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Be Jeepers : GR Ireland predict 20,000 - 30,000 to protest EU Presidency in Dublin

category national | anti-capitalism | news report author Sunday September 21, 2003 16:50author by ec Report this post to the editors

Reposting this link here as not everyone reads the Observer and this is a very interesting and very relevant story to users of IMC IRL

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,1046653,00.html

'Ireland will never have seen anything on the scale of this,' said spokesman Garrett Mullan. 'We have ample time to prepare and we're confident of mobilising between 20,000 and 30,000 to protest. Ireland is cheap to get to and the air and ferry links with the rest of Europe are good. We plan to make a big statement.'

Related Link: http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,1046653,00.html
author by srpublication date Sun Sep 21, 2003 18:24author address author phone Report this post to the editors

They have started the "violent protesters" scare already, and Patricia McKenna is foremost in promoting that scare.

"Green MEP Patricia McKenna yesterday expressed fears that the Gardai would not be able to cope if the protests turned violent."

And, referring to the garda riot at the Reclaim the Streets' May Day protest, Patricia McKenna's main concern: 'I just fear that the whole scale of the event will be too much for the Gardai to handle.'

author by dunk - FUSPEYpublication date Sun Sep 21, 2003 19:56author email 02092997 at brookes dot ac dot ukauthor address author phone Report this post to the editors

can short summarys be posted from different groups who will participate in these "anti globalisation/ capitalist" protests stating
-their reasons for protest
-what and who exactly they are protesting against
-what they propose as an alternative
-what other things are they doing to combat those issues they are opposed to

i ask this as there are many people who are new to this area and just starting to deal with the issues of "globalisatiobn"
helpful links also appreciated
thaks
dunk

Related Link: http://easa.antville.org/stories/508330/#517051
author by fpublication date Sun Sep 21, 2003 22:06author address author phone Report this post to the editors

At a recent business lunch in Dublin hosted by the American Chamber of Commerce Ireland, BP Chairman and World Trade Organisation (WTO) guru, Peter Sutherland was guest speaker.

"Next year during Irelands EU presidency we must ensure that a common defence policy is reached and Ireland accepts its responsibility as a global player."

Thats Peter at work lobbying the lobbyists (ACCI and the assembled guests) to lobby the Irish govt.

So I presume its going to be on the menu.

Elsewhere, Forfas the industry development advisory group to the Minister of Enterprise, Trade & Employment says

Within our membership of the EU, Ireland should support the widespread application of the WTO trade disciplines as defined by GATS (General Agreement on Trade in SERVICES), to trade in audio-visual SERVICES, computer software SERVICES and transport SERVICES.

Anyways check out

http://www.forfas.ie/publications/0302_forfas_WTO_72dpi_s.pdf

author by Moipublication date Mon Sep 22, 2003 01:37author address author phone Report this post to the editors

'Ireland will never have seen anything on the scale of this,'

30 or 40 thousand?
Really? Didn't we have about 3 or 4 times that number last February 15th?

Still, it's something to look forward to.

author by Moipublication date Mon Sep 22, 2003 01:45author address author phone Report this post to the editors

I should have looked at it properly. The report said 20 to 30 thousand, so in fact we had 4 or 5 times as many back in Feb.

Still, Y'all come.

author by dunk - FUSPEYpublication date Mon Sep 22, 2003 13:37author address author phone Report this post to the editors

if the beatings dished out onn rts mayday 2002 was preparation for this event. it seems today could be last chance for them for practice beatings on more innocent peaceful individuals?

see you at 5 @ the spike

author by Badmanpublication date Mon Sep 22, 2003 14:12author address author phone Report this post to the editors

The journo obviously did no research. He claimed that GR organised Genoa and Gothenburg!!!

I'd take the 20,000 - 30,000 with a kingsize pinch of salt. It was a figure produced off the top of Joe C.'s head. Considering that they had 20 - 30 people on their last march, I think it is very much wishful thinking.

author by ppublication date Mon Sep 22, 2003 22:24author address author phone Report this post to the editors

hi from scotland.
okay, gr can be taken with a pinch of salt for now, but this sounds like a gret excuse to visit dublin again to me...

author by Indymedia Kevinpublication date Tue Sep 23, 2003 12:52author address author phone Report this post to the editors

There were 44 people on the Globalise Resistance march from the Central Bank to the Coca-Cola headquarters on Baggot Street. I had photos but deleted them accidentally off the camera. I counted the crowd 4 times just to be sure.

author by Kevpublication date Tue Sep 23, 2003 19:20author address author phone Report this post to the editors

what did you expect them to say? "well I think we'll have just the usual suspects; the swp...ah i mean GR, the SP, GP, anarchists and random punters"

Its a propaganda battle.

As for "ireland never seeing anything like this before" - while i agree that feb 15 saw many times that on the streets, that was an anti-war protest. If, if, IF 20,000 people march against the EU (who largely 'opposed' the war) then that will be hugley significant - especially if most of those are Irish.

I agree that the journo did fuck all research and it was a dreadful article. Still, at least it made the paper.

There was a much worse article by that twat Henry McDonald about how the far-left (who he refers to as the Marxist-Leninsts - MLs) 'hijacked genuine concerns'. I have never read such trash in my life. He also, falsely, claims that the MLs want an end to Israel. While this may be the case with the SWP, the SP certainly do not believe this. Obvioulsy the research dept at the Observer is vastly underfunded.

Also he calls Anti-Imperialism simple 'anti-americanism'.

This is his worst article yet. I used to think the observer was 'decent' enough paper (as far as establishment papers go), but having read Will Huttons book, and most recently his editorial that concluded "partnership is the way forward for the unions" I don't think I'll be buying it again.

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