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Jump To Comment: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19chopped off my little piggiy fingers. oh what a nice man you are dessie, and what a fantastic marxist! so he gave two fingers to the bosses eh? were these the missing fingers from his victims? but seriously under the terms of GFA he does merit relase.
too crazy for the inla (yep, too crazy for the inla => so they kicked him out
too crazy for the irsp (yep again!) => so they kicked him out
dessie started slicing, dessie went down
northern peace talks begin => early release for loonies guaranteed!
dessie and inla/irsp?
yes dessie want out!
inla/irsp to the rescue...
do you see the truth?
Editor - where are you?
These are extremely distasteful comments, especially the one purporting to come from John O'Grady. We are talking about a real victim of crime here. O'Hares crime is still fairly recent and I am sure it still haunts the mind of Mr O'Grady each day. These immature and sick comments should be removed. They are not humourous.
O'Hare is in my opinion a very dangerous individual who probably has not learnt anything in prison. He should not be relased yet. Apart from the awful act he committed on Mr O'Grady his gang shot a Garda in the stomach and almost killed him. The Guard later left the Force as he just could not do his job afterwards. Garda killers, and those who attempt to kill used to get 40 year in prison. That is how long he deserves, not a mere 15 years.
is this supposed to be a serious, adult independent media website or a spot for heartless infantile glorification of violence? would the above writers espouse those same comments if a loyalist had commited such a crime? or a facist? i was just reading about the downward spiral indymedia is on (how ironic these two reports are on the site the same day) and it seems that reporter is right. any moron can get on here and air their crass "humour".
"O'Hare is in my opinion a very dangerous individual who probably has not learnt anything in prison. "
Dessie has spent 15 yrs in prison, more time than most serve for murder. He is a qualifying prisoner under the GFA.
He has also been examined by 4 different psychiatrists; all of whom judge him to be sane,
and not a danger to the community. Now how may of us have certificates of sanity from 4 different shrinks?
Kitty is correct; if a loyalist had cut off someones fingers, then you wouldn't get jokes about it on indy. At least I hope not. Shankill Butchers jokes are even less funny.
Dessie O Hare is reformed character having spent over 20 years in prison, not for murder but for kidnapping and cutting off of a greedy selfish rich dentists fingers. Dessie deserves to be released under the terms of the Good Friday agreement, as an INLA prisoner. the INLA have been on ceasefire since 1995 unlike murdering LVF scumbags.
Dessie took a Trapist monks vow of silence whilst in prison and also meditates. Dessie deserves to be released and god willing will be released soon. Dessie is not a monster, but a product of the an era, that era being turbulent 1970's northern ireland. That era has past, and we all embrace a new era, the era of peace even though the LVF and johnny adair are still engaged in terrorist activities.
not I. well maybe I could have before getting involved with indymedia...but it's too late now ;-)
O'Hare = Vermin. He's worse than any rat. I hope he rots.
I dont think that he should be released. I agree that most republican and loyalist prisoners are politically motivated and they should be released. However O'Hare is brutish and political motivation cannot explain for his actions.
I think that each should be judged on his actions. Where a prisoner is an unreformed sectarian bigot he shouldn't be let out. Where a prisoner was particularly brutal and sick they should not be released.
I think that the death penalty should be used for the likes of O'Hare to punish his barbarity.
How can you legitimise the actions of O'Hare? Do AFA know about your support for the likes of O'Hare and his methods? Is it official AFA policy to cut off fingers of people, just because they're rich!
What about LAN? did they cut off the fingers of people that were active in the Yes side of the Nice campaign? LAN (which you were active in) should answer this.
Pat C you are a hell of an odd-ball, you call yourself left wing!! ha ha
"How can you legitimise the actions of O'Hare? Do AFA know about your support for the likes of O'Hare and his methods? Is it official AFA policy to cut off fingers of people, just because they're rich!"
AFA is a single issue campaign. you really are showing yourself to be a cretin.
"What about LAN? did they cut off the fingers of people that were active in the Yes side of the Nice campaign? LAN (which you were active in) should answer this.
"
what did you do in the referendum campaign? (you can take that as a rhetorical question)
"Pat C you are a hell of an odd-ball, you call yourself left wing!! ha ha"
i have proved my socialist principles many times over.
you are a sick & sad individual who in your guise of "irsp hater" have stated that you believe people should be tortured to death by the state.
i hpe you get the professional help you desire. i doubt if even a drunken psychiatrist would certify you as being sane.
"i have proved my socialist principles many times over."
I remember you are the socialist that writes off workers just because they are protestent! Pat C that thinks that the workers should unite, but not prodies! You have also attacked ordinary Israeli workers in previons postings.
Pat C, you are not much of a socialist in my opinion!
"Pat C and his 'Socialism'
by Bemused Browser Wed, Dec 11 2002, 2:19pm
"i have proved my socialist principles many times over."
I remember you are the socialist that writes off workers just because they are protestent! Pat C that thinks that the workers should unite, but not prodies! You have also attacked ordinary Israeli workers in previons postings. "
complete fabrication. i pointed out that the majority of protestant workers in the north are beholden to a pro-imperialist ideology. (they also vote for the dup & uup, pro imperialist parties, now that is a fact.)
this was also the view of connolly, lenin, trotsky, & the comintern in their day.
i criticised israeli workers who are beholden to zionism. is it now a crime to criticise zionism?
i also have know sympathy for the settlers in the occupied territories.
i think my attitude to zionism proves my socialist politics.
"Pat C, you are not much of a socialist in my opinion!"
i dont have to prove anything to you,
you anonymous cretin.
the fact that you will only launch your attacks anonymously says something about the integrity & lack of self conviction you possess.
enough of this, rave on & continue to make a fool of yourself if you want. i wont be back to this thread.
and dessie will be released & theres nothing you fuckwits can do about it!
He is such a skang.I heard he took lsd in portlaoise prison,and he is not a nice guy for chopping off fingers and that vile woman who criticied Mr.O'Grady for having a well p[aying job,bitter miss,t'would be a pleasure if the next time she went to a dentist the good docter would know who she is.Arr!
Ar!;0)
"majority of protestant workers in the north are beholden to a pro-imperialist ideology. (they also vote for the dup & uup, pro imperialist parties, now that is a fact.)"
Yes I know that most workers vote for capitalist parties. Look at the results of any election in a capitalist country! Do you not remember the election in Southern Ireland in May? The capitalist parties of FF,FG,PD,Lab have an overwhelming majority of the vote. Doe that mean all southern Irish workers are reactionary bastards that are to be written off?
Yes most protestent workers vote for capitalist/imperialist parties. So do most Catholic workers. SF and SDLP are capitalist/imperialist parties. SF are very willing to back up US imperialism, they receive money from big business in the US, they support US capitalism's intervention into the north as much as UUP-DUP-SDLP!
I think you are the fuck-wit Pat C.
I think everyone that have called Dessie a monster
ect are smallminded F**kers that have never looked at the two sides of the story.I bet not 1 of uses have every met or talked to him in the last few years and in my eyes hes a changed man .He needs to be with his wife sons and daughter .How would any of uses like to go through most of your childhood without a father that could be there only for smallminded people.Think about it Dessie has missed so much history,mod-cons and modern musicin the last 20 years.Our family has been through thick and thin and all people can do is slag us and call him a terrorist when he is'nt .And if you think hes such a danger to the community then shut up cause if any sane person read this about themselfs they'd go mad .lots of love