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What is the Irish Secret Service?

category national | rights, freedoms and repression | news report author Tuesday December 02, 2003 11:59author by Jonah Report this post to the editors

The Irish Secret Service. What is it? I didn't know either, so I did somoe investigation. I still don't know, but I am even more curious.

Those of us nursing greivances about the Government's lack of money for luxuries like child benefit, rent allowance and so on can take inspiration from the mysterious boys and girls in the Irish Secret Service who took an 8% cut in funding this year.

Little known, and nowhere near as well known as our friends in the Special Branch, the Secret Service received a budget of 767,000 Euros for 2004, down from 831,000 Euros last year.

But what is the Secret Service? Where is it? What does it do? Who's in it? All good questions, and all questions put to various Ministers by Sinn Féin TD Aengus O Snodaigh, understandably curious about where this money was going.

Turns out, there is NO Irish Secret Service in this jurisdiction, at least as far as Minister McDowell is concerned and one reckons he should know. The money allocated to the Secret Service is in fact money allocated to a fund administered by the Department of Finance which allocates it on request to various Government departments.

Clear it all up for you? No, me neither. A little more digging finds another question, this time to the Minister for Finance, about the administration of the scheme from comrade O Snodaigh, who seems to have got a bee in his bonnet on this one. The purpose of the Secret Service Fund is "to obtain information which is necessary for the security of the country".

Nothing like a clear and specific focussed definition to ensure there is no grey area. Only information necessary for the security of the country.

So would this include money allocated to the Department of Transport perhaps? To find out who's picketing airports as part of anti-war protests?

Who can tell, for the Government refuses to divulge further information saying "Given the sensitivities associated with a (fund) of this nature, it is not possible to provide information on the persons who administer it.

As regards accounts, details will not be published, for the same reason."

So, we're not sure what the money is spent on, who spends it, who administers it or what it's used for. Nervous? So was I, but then relief emerged when the Government stated that the fund was audtied by the Comptroller and Auditor General. (C & AG)

"The C & AG is furnished with certificates from the responsible Ministers which support the expenditure shown in the account."

Well, if the C & AG is looking after it, the people of Ireland can sleep easily in their beds knowing a scheme operated for the security of the state without any oversight worth talking about is in fact, audited.

(Details about the Irish Secret Service and notes for this piece can be found in the published Estimates for 2003 and for 2004 and also through parliamentary questions put to the Ministers of Finance and Justice, Equality and Law Reform by Deputy Aengus O Snodaigh)

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 #   Title   Author   Date 
 1   Wondered about that myself...     Irish SS    Tue Dec 02, 2003 12:30 
 2   Know nothing     Hush Puppy    Tue Dec 02, 2003 12:37 
 3   Can we expect big budget movies with special effects?     culture vulture    Tue Dec 02, 2003 13:16 
 4   Closest thing     lone gunman    Tue Dec 02, 2003 13:23 
 5   RE Irish Secret Service     Vic    Tue Dec 02, 2003 13:48 
 6   They say its a secret, that's why its secret     Eoin Dubsky    Tue Dec 02, 2003 14:13 
 7   Ask Judge Barron     a guy called satan    Tue Dec 02, 2003 14:42 
 8   G2     Janus    Tue Dec 02, 2003 15:06 
 9   So is the "secret service" budget for G2 and branch?     Eoin Dubsky    Tue Dec 02, 2003 15:21 
 10   Interesting but not so surprising ....     inspector clouseau    Tue Dec 02, 2003 20:40 
 11   A comparative survey ...     inspector clouseau    Tue Dec 02, 2003 20:54 
 12   The link is down     lone gunman    Tue Dec 02, 2003 21:24 
 13   FYI on Irish Intelligence Agencies     techn9ne    Wed Dec 03, 2003 00:07 
 14   "All the Kings men"     JMcK    Wed Dec 03, 2003 10:16 
 15   As far as I recall     Glen    Wed Dec 03, 2003 13:20 
 16   Calm down James     lone gunman    Wed Dec 03, 2003 15:50 
 17   Links to more relevant info     Douglas P Gunne    Thu Dec 04, 2003 10:07 
 18   Activities     avi H.    Thu Dec 04, 2003 15:58 
 19   Good stuff .....     rogue element    Thu Dec 04, 2003 19:40 
 20   Spooks ? What spooks?     jabotinsky    Thu Dec 04, 2003 19:58 
 21   Muslim surrveilance?     jeff    Fri Dec 05, 2003 15:37 
 22   Secret service in bin tax campaign     copwatch    Fri Dec 05, 2003 16:18 
 23   As to the above...     jeff    Sat Dec 06, 2003 14:47 
 24   Brainwashed ...     david icke    Sat Dec 06, 2003 20:11 
 25   Where the money proberly goes to     the_syco    Wed Mar 31, 2004 17:56 
 26   Irish Secret Service     Cabhog    Wed Mar 31, 2004 21:50 
 27   Another Irish Taboo!!     Sean Barry    Mon Apr 25, 2005 23:31 
 28   think about it     jsr    Tue Apr 26, 2005 00:32 
 29   castlereagh redux     sgt-tommy    Wed Apr 27, 2005 00:21 
 30   Crazy     Al    Thu Apr 28, 2005 01:48 
 31   Irish Secret Service     Deller    Tue Sep 27, 2005 01:57 
 32   "the people have a right to know"     moriarty    Tue Sep 27, 2005 02:22 
 33   Gee Whizz     Devil Dog    Tue Sep 27, 2005 11:03 
 34   Inspiration from a genius     Al    Tue Sep 27, 2005 14:38 
 35   We're not getting very far are we?     plop plop    Tue Sep 27, 2005 14:44 
 36   dear Al re : "inspiration from a genius" your comment under moriarty's last.     plop plop plop    Tue Sep 27, 2005 14:53 
 37   Oh deary me.     Al    Tue Sep 27, 2005 15:06 
 38   Ploppitty Plop Plop     Devil Dog    Tue Sep 27, 2005 15:10 
 39   If it is untrue     plop plop plop squelch    Tue Sep 27, 2005 15:16 
 40   Its an open page.     Al    Tue Sep 27, 2005 17:06 
 41   Ok Garda Al. you really pissing me off now.     yawn yawn yawn plop plop plop itch squelch    Tue Sep 27, 2005 22:25 
 42   REally?     Al    Tue Sep 27, 2005 23:24 
 43   Where's Shergar Garda? & why is Veronica Guerin not alive?     yawn yawn yawn    Tue Sep 27, 2005 23:34 
 44   Oh I can see so clearly now.     Al    Wed Sep 28, 2005 00:00 
 45   Sorry readers, the "cop" has made be go through the "accountability & transparency" thing yet again.     yawn yawn yawn plop plop plop itch squelch    Wed Sep 28, 2005 01:23 
 46   Accountability and Transparency     rooster    Wed Sep 28, 2005 17:38 
 47   G-2?     ex soldier    Wed Sep 28, 2005 20:14 
 48   and more     ex soldier    Wed Sep 28, 2005 20:40 
 49   now we're getting somewhere, the sensible newswire article beckons.....     moriarty    Thu Sep 29, 2005 00:32 
 50   thank you for that cue Moriarty old bean you're very smart you are.     duckula    Thu Sep 29, 2005 01:47 
 51   Really successful = bombs on the underground!     rooster    Thu Sep 29, 2005 11:11 
 52   pick you up on a point Rooster.     the wicked watson    Thu Sep 29, 2005 13:07 
 53   How far?     Al    Thu Sep 29, 2005 22:26 
 54   cop on!     not al    Thu Sep 29, 2005 22:38 
 55   your loyalty to your force is touching.     yawn yawn yawn yawn yawn yawn    Fri Sep 30, 2005 00:47 
 56   just ignore facts.     Al    Fri Sep 30, 2005 18:16 
 57   sorry Al no more space or willingness to chat with you.     moriarty yawn shergar yawn subversives yawn paid informers    Fri Sep 30, 2005 19:35 
 58   No problem     Al    Fri Sep 30, 2005 19:59 
 59   Black Branch Man - the voodoo that you do ,     Barry    Fri Sep 30, 2005 20:18 
 60   Heres some clarity on Special Branch expenditure from some years ago     Barry    Fri Sep 30, 2005 20:52 
 61   Garda incompetence     Joe Reid    Sat Oct 01, 2005 15:53 
 62   Garda incompetence (additional information)     Joe Reid    Sat Oct 01, 2005 16:03 
 63   Revenge Killing?     Joe Reid    Sat Oct 01, 2005 17:31 
 64   if Mary Reid was murdered,who killed her?     rooster    Sat Oct 01, 2005 20:04 
 65   Efficient     Al    Thu Oct 13, 2005 15:34 
 66   Crazy     Damien    Thu Oct 13, 2005 16:35 
 67   Al! old bean can't keep you off your threads now can we?     gurggle    Thu Oct 13, 2005 22:06 
 68   Billions?     Al    Fri Oct 14, 2005 00:34 
 69   ??     Damien    Fri Oct 14, 2005 13:55 
 70   help me out here.     !!    Fri Oct 14, 2005 14:06 
 71   don't see too many people on this site demanding to know......     rooster    Sun Oct 16, 2005 03:17 
 72   Secret Service is paid for by all of us - involuntarily     Anthony    Sun Oct 16, 2005 19:26 
 73   This thread     I wonder sometimes    Mon Jan 02, 2006 23:10 
 74   truth     i.s.s.a top    Tue Mar 21, 2006 13:59 
 75   Thankyou to the security services     Liam    Fri Sep 22, 2006 02:01 
 76   the real secret service     knight_eo    Mon Jan 01, 2007 22:40 
 77   Is Ireland too small to have an effective C-3, or G-2?     24601    Tue Jul 17, 2012 12:34 
 78   l.ooking in the wrong spot     Really    Tue Jul 17, 2012 12:59 
 79   bless yer innocence, Liam..     opus diablos    Tue Jul 17, 2012 13:47 
 80   Is it REALLY, or Oh, REALLY?     24601    Sat Jul 21, 2012 13:16 
 81   Good Manners     24601    Wed Aug 01, 2012 09:30 
 82   Just hope that friendly intelligence checks for unfriendlies before, during and after each project.     24601    Thu Aug 16, 2012 09:14 
 83   speaking, metaphorically..     opus diablos    Thu Aug 16, 2012 12:28 
 84   It's the Irish sacred service     Pharoh    Sun Dec 30, 2012 04:17 


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