Bush and Blair nominated for Nobel Peace prize.

by qwerty Mon Feb 02, 2004 15:04

What about John Hume?! He's a sectarian as well

by John Meehan Mon Feb 02, 2004 15:01

No, this is not a fairy tale

Read Tariq Ali's account of the Nobel Peace Prize, and the rogue's gallery of winners and losers.

Who was the worst choice ever for the Nobel Peace Prize?

David Trimble, right wing attacker of human rights organisations, hs no chance of winning this race.

He cannot compete with Henry Kissinger, Jimmy Carter or Menachem Begin.

Mary Kelly should be nominated for this year's prize


http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,855502,00.html

by kokomero Mon Feb 02, 2004 12:29

On a similar note hearing Tom Cooney ranting on Carol Colemans program on Newstalk 106 yesterday morning just typifies the thinking (or the lack of it) of these people.

It is positively scary that people like this are allowed the opportunity to form the minds of the legal profession in Ireland. No wonder we end up at the end of a such a process with whitewash artists!

Their logic is often flawed or absent, they have selective memories when it comes to their previous statements ex. where are the WMD when they supported war on the basis of their existence.

Their main tactic (Harris, Cooney, Waters, Myers etc.) seems to consist of facist suppression (ironic when they accuse republicans of facism!?) of all other possible points-of-view by shouting down all other contributors and often the hosts of any forum they are given. At least if they were capable of rational debate it would be something.

I witnessed a similar descent (to what is happening on Irish media) into an oblivion of mediocrity of the Italian media while living there in the early 1990s, particularly with people like Antonio Sgarbi who were much beloved of the media because of their outrageous views rather than actual content.

It has given rise to the phenomenon of so called TV-spazzatura (literally rubbish TV) in Italy!

A sign of things to come??

by Feb15 Mon Feb 02, 2004 12:27

ETA are terrorists. They use terrorsit tactics that target ordianary Spanish workers and holidaymakers. If Basque independence is to be achieved it must be through allying themselves to the spanish workers not killing them and allowing the spanish state use the terrorist methods of ETA as an excuse to clamp down on the Basque nationailist movement.

As for Tibetan nuns. No way. I want genuine self determination for the people of Tibet, both Tibettan and Han. If the Buddhists take over Tibet it will mean a religious state, persecution of the Han minority and a decline in living standards.

I think if a peace award is to be made it should be awarded to the millions of people who took to the streets on Feb 15 last year.

by iosaf Mon Feb 02, 2004 12:17

my first nomination of 2004 for Nobel Peace: Josep LLuis Carod Rovira, who during his 32 day term as a minister in government met with ETA to suggest a ceasefire and promote dialogue and peace.
http://www.campanyes.org/PREMI_NOBEL
I'd like to support a tibetan nun next- especially one who is involved in any sexual harrasment case. appreciate any suggestions/ links to signature support sites.

by jeff Mon Feb 02, 2004 12:10

Right wing (monetrist) thought is all the rage these days. I'm in uni in Holland at the moment.

Some lunatic professor who is doing rational choice theory (ie; gobbledegtook, if you listen only to this guy) tells us that perhaps " the end of liberal democracy could be near, this is what rational choice theorists are figuring out,they have found it is not rational, babble babble..", and then he goes on all coherent, well, as coherent as Eoghan Harris on acid with his head stuck under six feet of muck.

Yep, it is all the rage. Those in power are loving it and are begining to lose all sense of reason, especially since Sep 11. The lunatics have taken over the asylem, so we have to figure out how to bypass this madness.

by Jonah Mon Feb 02, 2004 12:08

Just a quick note here, this isn't a big deal. To be nominated for a Nobel Prize all you need is a nomination in writing from a member of a national parliament or Government, a univesity rector, a professor of history, philosophy, law and theology or a former award recipient.

In short, Michael Lowry could nominate someone for the Nobel Peace Prize. Getting a nomination is nothing.

http://www.nobel.se/peace/nomination/nominators.html

by twa Mon Feb 02, 2004 11:41

Is this for real??!! It's not April 1st?

Actually it doesn't surprise me at all really. The nobel peace prize has goen to some of politicians that were directly and indirectly responsible for murder war and death. Kissinger, Hume, Trimble....

by David Mon Feb 02, 2004 11:06

Somebody should have nominated Eoin Rice, Fintan lane and the pitstop plowshares movement for a joint award

by kokomero Mon Feb 02, 2004 10:01

like David Trimble who seems to have a callous disregard for human rights it seems that the qualifications for eligibility for this prize are at odds with the intent of the award itself. N'est pas?

Hardly surprising really as Nobel was the inventor of dynamite and was probably trying to make amends for the havoc wreaked by his invention.