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The American people have a right to know who is pushing for this war

category national | miscellaneous | news report author Tuesday March 18, 2003 07:55author by joe ranii Report this post to the editors

American conservative commentator and former presidential candidate Pat Buchanan warns of the assault on free speech by the Israel lobby. In his words: "The American people have a right to know who is pushing for this war and what their motives may be".


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The poisoning of American politics


"Moran Said Jews Are Pushing War," ran the headline on page one. "Apology denies Anti-Semitism" ran the subhead on the story.

Even a glance at that Washington Post, and one knew Jim Moran, bad boy Irish congressman from Alexandria – who has had more than his share of brawls, personal and political – had stepped into it, big time. But while the headline was stark, what Moran said and the context in which he said it, seem far less inflammatory.

Apparently, at an antiwar gathering of 120 folks at St. Anne's Episcopal Church on March 3, a woman arose, identified herself as Jewish, and noted that while Christian churches opposed to war on Iraq were represented there, her own faith was not. Why?

Moran picked up on that and responded, "If it were not for the strong support of the Jewish community for this war with Iraq, we would not be doing this."

Now about this comment, it is, first, wrong. We are going to war because Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice and Powell are convinced we must disarm Baghdad – and regime change is the only way to effect it. Second, according to polls, the Jewish community is only about as hawkish as the rest of the nation, with 59 percent supporting war.

Moran says he answered as he did because the lady identified herself as Jewish. Indeed, he went on to say to her, "The leaders of the Jewish community are influential enough that they could change the direction of where this is going, and I think they should."

Rather than pour oil on troubled waters, the Post editorial headline screamed, "Blaming the Jews."

"Mr. Moran's comment will be used to concentrate the poison of anti-Semitism in many parts of the world where it remains virulent and dangerous."

Oh, come off it. What Moran said was wrong and insensitive – and he has apologized repeatedly – but from reading the Post, one would think he was over at St. Anne's passing out the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" and recruiting for the Black Hundreds.

Six Democratic colleagues, all Jewish, have urged his defeat. Six rabbis called for his resignation. Rabbi Jack Moline of Alexandria accused Moran of echoing "the most scandalous rhetoric of the last century."

"Such remarks about any minority group in America," roared Moline, "whether African-Americans, Hispanics, Muslims or others, are beyond inappropriate in the rhetoric of a member of Congress."

But hold on. Would it really be outrageous to say that were it not for the Cuban community in Miami, America would be easing the embargo on Cuba? Would it really be anti-Christian to say that were it not for the Christian Right, the GOP would have abandoned its pro-life and anti-cloning positions?

Is it really outrageous, reprehensible and anti-Semitic to say that were it not for the power and influence of the Israeli lobby and Jewish community, Israel would never have gotten $100 billion in foreign aid in the last three decades?

The United States is about to launch a pre-emptive war on a nation that has not attacked us, in accord with a "doctrine" this president never declared while campaigning. This war may lead to what its crazed enthusiasts are calling "World War IV," the "war on militant Islam."

The American people have a right to know, before we are dragged into an Armageddon against Islam, who is pushing for this war and what their motives, open or hidden, may be. And it is not Jim Moran who is trying to stifle that debate. It is a power elite who use smears like "anti-Semite" to censor and blacklist anyone who stumbles too close to the truths they seek to conceal.


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author by Mikepublication date Tue Mar 18, 2003 15:28author email stepbystepfarm at shaysnet dot comauthor address author phone Report this post to the editors

It depends on whether that statement matches the facts. Just because Moran SAID the American Jewish community supports the war with Iraq doesn't make that so. And claiming that the leaders of the American Jewish had some responsibility to use their influence against the war (to expend the "political "capital" for this purpose) is another.

#1 -- as a community, the American Jews are LESS pro war with Iraq than the general US population. Those who don't believe this simply let their ideological blinders keep them from seeing the poll results.

#2 -- the American Jewish community NEVER uses its influence for anything but their own issues. It is precisely for this reason that they "control" the issue of US policy toward the Israel-Palestine issue. That's how the US political system works. IF a minority interest group is "concentrated" around just one or two demands it can usually get its way with those provided it DOESN'T interfere with any other interests and isn't directly opposed by another concentrated interest. The American system doesn't work "by poll" (what the majority SLIGHTLY wants) but instead is heavily weighted by how badly a minority interest wants something (and whether they will cooperate on everything else in exchange for this one thing and nothing else).

STOP! This is NOT a "Jew thing". Look at any other concentrated interest group. The "gun folks" are also a small minoroty but they get their way (no serious gun control) because that's all they care about -- if a politicain is wrong on their issue he or she can't buy their vote back by compensating them on some other issue because guns is all they care about as a group.

 
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