Colleges hit election mode - will the Left for once be organised?

by ... Thu Jan 23, 2003 14:06

Yeah - they'll be electing the Environmental Officer for USI at the environmental conference in Dublin on Feb 15/16. anyone at all interested in going for this? We could get a bit of support I'm sure....

by Trotwatch Thu Jan 23, 2003 18:34

All for left unity but too often those who claim to be for it are out for hegemony themselves. Take the SP/SY, every other group on the left is 'inferior' to them. They try to take over campaigns by any means. They also destroy them.

In UCD they turn people off SU activities with their childish stunts and are always out to gut the rest of the left.

Their latest is to oppose attempts to revive the annual Kevin Barry march, this used to be organised by UCD SU. The SY say it is sectarian. Not only do they oppose it but they say wont allow UCD SU to have anything to do with it.

This will help FF no end.

They have no idea if what democracy is.

by OK - SP Thu Jan 23, 2003 22:23

where and when did SY in UCD come out against that annual march? It's just another lie and slur from some anonymous figure.

When have SP member in UCD ruined campaigns? We have built up the CFE along with other genuine activists. To deny this is simply wrong. We never attempted to 'take over' any campaign in ucd. I think that some people may confuse arguing a certain point as 'taking over' a campaign!

The childish thing is to make anonymous attacks and make up blatent lies.

by non-trot trotwatch-watcher - not much Thu Jan 23, 2003 22:49

mr (or missus) trotwatch - ivre been observing ur postings here for a while now, and im sure no one is impressed by ur petty sectarian rants at the sp and swp. cop yerself on would ye? or preferably do us all a favour and fuck off from indymedia... just an idea y'know.

by The Silver Surfer Fri Jan 24, 2003 11:44

'It's just another lie and slur from some anonymous figure.'

Would OK please use his/her real name?

Can we take it then that the Socialist Party support the Kevin Barry march?

ps Trotwatch may well be a stirrer but a clear answer would help.

by Bob de Builder - Builderbergs Fri Jan 24, 2003 14:22

- We have built up the CFE along with other genuine activists.

Which 'other genuine activists' did you build?

by Finghin - Socialist Youth UCD Fri Jan 24, 2003 15:52

OK is Oisín Kelly there is no secret about that.

The other genuine activists are people in Socialist Alternative, some members of the Labour Party, SWP, and many more independents.

The first I heard of a 'Kevin Barry March' was yesterday when I read it here. Its simply not happening, everyone I've talked today said they never heard of such a march either. Its not an issue in UCD.

by Trotwatch Fri Jan 24, 2003 18:26

I feared you had taken a vow of silence. If you have your way then there definitely will be no Kevin Barry memorial march.

Just answer the question. Will you support a revival of the Kevin Barry march as a UCDSU event? Or do you see it as being sectarian?

by hunter - pfln Fri Jan 24, 2003 22:27 wherever i lay my hat

wouldnt be opposed to a kevin barry march meself - except isnt the FF youth out in UCD called the Kevin Barry Cumann? dunno if i'd agree with marching with them but anyhow, if the any of the socialist or anarchist groups oppose it, then i suppose thats their perogative isnt it? but if its a march that no-longer has any relevance, why bother reviving it? would an auld anti-fees march or anti-war march not be more important and inline with current feelings?

and trotwatch, given that u call urself after an old left-bashing anarcho paper would you partake in such a march? what happened to "no gods, no masters, no idols, no state?" i wonder. or maybe u are just a shit stirrer, a memeber of the labour party perhaps? or were u dumped by a socialist and feel the need to take it out all lefties?

by student Sun Jan 26, 2003 19:59

"...or will infighting on the left let in more hacks?"

But isn't there such a thing as 'left wing' hacks? Surely they should be kept out aswell!