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100,000 christians die each year at the hands of muslim persecution

category international | rights and freedoms | news report author Thursday May 30, 2013 13:12author by Sangreel Report this post to the editors

100,000 christians die for faith every year: From the vatican

In todays world too read such a thing, to have it stated by the Vatican is very disturbing. I have sent a letter to Monsignor Silvano Maria Tomasi asking for more data. We talk a lot about Muslims and their rights and treatment, but I ask all of you, What about the Christians??? Please read the link and comment.

we have big issues and there is more going on than meets the eye. I know from reading newspapers online and off about the persecution of Christians.
I had a friend in Iraq email me that the world is facing a clash of cultures and I did not put 2 and 2 together until now.

http://www.breitbart.com/system/wire/CNG---4fd7225a1fea...--6b1

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2332338/100-000....html

author by atheistpublication date Thu May 30, 2013 13:27Report this post to the editors

well, it's a start!

author by Zionism+Nazism=Felixpublication date Thu May 30, 2013 15:10Report this post to the editors

When will you get it through your thick skull that no one here is fooled by your fake personas and obviously fake attempts to appear even somewhat sane and objective?

For example " I had a friend in Iraq email me that the world is facing a clash of cultures and I did not put 2 and 2 together until now. "

Pure Felix - the pretend innocence is quite obvious, and utterly risible.

Your blatant racism and hatred of muslims is well documented at this site - all anyone has to do is search the site for the word Felix and the outpourings of pure fascist insanity-driven hate, interspersed with pretend-innocence from your many many many many attempts at sockpuppetry, are there for all t see.

http://www.indymedia.ie/index.php?obj_id=2117&topic_id=...ts=on

So your faux-objective stance, which you are currently adopting with this latest fake persona of "Sangreel" is quite transparent.

You really are not fooling anyone here, you know?

author by davepublication date Thu May 30, 2013 15:37Report this post to the editors

I have stated before im not a. a zionist or b. a nazi..Get that through your thick skull.

Furthermore i don't even admire nazism, so to say im a nazi is ignorance on your part.

Like i said before when it comes to the violence of islam and muslims,and when somebody points out that fact , sticking your fingers in your ears and calling me a ''zionist'', a ''nazi'' and so on, does not constitute an argument.It just makes you look hysterical and quite frankly a little bit mental.

If you have any contributions to make regarding this subject please do,if you are going to use this comment board to further slander me then don't bother.

Simple. Either make a rational contribution to this subject as above or leave.

author by Birchpublication date Thu May 30, 2013 16:58Report this post to the editors

This fellas got more heads that Worzel Gummage!!

author by Birchpublication date Thu May 30, 2013 16:59Report this post to the editors

This fellas got more heads that Worzel Gummidge!!

author by Des - Nonepublication date Thu May 30, 2013 17:07Report this post to the editors

There are no armed forces from any Islamic country in Europe or the US. There are a hell of a lot in Afghanistan, Iraq and their 'operations' have resulted in literally millions of deaths. Remember Fallajuh? Particularly appalling propaganda. Everyone's life is of equal value.

author by Zionism+Nazism=Felixpublication date Thu May 30, 2013 17:20Report this post to the editors

Well, as any one clicking on the link above could see, you most definitely are a Zionist, "Felix"/"dave"/"Sangreel" (or whatever you decide to call yourself )

and the reason you are called a "Nazi" is NOT because anyone is accusing you of being some sort of identifiably dyed-in-the-wolol Hitler-Lover, Felix., with a fetish for goose-stepping leather-coated 1940's

It is because, again as anyone that knows your output here @ Indymedia.ie, the strange form of "socialism" you so frequently espouse here, is in fact NATIONAL Socialism, which is quite is distinct from INTER-national Socialism.

And National Socialism is NAZIsm - plain and simple. It is the simply the Germanised pronunciation of the joining of those two words Na-tional Socialism

And it is no surprise that you ARE a National Socialist because Zionism TOO is nothing but Jewish NATIONAL Socialism, so your obstensibly-scziophrenic split Zio/Nazi personality fits quite well into your weird imaginary political framework.

"
Like i said before when it comes to the violence of islam and muslims"


Islam is demonstrably no more violent than either of the other 2 supposed "religions of Abraham" ; Judaism and Christianity. The trail of bodie sSTILL being created by the other two "religions of Abraham" easily equals, and most likely exceeds, that which could be attributed solely to "Islam".

You ignore this of course, preferring to highlight individual incidents and try to conflate these into a whole and claim that your false and deliberately dishonest portrait is what represents all the different streams of Islam everywhere,. This is demonstrably false, but you do not care, as you have no desire for nor the remotest interest in accuracy. YOu provably frequently peddle only lies and propaganda here - you have been caught doing it many many times.

Since you have not got the honesty to admit or even address this subject, or indeed most other subjects as far as I can see, in anything even slightly resembling an intellectually-honest manner, you instead micro-focus, obsess and frankly fetishise on some incident somewhere and simply lie about how representative such incidents actually are, of the whole.

You repeatedly and dishonestly claim that such actions are the norm throughout the global community of Islam, which again is clearly false.

And again, you could not care less - you just drone on and on and on with the same old hate-filled, inaccurate, racist, war-mongering shite.

author by Zionism+Nazism=Felixpublication date Thu May 30, 2013 17:23Report this post to the editors

You're bring rationality into it Des.

That's unfair.

He does not seem to be able to do "rationality"

author by davepublication date Thu May 30, 2013 17:31Report this post to the editors

The subject i would wish to discuss is outlined above(see above).

I am not interested in talking about fallujah,or the fact there are british soliders over in these hell-hole countries.

I might add just so you know what side of the coin i am on,i in no way support the presence of armed soliders in these countries either!

Let's get back on topic.

author by davepublication date Thu May 30, 2013 17:39Report this post to the editors

I have said it before in other posts,and unfortunatley i have to say it again to get it through your thick head.

I am not felix,i am not a zionist,and i am not a nazi,my name is dave if you must know,(check the authors name as above).

You have attributed a LOT of accusations to me,that seems to make up the bulk of your argument.

Interesting you say that ''Islam is demonstrably no more violent than either of the other 2 supposed "religions of Abraham" ; Judaism and Christianity. The trail of bodie sSTILL being created by the other two "religions of Abraham" easily equals, and most likely exceeds, that which could be attributed solely to "Islam".''

Islam is more violent than judaism and christianity,where do you see rabbis , priests or vicars calling for the stoning of adulterers,divorcee's or rape victims and apostates,ie ex muslims.?

Nowhere will you see such violence demonstrated in christianity or judaism. So when are we going to have a RATIONAL discussion about the violence that abounds in Islam?

Related Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbIYxwlHjlg
author by atheistpublication date Thu May 30, 2013 17:45Report this post to the editors

haha! At the end of that link to "breibart" it states that the site is partnered to fox news.

Great link Felix!! Really credible source! ;-)

All religions kill when they can get away with it and when it serves their agenda to become more powerful. In that sense, there is little difference between them except which has the most power right now.

The US is essentially a nutjob christian country. It's a fact that you won't ever get elected there unless you pretend that you hear voices in your head from God. Since the US has 7000+ nukes on hair trigger and Israel has 200-300, while India and Pakistan haven't anything like as many, (and Iran has NONE!!!) I'd say the christians are the ones I'm most scared of at present.

You only have to look at the death toll from those oh so "christian" imposed sanctions and wars to see that they are winning on body count by a large margin at the moment.

Be afraid. Be very afraid.

I for one welcome our new fundamentalist christian / jewish overlords and their jihadist attack dogs that they set on secular countries that won't play ball with US capitalism and financial terrorism.

Caption: Tell me when lord, tell me when


author by Zionism+Nazism=Felixpublication date Thu May 30, 2013 17:59Report this post to the editors

" I am not felix,i am not a zionist,and i am not a nazi,my name is dave if you must know,(check the authors name as above)."

O'RLY?

And Yet you replied to a post addressed to "Felix/Sangreel" as if the post had been addressed to the obvious sockpuppet "dave"

Just cos you can't keep tack of what mask you're wearing, today Felix, does not mean the rest of us can't.

You really are a VERY silly man.

" You have attributed a LOT of accusations to me,that seems to make up the bulk of your argument."

and provided the evidence to back it up too - all one would have to do to view it would be to click on the little link-thingy I posted earlier.

Here it is again, in BOLD http://www.indymedia.ie/index.php?obj_id=2117&topic_id=...ts=on

anyone that cares to can click on any page in the search linked above and ctrl-F for "Felix" - they'll find that every thing I have stated about you, "Felix", is true.

No rocket siecne required here, "Felix" - all one has to do is take the time to read your "thoughts" (such as they are) posted here over quite a long period of time.

author by Zionism+Nazism=Felixpublication date Thu May 30, 2013 18:04Report this post to the editors

" So when are we going to have a RATIONAL discussion about the violence that abounds in Islam?"

The conversation already started Felix, but you of course ignored it all because none of it complements the deliberately dishonest portrait you wish to paint.

I'll post it again for you, and block-quote it too so you won't miss it this time, m'Kay?

    Islam is demonstrably no more violent than either of the other 2 supposed "religions of Abraham" ; Judaism and Christianity. The trail of bodie sSTILL being created by the other two "religions of Abraham" easily equals, and most likely exceeds, that which could be attributed solely to "Islam".

    You ignore this of course, preferring to highlight individual incidents and try to conflate these into a whole and claim that your false and deliberately dishonest portrait is what represents all the different streams of Islam everywhere,. This is demonstrably false, but you do not care, as you have no desire for nor the remotest interest in accuracy. YOu provably frequently peddle only lies and propaganda here - you have been caught doing it many many times.

    Since you have not got the honesty to admit or even address this subject, or indeed most other subjects as far as I can see, in anything even slightly resembling an intellectually-honest manner, you instead micro-focus, obsess and frankly fetishise on some incident somewhere and simply lie about how representative such incidents actually are, of the whole.

    You repeatedly and dishonestly claim that such actions are the norm throughout the global community of Islam, which again is clearly false.

    And again, you could not care less - you just drone on and on and on with the same old hate-filled, inaccurate, racist, war-mongering shite.

author by davepublication date Thu May 30, 2013 18:07Report this post to the editors

Im not felix,or sangreel or a zio nazi.

I have stated this before,i have never made a racist comment on indymedia,point out specifically where i have.

Your contributions so far has been slinging insults or accusations,calling me a nazi,or a racist war monger.

I said in my previous posts also that i do not agree with the british armed presence in these middle eastern muslim countries.

Getting to the point,i would like to see reasonable contributions in relation to this topic,and not childish name calling or accusations.

author by davepublication date Thu May 30, 2013 18:15Report this post to the editors

The USA is a multi ethnic,multi religious country. No specific religion is involved in US politics,relgion and state are seperate.

Which is something we do not see in muslim run countries. But of course if we are to look at that , you would call me a bigot a racist and a nazi war monger.

Your reactions are borderline hysterical you resort to name calling and making accusations,and it makes your argument look sill and childlike.

You say ''All religions kill'' , i ask you this where is the widespread killing and maiming going on in the name of christianity or judaism or buddism.

Nowhere will you find a christian,a buddisht,or a jew shouting proudly the name of their god after committing the vile act of murder.

But in islam it is common,to further explore this though,i may run the risk of being called a war monger or a nazi..

Just because a drone is deployed from the us or a bomb is dropped from a fighter jet,doesnt mean it is done in the name of christiainty..

How do you know the solider is christian,there are many soliders of many different religious and racial backgrounds who join the US armed forces.

You cannot blame christianity.

I would like to if possible for these two hysterical maniacs get back on the topic as posted above,otherwise please refrain from posting.

author by Zionism+Nazism=Felixpublication date Thu May 30, 2013 18:17Report this post to the editors

ths of course is no suprise - lying is what yo do, it appears,

24/7 if given the opportunity I'd guess.

"Im not felix,or sangreel or a zio nazi. "

Yeah, ye keep saying that.

No one believed you the first couple of times, and I doubt anyone will be gullible enough to swallow it now, either.

But you can't erase the FACT that you replied to a post addressed to "Felix/Sangreel" as if the post had been addressed to the obvious sockpuppet "dave" can you, "dave"?

Rather inconvenient, that, for your future prospects when it comes to continuing to con anyone into believing that you are not "Felix quigley" the well-known National Socialism and rather rabid Zionist the keeps getting cauhgt out in blatant lies all the time, eh?

author by davepublication date Thu May 30, 2013 18:49Report this post to the editors



Point out where exactly i have been caught out in a lie?

As ever you cannot take any critisism of the facist totalitiarian ideology of islam, without resorting to childish name calling and hysterical accusations of zionazi etc.

As far as Islam is concerned,it seems to be above critisism,you are almost as bad as the guys who hand out fatwahs.

Furthermore i would just like to say, get back on topic or refrain from posting,as all you have done thus far is throw around childish accusations,and hysterically call me a racist.And added nothing positive to this subject.

Also i would like to know where the evidence is of me being a racist..Point out where any racist comments were made.?

author by atheistpublication date Thu May 30, 2013 18:55Report this post to the editors

"The USA is a multi ethnic,multi religious country. No specific religion is involved in US politics,relgion and state are seperate."

Yeah right. Try getting elected there as an atheist or a muslim!!! Christians / mormons or jews only need apply.

"Which is something we do not see in muslim run countries.

em.... Iran was a secular state until the US started meddling. So was Iraq. So was Libya.
several religions lived together in peace in Syria / Iraq until the meddling started.

"Your reactions are borderline hysterical you resort to name calling and making accusations,and it makes your argument look sill and childlike."

Rather an Ironic response to name calling don't you think??

"You say ''All religions kill'' , i ask you this where is the widespread killing and maiming going on in the name of christianity or judaism or buddism."

*cough* Tony Blair *cough* George Bush *cough* Benjamin Netenyahoo
oh and *cough* myanmar for the "peaceful" buddhists (who believe in reincarnation so I guess killing is ok)

"Nowhere will you find a christian,a buddisht,or a jew shouting proudly the name of their god after committing the vile act of murder."

They just pray quietly before going into the battle like all good christians since before the crusades. It's just a question of style in my opinion. The Jihadists are more fiery and expressive, the christians are just a little repressed. Both are nutjob killers given the chance.

"Just because a drone is deployed from the us or a bomb is dropped from a fighter jet,doesnt mean it is done in the name of christiainty.."

"god told me to end the tyranny in Iraq"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2005/oct/07/iraq.usa

"Tony Blair believed God wanted him to go to war to fight evil, claims his mentor "
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/5373525/Tony-B....html

"How do you know the solider is christian,there are many soliders of many different religious and racial backgrounds who join the US armed forces."

mostly economic conscripts from christian families

"You cannot blame christianity."

IMHO It's definitely involved!!! So why can't I point it out??

author by davepublication date Thu May 30, 2013 19:15Report this post to the editors

''Yeah right. Try getting elected there as an atheist or a muslim!!! Christians / mormons or jews only need apply.''

CAIR are a huge muslim group,given plenty of space to breathe,are you trying to sneakily insinuate there is an anti muslim prejudice in public life in america?

And there are muslim and atheist politicians in america..You are just a liar for the muslim cause it is clear to see this.

And may i remind you to get back on topic something you have repeatedly ignored..

author by davepublication date Thu May 30, 2013 19:23Report this post to the editors


I said , Nowhere will you find a christian,a buddisht,or a jew shouting proudly the name of their god after committing the vile act of murder.

You replied:

''They just pray quietly before going into the battle like all good christians since before the crusades.''

How is it you know they pray before going into battle,do you know a lot of atheists and lax christians also make up the bulk of US and British soldiers..?

author by Zionism+Nazism=Felixpublication date Thu May 30, 2013 19:23Report this post to the editors

Felix, you really ain't fooling anyone, you silly man

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Palestinian Child,Kaukab Al Dayah, slaughtered by Jewish National Socilaism - Perhaps the Jewish Pilot said a prayer?
Palestinian Child,Kaukab Al Dayah, slaughtered by Jewish National Socilaism - Perhaps the Jewish Pilot said a prayer?

author by davepublication date Thu May 30, 2013 19:26Report this post to the editors

"myanmar for the "peaceful" buddhists (who believe in reincarnation so I guess killing is ok)''

You conviently haven't gone into the background of myanmar,didn't the muslims kick up a racket by hacking up a few buddishts first.

And we all know just how well muslims settle into other societies,one only has to look at the recent riots of sweden..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipGpAUKJtzI

author by Zionism+Nazism=Felixpublication date Thu May 30, 2013 19:28Report this post to the editors

Just this second retrieved from Google:



ALL of the above is sponsored and encouraged by the US Gov't

And I haven't even STARTED on the Christians yet

author by davepublication date Thu May 30, 2013 19:30Report this post to the editors

It is easy to surf for shocking photos on the internet of slain individuals to support your cause,but you are not really looking at this on balance.

What is the one group of people that cause most of the disharmony in the world today,and it aint the christians or the buddists refusing to fit into modern society..

WIth the myanmar situation,the reason that was sparked was due to a couple of muslims running riot with bone cutting meat cleavers and hacking up a a couple of buddishts,thats what sparked that situation,you are not looking at it in its full context..

author by Zionism+Nazism=Felixpublication date Thu May 30, 2013 19:31Report this post to the editors

THAT is Felix's Utopia

author by davepublication date Thu May 30, 2013 19:37Report this post to the editors

YOU are not fooling anybody with your pro muslim bullshit,and palestine,thats just a propoganda piece not that i support what is going on there either,but i do see through the bullshit.

The history of isreal,on the night the jews secured and bought that land,the palestinians showed up and laid claim to that land,these palestinian ''ciizens'' were previously citizens of jordan.

It is easy to make muslims look like the victim,as with all violent confrontation even the perpetrator of violence sometimes suffers hence the pictures you posted,some of course will be children who are not fully involved in the violence.

I have to ask you and try to answer this honestly without deflecting or bringing in side show issues,what group of people are causing most of the disharmony around the world today?

I'll give you a clue,its not buddishts,christians or jews..

author by Zionism+Nazism=Felixpublication date Thu May 30, 2013 19:39Report this post to the editors



WIth the myanmar situation,the reason that was sparked was due to a couple of muslims running riot with bone cutting meat cleavers and hacking up a a couple of buddishts,thats what sparked that situation,you are not looking at it in its full context..


The FULL context Felix is that YOU are a National Socialist that likes to spread racist pro-war Anti-Muslim propaganda and are oblivious to reason or rationality.

And you are a liar of course, because the FULL context in Myanmar is that the US-sponsored Myanmar "pro-democracy" front nis heavily involved in these attacks, and attempts at genocide of ethnic minorities - http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2012/09/us-funded-act....html

But we all know you have no interest in Buddhists anyway - you're only concerned with two things, supporting Zio-Nazism and attack Islam - it's what you do, each and every time you post here.

author by davepublication date Thu May 30, 2013 19:40Report this post to the editors

You see the truth is , is that muslims are at war with everybody..The jews,the buddishts,the christians..

And everyone inbetween..You have to ask what the common denominator is,and it is muslim attitudes..

Every member of every other religion and even including atheists,all non believers,it is until the muslim attitude changes,these acts of violence will continue on both sides.

author by Zionism+Nazism=Felixpublication date Thu May 30, 2013 19:50Report this post to the editors

"what group of people are causing most of the disharmony around the world today?"

the answer to which will obviously depend on the honesty, intelligene, rationality or insanity of the person answering it.

Clearly YOUR answer is "Them DAMN MUSLIMS cause ALL the problems!!!!" - and this is not surprising Felix since as I showed earlier you are a racist Zio-Nazi hate-monger

AND what answer COULD a "racist Zio-Nazi hate-monger" give, other than "Them DAMN MUSLIMS cause ALL the problems!!!!" ??

More rational and less insane people have given alternative, more comprehensive, rational and far less insane answers to that question, which you obviously do not agree with, those being a little too rational/sane/honest/well-informed for you I spose.

the fact that you refuse to apply little if any intellectual honesty at all in your attempt to counter those less insane and more rational counterpoints is I guess a major part of the reason that almost everyone here considers you to be a racist Zio-Nazi hate-monger

That that bothers you is not our fault.

author by Zionism+Nazism=Felixpublication date Thu May 30, 2013 20:10Report this post to the editors

http://desertpeace.wordpress.com/2013/05/29/israeli-air...rted/

    Israel inflicts different methods of terror on Lebanon daily: F-16s and F-15s stage mock raids and drones stalk our skies — all in violation of UN resolution 1701. Lebanese citizens are kidnapped near the border, Israeli landmines and cluster bombs continue to await their victims on Lebanese soil, not to mention the Israeli army’s continued occupation of parts of Lebanon.


==========

And here's another question that Felix won't even want people to ask

Who Are The Neoconservatives?" - http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article35106.htm">

    "The
    neoconservative movement, which is generally perceived as a
    radical (rather than “conservative”) Republican right, is, in
    reality, an intellectual movement born in the late 1960s in the
    pages of the monthly magazine Commentary, a media arm of
    the American Jewish Committee, which had replaced the
    Contemporary Jewish Record
    in 1945. The Forward, the
    oldest American Jewish weekly, wrote in a January 6th, 2006
    article signed Gal Beckerman: “If there is an intellectual
    movement in America to whose invention Jews can lay sole claim,
    neoconservatism is it. It’s a thought one imagines most American
    Jews, overwhelmingly liberal, will find horrifying. And yet it
    is a fact that as a political philosophy, neoconservatism was
    born among the children of Jewish immigrants and is now largely
    the intellectual domain of those immigrants’ grandchildren
    ”.
    The neoconservative apologist Murray Friedman explains that
    Jewish dominance within his movement by the inherent benevolence
    of Judaism, “the idea that Jews have been put on earth to
    make it a better, perhaps even a holy, place
    ” (The
    Neoconservative Revolution: Jewish Intellectuals and the Shaping
    of Public Policy,
    2006)."

and:


    "Neoconservatism is essentially a modern Jewish version of
    Machiavelli’s political strategy. What characterizes the
    neoconservative movement is therefore not as much Judaism as a
    religious tradition, but rather Judaism as a political project,
    i.e. Zionism, by Machiavellian means. Note that, in an article
    in the Jewish World Review on June 7th, 1999, the
    neoconservative Michael Ledeen defends the thesis that
    Machiavelli was a crypto-Jew, as were at the time thousands of
    families nominally converted to Catholicism under threat of
    expulsion of death. “Listen to his political philosophy, and
    you will hear the Jewish music
    ”, wrote Ledeen, citing in
    particular Machiavelli’s contempt for the nonviolent ethics of
    Jesus and his admiration for the pragmatism of Moses, who was
    able to kill countless men in the interests of enforcing his new
    law.

AND . . .


    Obviously,
    if Zionism is synonymous with patriotism in Israel, it cannot be
    an acceptable label in American politics, where it would mean
    loyalty to a foreign power. This is why the neoconservatives do
    not represent themselves as Zionists on the American scene. Yet
    they do not hide it all together either. Elliott Abrams,
    Deputy National Security Adviser
    in the administration of
    Bush’s son, wrote in his book Faith or Fear (1997): “Outside
    the land of Israel, there can be no doubt that Jews, faithful to
    the covenant between God and Abraham, are to stand apart from
    the nation in which they live. It is the very nature of being
    Jewish to be apart — except in Israel — from the rest of the
    population
    ”. It is hard to come with a better definition of
    Zionism, the corollary of which is the apartheid practiced
    against non-Jewish peoples in Palestine, defended in the same
    year by Douglas Feith in his “Reflections on Liberalism,
    Democracy and Zionism
    ”, pronounced in Jerusalem, defending
    the right of Israel to be an “ethnic nation”: “there
    is a place in the world for non-ethnic nations and there is a
    place for ethnic nations
    ”.


AND


    If one is
    entitled to consider the neoconservatives as Zionists, it is
    especially in noting that their foreign policy choices have
    always coincided perfectly with the interests of Israel (as they
    see it). Israel’s interest has always been understood as
    dependent on two things: the immigration of Eastern Jews and the
    financial support of the Jews of the West (American and, to a
    lesser extent, European). Until 1967, the national interest
    pushed Israel toward the Soviet Union, while the support of
    American Jews remained quiet. The socialist and collectivist
    orientation of the Labor Party in power naturally inclined them
    in this direction, but Israel’s good relations with the USSR
    were primarily due to the fact that the mass immigration of Jews
    was only possible through the good will of the Kremlin. During
    the three years following the end of the British mandate on
    Palestine (1948), which had hitherto limited Jewish immigration
    out of consideration for the Arab population, two hundred
    thousand Polish Jewish refugees in the USSR were allowed to
    settle in Palestine, with others coming from Romania, Hungary
    and Bulgaria.


AND


    The Six
    Day War was a decisive turning point: in 1967, Moscow protested
    against Israel’s annexation of new territories, broke diplomatic
    relations with Tel Aviv and stopped the emigration of its Jewish
    citizens, which had accelerated in the previous month. It is
    from this date that Commentary became, in the words of
    Benjamin Balint, “the contentious magazine that transformed
    the Jewish left into the neoconservative right”
    . The
    neoconservatives realized that, from that point, Israel’s
    survival – and its territorial expansion – depended on the
    support and protection of another super-power, the U.S.
    military, and concomitantly that their need for Jewish
    immigrants could only be fulfilled by the fall of communism.
    These two objectives converged in the deepening of military
    power of the United States. This is why Irving Kristol engaged
    the American Jewish Congress in 1973 to fight George
    McGovern’s proposal to reduce the military budget by 30%: “this
    is to drive a knife into the heart of Israel. [...] Jews don’t
    like a big military budget, but it is now an interest of the
    Jews to have a large and powerful military establishment in the
    United States. [...] American Jews who care about the survival
    of the state of Israel have to say, no, we don’t want to cut the
    military budget, it is important to keep that military budget
    big, so that we can defend Israel
    ”. We now understand better
    what reality Kristol was referring to, when he famously defined
    a neoconservative as “a liberal who has been mugged by
    reality
    ”."

author by davepublication date Thu May 30, 2013 20:16Report this post to the editors

F-16s and F-15s stage mock raids is hardly a front line news piece.Its like a mock fire drill,where there is no REAL FIRE.

author by Zionism+Nazism=Felixpublication date Thu May 30, 2013 20:22Report this post to the editors

Felix you are a very insane individual

author by davepublication date Thu May 30, 2013 21:49Report this post to the editors

No it is YOU who is insane.You keep ignoring my requests to stick to the topic,and you go off on a palestiniain vs the west tangent.

You refuse to show any respect,by repeatedly ignoring requests to refrain from commenting,if you are not going to make any relevant contributions.

You accuse me of many things,being pro zionist,a nazi etc..You are hysterical at best and psychogically deranged at worst spitting out bile and resorting to personal attacks.

author by Zionism+Nazism=Felixpublication date Thu May 30, 2013 22:04Report this post to the editors

Children among 19 killed by Israeli tank fire - http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2006/nov/08/israel2

    At least 19 Palestinians were killed and 40 wounded when five Israeli shells hit a row of houses in the northern Gaza town of Beit Hanoun this morning.

    The dead and injured - including nine children, four women and six men - were sleeping when the first shell hit at around 6am local time. Many of the victims were taken to hospital in their pyjamas


Maybe the "Peaceful" Jewish Chap below fired one of those shells?

Peaceful Jewish Chap praying to his "God" while sitting on his Fully armed and dangerous Merkava Tank
Peaceful Jewish Chap praying to his "God" while sitting on his Fully armed and dangerous Merkava Tank

author by Zionism+Nazism=Felixpublication date Thu May 30, 2013 22:09Report this post to the editors

a piece of this, a piece of that

The  Results of Deliberately firing "Peaceful" Merkva Tank shells
The Results of Deliberately firing "Peaceful" Merkva Tank shells

author by Zionism+Nazism=Felixpublication date Fri May 31, 2013 22:23Report this post to the editors

Sorry but, were my latest two comments in this thread not rational or on-topic enough for you?

author by davepublication date Sat Jun 01, 2013 13:40Report this post to the editors

you haven't once stuck to the topic of christians being persecuted,instead you use the usual isrealis vs the palenstinians tripe.

author by @ "dave"/Felix the Muslim-hating Zio-Nazipublication date Sat Jun 01, 2013 16:45Report this post to the editors

Six mass graves containing the remains of around 600 Palestinians, killed by Jewish terrorists, have been uncovered in the Jaffa district of Tel Aviv - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2334205/Mass-gr...=1490

Hundreds of corpses of Christian and Muslim Palestinians, murdered by Jewish Terrorists, found in Tel Aviv
Hundreds of corpses of Christian and Muslim Palestinians, murdered by Jewish Terrorists, found in Tel Aviv

author by davepublication date Sat Jun 01, 2013 18:08Report this post to the editors

Im getting sick of your deranged tirades against me,you resort to either a. personal attacks calling me a nazi etc(which i am not , i dont even admire hitler or nazism), or b. rabbling off topic on the usual palestine vs israel rant.

If you cannot stick to the topic,i will be notifying the mods about your unreasonable beheviour.

author by @ "Dave" - the Felix-the-NAZI sockpuppetpublication date Sat Jun 01, 2013 18:52Report this post to the editors

the reason you are called a "Nazi" is NOT because anyone is accusing you of being some sort of identifiably dyed-in-the-wool Hitler-Lover, Felix., with a fetish for the goose-stepping leather-coated 1940's

It is because, again as anyone that knows your output here @ Indymedia.ie, the strange form of "socialism" you so frequently espouse here, is in fact NATIONAL Socialism, which is quite is distinct from INTER-national Socialism.

And National Socialism is NAZIsm - plain and simple. It is the simply the Germanised pronunciation of the joining of those two words Na-tional Socialism

And it is no surprise that you ARE a National Socialist because Zionism TOO is nothing but Jewish NATIONAL Socialism, so your ostensibly-schizophrenic split-Zio/Nazi-personality fits quite well into your weird imaginary political framework.

author by davepublication date Sun Jun 02, 2013 12:13Report this post to the editors

Getting off topic again......You accuse me of being a socialist which i am not,i am a supporter of democracy to answer your accustation,i notice YOU DIDNT EVEN ASK IF I WAS A SOCIALIST YOU JUST CAME UP WITH THAT ALL BY YOURSELF!

As winston churchilll said the fascists of the future will claim to be anti fascist.Never so true now in this case..

If you cannot get back on the topic of christians being persecuted i will be notifying the mods about your unreasonable disrespectful nature today..

author by "dave"-Felix Quigley, well-known ZIo-Loon and all-round NAZIpublication date Sun Jun 02, 2013 12:56Report this post to the editors

"Dave"/Felix the Zio-Loon stated: "If you cannot get back on the topic of christians being persecuted"

Oh that was the topic was it?

Silly me, I just thought that this whole charade of you, Felix Quigley, hilariously and very ineptly posing as "innocent "dave"" just awakening to "De Muslim Menace!!!!" was just a convenient smokescreen to disguise the fact that you are Felix Quigley, well known racist Muslim-hating National Socialist (NAZI) and all-round Zionist Loon.

You see to me it's obvious that you wish portray Muslims as uniquely dangerous, uniquely barbaric uniquely violent. You have been shown repeatedly evidence which proves that Muslims are far from unique when it comes to violence. Far from it indeed.

The only violence you want to "discuss" is that which you lay the blame for at the feet of those perfidious "Muslims!!!!!!".

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author by "dave"-Felix Quigley, well-known ZIo-Loon and all-round NAZIpublication date Sun Jun 02, 2013 13:48Report this post to the editors

" i will be notifying the mods about your unreasonable disrespectful nature today."

Oh DO feel free to "notify . . the mods" about whatever little bonkers bee you have buzzing in your little NAZI beehive, there Felix.

As far as I am concerned there is nothing "unreasonable" about my "disrespectful nature" towards you, ""dave"-Felix Quigley, well-known ZIo-Loon and all-round NAZI.

And certainly not today, or indeed any other day.

My "disrespectful nature" towards you is partly based on the fact that you are Felix Quigley, hilariously and very ineptly posing as "innocent "dave"" just awakening to "De Muslim Menace!!!!" - which is just a convenient smokescreen to disguise the fact that you are Felix Quigley, well known racist Muslim-hating National Socialist (NAZI) and all-round Zionist Loon.

My "disrespectful nature" towards you is also partly based on the fact you are completely intellectually dishonest. and are completely irrational yourself.

For example you repeatedly claim that others refuse to engage with you in a "rational" manner, this despite your own comlpete irrationality, and the obvious FACT that when anyone does actually try to engage with you in a completely rational manner, you ignore it completely and usually either cease commenting or replying to that person, or you continue to whinge and whinge about your claims that they are not replying to you in a rational manner, completely ignoring that fact that they have replied to you in a rational manner.

Clearly ALL your arguments are deliberately circular and equally clearly you are completely bonkers

author by "dave"-Felix Quigley, well-known ZIo-Loon and all-round NAZIpublication date Sun Jun 02, 2013 15:52Report this post to the editors

Lebanon to take airspace violations to UN - http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2013/06/201362....html

    Foreign minister set to file complaint over repeated violations by Zio-Nazis.

    Lebanon's foreign minister is set to to file a complaint with the UN over Zio-Nazi violations of his country's airspace.

    The Zio-Nazi air force has intensified low-flying sorties over Lebanese airspace including Beirut, Lebanese security officials said on Sunday.

    Lebanon's National News Agency reported that warplanes flew over southern Lebanon, Beirut, the eastern Bekaa Valley and the city of Baalbek.

    Last month the UN called on Zio-Nazis to stop increased military air patrols over Lebanon after two completely unprovoked Zio-Nazi air attacks on Syria.

    Zio-Nazi warplanes regularly enter Lebanese airspace, in blatant and complete defiance of UN Resolutions, but a Lebanese security official told the AP news agency that the Sunday overflights were among the most intense recently.

    There was no immediate comment from Zio-Nazi Official spokespersons.

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