeli children how they feel about your meaningless hunger strike that will only support more terrorism against Israeli civilians. How do you people live with yourselves knowing palestinian terror groups will only use you as their propaganda tool?

by Nordie Thu Sep 02, 2004 18:33

ah well, its only really the fault of cretins like your good self and their pig-person desires to occupy and dominate that wars are going on in the first place. its only really the fault of pig-people and their eternal stupidity of mind that start these things and keep them going that leads to innocent children getting blown up on buses and took hostage. its just is. no excuses, but it just is. all the roots of these evil deeds steem from the pig-people and their hog minds. don't expect you to see that but, because I know in your hog brain the Palestinians are only doing suicide bombs because they're comic book baddies and they hate freedom and peace. alright, I know. you're right. I'm wrong. sorry. right wingers rule the world and they're the smartest and thats why the world is so peaceful. good man. keep it going lads, we're getting to the end. hopefully only a generation or so. very smart, those pig people. very smart. their grunts will soon drown the world in perfect harmony. feck it, it was shite anyway.

by Donal Fri Sep 03, 2004 00:18

Well after a few hours at the solidarity tent i received word that the prisoners had ended their hunger strike after 19 days. My Arabic is pretty poor but from what i could make out the rumour here is that 80% of the prisoners' demands have been met, a massive victory if that's true.

Reports on the web vary, some claim no negotiations have taken place, others that massive concessions have been made by the prison authorities.

(Although what i personally suspect happened is that the prisoners read "shalom"s excellent critique of their actions and saw the light. In fact i'm on my way to join the IDF right now and kill some terrorist scum, like the sixteen year old girl i just met who was shot with three dum-dum bullets and imprisoned for a year for daring to approach a checkpoint. What scum. Thank you shalom, you've shown me the error of my ways)

Whatever the case the hunger strike is over for now. So i guess i set some kind of record for shortest ever hunger strike.

by shalom Fri Sep 03, 2004 08:41

Maybe this 16 year old girl should have not try to approach the checkpoint. Think about it for a minute from Israeli soldiers view. You can never know who is carrying bomb and who is not. You cant take any risk because it is your own life on the line, i too would shoot whenever someone does not respect my authority when i say 'do not approach this checkpoint'.

16 year old girl should understand that no means no. If it is forbidden to approach the checkpoint and you do it anyway, then it is your own fault if you are being shot at.

I am happy that your hunger strike is over. What now? To McDonalds?

by Noel Fri Sep 03, 2004 17:16

Nordie,

Your defence of the IRA hunger strikers shows consistency as well as stupidity. The IRA murdered innocent men, women and children. The Palestinian terrorists murdered innocent men, women and children.

Who's next on your hero list, Chechen Terrorists?

by Badman Fri Sep 03, 2004 17:33

The two above comments reveal a lot about the mindsent of the posters.

These people seem to think that murder of 16 year old girls is justified for the crime of approaching a checkpoint. They also apply racist collective guilt to an entire people, despite the fact that they know full well that the vast majority of prisoners have not been convicted of anything and they have no evidence to suspect them of terrorism - just their racism and hatred.

It gets better though. After telling us all of their support for murdering of children, they get up on their high horses about 'terrorists'

racist, hate-filled hypocrites. It's there in black and white. I don't think that such deplorable people are doing their 'cause' too much good though.

by Noel Fri Sep 03, 2004 17:55

Badman,

Is that it? Racist? Hypocrite?
I thought Fascist would be more in keeping with your witless post.

And why is terrorist in inverted commas?
These murderers have just killed innocent children. Killed them. Deliberately.
Where's the ambiguity which your ridiculous inverted commas imply?

by Badman Fri Sep 03, 2004 18:42

When you write something that unambiguously reveals you to be a fascist, I'll call you one. So far you've only openly declared your racism and hypocrisy, so you'll have to be content with that for the moment.

The terrorist is in inverted comments from the title of the post above my last one. "The only good terrorist is a hungry..." I put it in inverted commas as you have no evidence that proves the hunger strikers are indeed terrorists - just your racist hatred. Your not suggesting that the Palestinian prisoners are practicins some sort of quantum bi-location and simulatenously occupying a school in Chechnya, are you? Oh, sorry I forgot, everybody that you hate is responsible for everything that anybody you hate does .

by Noel Fri Sep 03, 2004 18:59

Racism?
Palestinian terrorists murder innocent people. Fact.
Not all Palestinians. Just the terrorists amongst them.
Is it racist to state this?

Hypocrisy?
That one has escaped me? Where's the hypocrisy in linking one group of Islamist child killing terrorists with another?

by Nordie Fri Sep 03, 2004 19:46

Na, Noel, stupidity is supporting British occupation and Russian empires and Zionist Nazism and then complaining when the oppressed people become murderers themselves. Anyone who supports domination of a people but claims to be outraged by the slaughter we witness (although never outraged by state slaughter. Feck, if the Jews had have rose on their own against the Nazis and without the rest of the world being at war with Germany at the time, half you sheep would have sided with Hitler) as a direct consequence of this murderous domination is a deep down liar. The human disgrace has been around long enough and has done enough to see that murderous bullies breed murderous victims, so anyone who supports state terror must know, way, way down inside, that terrorism, rebellion, legitimate armed resistance, call it what you will as the end result is all the same, is just simply gonna happen. It's a blood lust. People love it. Anyone who supports Russia and its war in Checyhna, which by some accounts has killed about a quarter of the population and displaced half, loves to see scenes like today. Then they like to pretend that they're the goodies and are shocked by violence (again, except when its state violence like the Russian razing of Grozny which snuffed out 60,000 lives) and call for even more oppression and occupation so that more and more scenes like today can be seen stretching on into infinity.

by Donal Fri Sep 03, 2004 23:34

She's sixteen now. which means she was 14/15 when the incident happened over a year ago.

She approached the checkpoint because the soldiers were shouting at her in Hebrew. She couldn't understand them. She approached them, they shot her, then blocked an ambulance from reaching her for over half an hour.

How is it clear that checkpoints shouldn't be approached? The entire purpose of checkpoints is that people have to pass through them, you idiot.

Anyway, that was only one example. how about the nine month old baby whose been in prison since he was born. His mother's crime? being the sister of someone involved in resistance.

I just saw the army drive through here in APCs shooting at children. Maybe those children were Hamas leaders, but somehow i doubt it.

The israelis have no authority here. They are a foreign army engaged in numerous violations of international law.

They employ the unlawful use of violence to spread fear among the population in order to advance their political/ideological cause. That is the definition of terrorism.

You obviously don't have a clue what you're talking about

by niall - galway grassroots Tue Sep 07, 2004 22:49

Just a note to say keep up the good work donal. Without heads like yourself doing this type of work it'd surely be even worse for the Palestinian people.

Though i am concerned with your obvious lack of morals in associating with 16 year terrorist girls. Do you not realise that they are all evil bloodthirsty dark-skinned demons?

Approaching a checkpoint, how dare she !?! I'm glad there are some sensible people around here who side with child-shooters instantly.

Looking forward to having you back with some of that good sense of ruckus that has surely been instilled in ya by now.

insha allah
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by Seph Wed Sep 08, 2004 13:11

Yawn. Another blatant attention seeking stunt. Hope he enjoys the sunshine anyway.

by niall - galway grassroots Wed Sep 08, 2004 23:06

Yeah Seph, right on.

Comments like yours carry little weight until you've shown you have the cojones to go on a hunger strike (without prior knowledge of how long it will last), or to venture into an environment like Palestine.

Until then....yaawwwwwwnnn