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Pat Condell should we listen?

category international | anti-war | opinion/analysis author Thursday May 30, 2013 14:47author by dave Report this post to the editors

Here is an excerpt on the background of pat condell,you can find more information,as i havent copied and pasted it all..

''Patrick "Pat" Condell (born 1949 or 1950) is an English writer, political commentator, comedian and atheist internet personality. He performed alternative comedy shows during the 1980s and 1990s in the United Kingdom, and won a Time Out Comedy Award in 1991. He was also a regular panellist on BBC Radio 1's "Loose Talk".''

''From early 2007, he began posting short monologues denouncing religion to a number of video sharing websites, consequently receiving numerous death threats. His videos have been featured on many websites, including YouTube and LiveLeak. They have also been published on DVD, and also as a book of video transcripts. As of March 2013, Pat Condell's YouTube channel has over 177,902 subscribers and 44 million video views.

Condell was born in Ireland, and raised in England as a Roman Catholic. He was educated in several different Church of England schools across South London; he said of this time "I found myself segregated in assembly and shunted into another room while everyone said their morning prayers. The whole pantomime seemed hollow to me even then. Once you become aware of the gulf between what people profess to believe and how they actually behave, it’s hard to take any of it seriously."[5] His father was a compulsive gambler working in a betting shop until he was sent to prison for stealing money. He then died of leukaemia. The family was impoverished, moving repeatedly from home to home. Condell left school at 16, and his first job was washing dishes in the revolving restaurant on top of the Post Office tower, now known as the BT Tower in London, for five shillings an hour.

Condell became a vegetarian in 1976 after watching a deer being butchered. Condell did a number of jobs including six years' logging in Canada.''

I find what he has to say honest,given the fact there are so few who have the integrity to speak out against the evil of islam,(apart from the very few we hear about that have recieved fatwas,muslim death threats,including gert wilders,and salman rushdie and wafa sultan)he is very articulate on such issues as islam,and the role of journalists in the media today.

If you look through his previous video uploads on youtube,Pat doesn't shy away from any subject including christianity and the role of the eu in our so called democratic countries.

In his most recent upload he has called for muslims to reject jihad(muslim war).

Although i think Pat is a little naive in thinking that muslims will ever reject jihad as it is a requirement for muslims to do so.

It would be like me asking hitler if he were still alive to reject nazism.

To see some of what Pat has to say just copy and paste this into your search engine or on the top of your blank search page.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oz267A6jhbw

author by grainnepublication date Thu May 30, 2013 15:39Report this post to the editors

I think we are doing a disservice to ourselves and our children and childrens children,if we choose to ignore this and stick our head in the sand drowing out any rational critisism of islam by desperately shouting ''nazi'',''islamophobe'' and ''racist''..

If you tolerate this then your children will be next,and they will curse us for it.

author by atheistpublication date Thu May 30, 2013 19:06Report this post to the editors

ditto for psychotic christian leaders of the free world with their finger on the button, or their paedophile hands down your kids pants, or their minions interfering in aids riven countries, advocating their poisonous dogma about condom use

Caption: Tell me when lord, tell me when


author by grainnepublication date Thu May 30, 2013 19:20Report this post to the editors

Where are christians demanding use of condoms,i would be interested in seeing some credible sources.

As for the peadophilia thing,jimmy saville didnt commit acts of peadophilia in the name of his god,although the same cannot be said for muslim men marrying six year old girls..

author by atheistpublication date Thu May 30, 2013 19:42Report this post to the editors

I was talking about their religious dogma that condom use is not allowed

You know, the "increase our numbers at all costs" clause in almost every religion. Even if it means lots more superstitious people die of aids as a result.

See Africa for details. If indeed, as you people who hear voices keep insisting, there is a god and she is indeed a caring and benevolent being, then all you paedophile pro life pro capitalism and nuclear arms faux christian fuckers are going to the lake of fire!!

(not ciaron or his friends of course. Those guys are genuine and consistent in following in the ways of Jesus the anarchist / socialist and are going to heaven. It's going to be a pretty empty place though, given what I see of the human race!!)

author by grainnepublication date Thu May 30, 2013 19:44Report this post to the editors

Felix is that you projecting?

author by davepublication date Thu May 30, 2013 20:19Report this post to the editors

If you cannot make contributions in relation to the post then please refrain from posting.

author by Zionism+Nazism=Felixpublication date Thu May 30, 2013 20:28Report this post to the editors

Dear Indymods

This is what happens when you indulge the obviously mentally deranged to post their National Socialist/Zionist inspired "thoughts" here.

The current sock-puppet infestation is completely your own fault for encouraging the obvious-loon in the bizarre belief that he might ever had anything interesting or intelligent to say, in the first place

author by atheistpublication date Thu May 30, 2013 20:33Report this post to the editors

I think allowing this guy to post was the surest way for people to see what a loon he is.

author by Zionism+Nazism=Felix =Completey Nutterpublication date Thu May 30, 2013 20:57Report this post to the editors

maybe - but actually I think some of the Mods are trying to be "balanced" by allowing Pro-Zionist voices to appear - though how balance could be achieved by allowing the obviously mentally UN-Balanced to vomit up their spittle-filled masochistic mental contortions here, for all to see, in all their dis-cognative glory, is a bit of a mystery to me.

Possibly one or two of the Mods allow his rants because they too share some of his hatred for all things Islamic?

Who knows besides themselves why they encourage this obvious NAZI, in complete contradiction to their own stated policies on not allowing Fascists a platform.?

author by davepublication date Thu May 30, 2013 20:58Report this post to the editors

Stick to the poster topic,not hysterical- hyper accusations of nazi and racist,and other attempts to derail the topic as posted above.

Like i said before i don't have sock puppets and i never even heard of felix before..

author by wageslave - (personal capacity)publication date Thu May 30, 2013 21:02Report this post to the editors

"Possibly one or two of the Mods allow his rants because they too share some of his hatred for all things Islamic?"

Nope! But no matter what we do around here we will be villified anyway. Anyone want my job? ;-)

-wageslave

author by Zionism+Nazism=Felixpublication date Thu May 30, 2013 21:36Report this post to the editors

"Peaceful" Jewish Zio-Nazi?


  • Mass graves of Palestinians discovered - http://www.middleeastmonitor.com/news/middle-east/6134-...vered
      MEMO 28 May -- Mass graves have been discovered in the historical cemetery of Al-Kazakhana in Jaffa, Al-Aqsa Foundation for Islamic Endowments and Heritage announced on Monday. The graves contain the remains of Palestinians killed by Jewish militias in 1948 during the Nakba (Catastrophe). According to the Foundation, they were discovered during routine maintenance and rehabilitation of the cemetery in one of the cities occupied by Israel since 1948. The Head of the cemetery rehabilitation project, Mohammed al-Ashqar, said that the remains indicate that they were of Palestinians of varied ages "killed by Zionist gangs" in Jaffa. Some of the graves also date back to the Palestinian Uprising of 1936 against British Mandate rule.


  • More "Peaceful" Jewish Zio-Nazis - Israeli soldiers open fire at Palestinian farmers - http://www.palestine-info.co.uk/En/default.aspx?xyz=U6Q...IU%3d
      KHAN YOUNIS (PIC) 27 May -- Israeli occupation forces (IOF) opened machinegun fire at Palestinian farmers tending their fields east of Khan Younis, south of the Gaza Strip, on Monday morning. A field observer said that IOF soldiers positioned at watchtowers east of Khan Younis opened machinegun fire at Palestinian farmers there. He added that the farmers abandoned their fields to avoid being shot at.


    Even More "Peaceful" Jewish Zio-Nazis:

    • -Jewish settlers set alight 20 dunums of cultivated land -- http://www.palestine-info.co.uk/En/default.aspx?xyz=U6Q...Fs%3d
      NABLUS (PIC) 14 May -- Jewish settlers set ablaze more than 20 dunums of cultivated land lots in Qaryut village, south of Nablus, on Monday and prevented their owners from approaching to put it off. Bashar Al-Qaryuti, in charge with monitoring settlement activity in the village, said that dozens of settlers from the settlement of Shilo started the fire that burnt the land cultivated with barley, wheat, and olives. He charged that the Israeli occupation forces provided protection for the settlers and blocked the land owners, 25 individuals, from extinguishing the fire.


    Yep, you guessed it - yet some more "Peaceful" Jewish Zio-Nazis

    • -Wadi Ara: Mosque desecrated; 3 cars set on fire- - http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4380016,00.html
      Ynet 14 May by Hassan Shaalan -- Three vehicles were set on fire overnight near a mosque in the village of Umm al-Qutuf [or Um al-Qatf] in Wadi Ara [in Israel] and graffiti was sprayed on the wall of the mosque, reading "price-tag" alongside a Star of David and "Eviatar," most likely referring to Eviatar Borovsky, who was stabbed to death in the Tapuach Junction some two weeks ago. Police forces at the scene reported to have launched an investigation into the circumstances, "including nationalistic motives," a police source told Ynet ... Earlier Tuesday, the Safed police launched an investigation into the spraying of racist graffiti in the city. One of the graffiti read: "Arabs out."


I'm almost blinded by the brilliant shine of Peaceful-ness from those Jewish chaps.

author by wageslavepublication date Thu May 30, 2013 22:46Report this post to the editors

"Why DO you Mods encourage this pitifully poor benighted fascist troglodyte in his very transparent attempts to promote sectarian religious hatred?"

Felix and sockie are walking a very fine line (please take note Felix!)

FYI we don't encourage people to post abuse(!!) They just insist on doing so and because we have no registration system, we are left with an intractable problem. Do we hide or do we allow free expression?
When is a hide justified? etc etc.

If everyone was polite, behaved like responsible adults and debated the issues themselves, we wouldn't have that problem. That includes your good self(!!!)

In a nutshell, It's you lot that are the problem here, not us! ;-)

Now enough of the editorial commentary and back to the topic.
Try to be polite and just present the facts ok?

author by Zionism+Nazism=Felix Quigleypublication date Fri May 31, 2013 07:26Report this post to the editors

"If everyone was polite, behaved like responsible adults and debated the issues themselves, we wouldn't have that problem. That includes your good self(!!!)"

Well, perhaps you could give us some tips on how one should approach a "debate" with a clearly intellectually-dishonest insanity-driven racist Islamophobic NAZI Zionist hate-monger who is clearly impervious to ALL rationality and reason.

I find ridicule derision and frequent reminders that we are dealing with a pure 100% NAZI works quite well for me, to be honest.

How do YOU eat your's, wageslave?

author by Zionism+Nazism=Felix Quigleypublication date Fri May 31, 2013 07:35Report this post to the editors

My approach obviously works to some degree, since our NAZI hate-mongering friend "Felix" certainly seems to feel the need to disguise himself when he posts his hate-mongering sectarian religious shite, since as anyone can see he has, today alone, used at least 4 (FOUR) different sockpuppets.

Clearly he realises that once people know that he is "Felix Quigley" the well known Zionist Nazi hate-monger and all-round loon, that will of course completely discredit the faux-innocent stance he likes to adopt when donning one of his many many many sock-puppet disguises (such as they are).

Kind of hard to portray your self as a innocent awakening to the "Muslim Menace!!!!" when you are in fact a well-known dyed-in-the-wool Nazi Zionist Hate-monger without and ounce of honesty that goes by the name of "Felix Quigley"

http://www.indymedia.ie/index.php?obj_id=2117&topic_id=...ts=on

anyone that cares to can click on any page in the search linked above and ctrl-F for "Felix" - they'll find that every word I have stated about "Felix", is true.

author by fredpublication date Fri May 31, 2013 11:06Report this post to the editors

No.

There, that's another stupid thread sorted!

author by wageslavepublication date Fri May 31, 2013 12:09Report this post to the editors

" How do YOU eat your's, wageslave?"

With some alfalfa beans and a nice chianti fafafaaff ;-)

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