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International - Event Notice Thursday January 01 1970 Winter Workshop; Obesity international |
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 Tuesday January 18, 2011 17:22 by Sean Crudden - Cooley Environmental and Health Group sean at cooleyehg dot com Jenkinstown, Dundalk, Co Louth 0879739945
 11th Annual Winter Workshop This is the 11th annual winter workshop in a series dating from the beginning of the millennium and organised by Cooley Environmental and Health Group. The topic might seem to be trivial and hackneyed to some but it has many ramifications in literature, mental health, sport, medicine, fashion, dress, politics, education. You probably can add yards to the list with a bit of thought yourself. The workshop takes place on Saturday 29 January 2011 from 14.00 to 17.30 in The Strand, Omeath, Co. Louth, Ireland. The venue is about 120m, to the right as you approach, from the pier in Omeath. As you will notice from the CEHG website a number of African speakers have confirmed so cultural differences and unusual motivations may emerge. As Yinka remarked to me in a text, "If a fowl does not die it might still eat corn!" This is a workshop. It is not meant to be a series of lectures. So if you intend to come please be prepared to participate. Still it is not compulsory to speak. The weather has not always been kind to us over the past decade at this time of year. But as you will have noticed the light is improving already. It would be helpful if you could let me know a few days in advance if you decide to come to the workshop. |
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Jump To Comment: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16I am posting this comment to give indymedia readers who may not be already familiar with the area some idea of the surroundings of Omeath. Omeath lies in the shadow of the Cooley Mountains to the south. Looking north from the pier in Omeath (adjacent to The Strand) as the camera does in the picture one sees Warrenpoint on the far side of Carlingford Lough. Proverbially Omeath people are noted for "seeing the 'Point."
Warrenpoint
The link below will lead you to a short description of what happened at the workshop on Saturday. The photo shows Pastor Isaac Adewola and Archbishop Michael Desmond Hynes (workshop facilitator) in friendly pose following the post workshop meal.
Pastor and Archbishop
..archbishops do when they are not sheltering child-abusers. This wouldn't be a smoke-screen to deflect attention from more important discussions as to the 'pastoral' paternalism of Mudder Church? Oxymoronic to its core.
But I do like the picture of the parishioner in the background. Is that Pappa Razzi trying to defrock her, or just another Gilmore gust?
Hi Opus. The answer to your first question is "no." The answer to your second question or dilemma is "neither one nor the other." I know you mean well, Opus, and you write a lot. But the topic of this thread is obesity.
If you know of any bishop or archbishop that is harbouring/protecting paedophiles or child abusers then spit it out. What you are doing is indulging in stock smears against a whole category of people most of whom are probably worthy and upright individuals. It may give you a cheap thrill to put people down like paparazzi, archbishops, Gilmore, me?
You are adept at clever and fractured language. But you continually return to your antagonism towards mother church. Of course you are entitled to hold any belief you wish. But to be frank with you I got the message long ago and I am tired of listening to you. Meanwhile you are cluttering up and drawing red herrings across every thread I try to open?
I'll have to go to confession.
Name one? Any one who has not resigned in disgust and anger at the way our politics and collective psychology has been poisoned by this self-serving institution. As sure as church collusion with every reactionary force it can cultivate to further its totalitarian 'one true church' ends.
The list is public, but like our political malefactors who ensured we bailed out that other wuncha bankers(as well as shouldering the hod of clerical compensation)they retain their untouchable status. They can aford better lawyers. Our money pays for them.
I believe(Credo?)the moral rot at the heart of this institution is related to the irrationality, and the aversion to rationality and adult independence stems largely from the malign influence of this pietistic crew of manipulative twisters who keep our people emotionally and psychologically dependent on their superstitions.
you're tired of listening to me?Well sean, I'm a little weary of the tinnitus that flows from a burst eardrum provided by a rejected advance from just such a pietistic Christian Brother quite a while back.
To say nothing of the droning indoctrination endured through our earliest years.
Adept at clever and fractured language? Perhaps I should apply for the Jesuits. That sounds like a good reference. Can I mention your name?
Better still, get them in here to challenge my case. You have all the big battallions, no matter what Napoleon thought.
Obesity? Well Mother church is well qualified there. She has fattened herself on the poor for two millennia. Their are undoubtedly decent and honest individuals in it, but the institution is sick. Roncalli tried to cure it, but that attempt has been sabotaged and reversed ever since.
Hi Opus. I took a break yesterday. And I attended 9.30 mass this morning in Our Lady of The Wayside Church, Jenkinstown. The peope there were awake and devout. The rosary was recited before mass and exposition of the blessed sacrament took place after mass complete with incense. Now I know that most of the people there would not know you or anything about you but they would be familiar, at least to some extent, with the case against the church which you are trying to advance. I know you have your own reasons and a pesonal slant in your argument. But I think you cannot dismiss me or the congregation in OLOTW or battalions like us throughout the length and breadth of Ireland who got up to worship God on this day, 1 February 2011, the feast of St. Brigid, Mary of The Gael. I have lived a long time already, Opus, so I have no fear of dying young. However I do not consider myself to be a total moron and I take a dim view of people who try to heap shame, blame, guilt, disgrace on my head. People are aware of the issues you continually return to but they apply their own intelligence to the situation and pursue their own way through. Or, worse again, are you trying to impose some kind of orthodoxy here on indymedia that we must all kow-tow to and support? Anyway, Opus, what has all this to do with the article I wrote and the winter workshop on obesity?
'..impose some kind of orthodoxy..'??
No, that would be the religious route. I'm trying to challenge the contradictions I encounter(not least in my own interpretations)and break the anti-rational hold the surrender of conscience(the internal argument against the automatic presumptions we are all by nature prone to) to the lazy fallback of 'faith' and blind unquestioning belief in the 'guidance' of a long-corrupt institution imposed, on the less well educated and more timid among us.
'..pursue their own way through..'. If only. You know as well as I do how much political power is wielded through the pulpit, and how that power is wielded not for the good of our people but the welfare of parasitic elites, not least that same rich heirarchy in its episcopal 'palaces'. You distract the 'flock' with admonishing against the evils of sexuality(rich again, considering the 'celibate' claims which hardly gives authority on such matters)while ignoring the criminal divisions in wealth within our society. The political machinations of your church, from the bedrooms to the boardrooms, and the Oireachtas are well documentd and recorded, for any who take the slightest interest in the democratic responsibility to at least TRY to know.
Kow-tow and support??I dont think I am the one claiming authority from the unseen powers for my pontifications.
Nor is it any way personal. It is the pyramidic institutional structure leads to the oxymoronic rot. As I said, Roncalli tried to introduce democratic reform and draw the church out of its primitive superstitions, but the curia have been labouring dilligently to bury his influence ever since, not least by their continued collaboration with the Latin American parasite regimes that parrallelled their support of Franco and his forces of reaction in the 1930s and on. The same extractive kleptocracies that killed men like Romero who tried to drive the Liberation theology forward and produce LATERAL structures and a more lateral society. Meantime, globally and locally, the pyramids of power grow steadily steeper. But while condoms are sinful, and obesity is your 'moral' concern, economic deportation of our childern are ignored. Your temples are not short of merchants.
God forgive me, Opus, but I don't give a fuck about condoms. I never saw one in my life. And I don't really think anyone else gives a fuck about them either. I am more worried about empty-headed scribblers peddling smear and innuendo. I do not want to be rushed, pushed, hustled; into hasty judgement about Bertie Ahern, Seán Brady, Opus Diablos, my church; by glib gabblers in the media. I do not know much but I prefer to be guided by what I know from my own experience. I served mass as a youngster in Ballapousta; I attended St. Patrick's College, Armagh, which was run by the Vincentians; and St. Patrick's College, Maynooth. I described to you before my present level of commitment to the church. Naturally, like yourself, I have a selection of hate figures. But on the whole I must confess the church as an institution did for me more than I did for it and more than I can possibly repay. And on the whole I am grateful to my teachers both lay and clerical. Incidentally although I had many good teachers over a lifetime I think the best teacher I ever had was my last, Liz Dullaghan in FÁS. And you know what people think of FÁS?
I reckon one of the men in the pic fancies Marilyn.
The other man probably fancies Groucho.
Very artistic.
Dont be gettin all upset. Try reading what I'm saying about the institution, not your primary teachers and fucking Fas. There were decent honest individuals caught up in the shit of Nazism. That does not absolve the structures and institutions of nazism of their crimes. Your denials merely confirm the psychological immaturity induced by the whole 'belief over doubt' syndrome. Soviet Russia produced the same totalitarian faith in its infallible monopoly of Pravda(truth)to the exclusion of all dissent. And some never grow out of these crippling psychological chains.
One of the reasons I'm bothering to confront your stance is the fact you are associated on indymedia with mental illness issues. I hold the grip of the church on the healthy functioning of our thinking machinery to be an accessory before, after and during the fact of our political gullibility as a people.
Is not the instruction to the physician to first heal himself?Also, if the church's role is supposed to be moral leadership, what the fuck is it doing playing with obesity at this level when our moral idiocy is so glaringly evident on matters such as our collusion in the vicious wars in the Middle East and the corruption of our politics, media and business elites at the expense of our general population, your purported 'church'. But then as they say, its enough to make a bishop drop his crook and fuck his flock. As they did and continue to do.
And relax,God will forgive you, she's a nice girl.
"Your denials merely confirm the psychological immaturity induced by the whole 'belief over doubt' syndrome"
The photo is an obvious "leg -pull" Opus.
Stop digging.
Well, Opus. Whatever happens I hope to get up tomorrow and eat corn flakes, sliced banana, milk; and carry on with my usual quotidian. I do not want to drive the bus. I thought Charlie Haughey knew how to drive the bus and Bertie Ahern was a dab hand although his oveall navigation was uncertain. No system is perfect and Micheál Martin has admitted that the way government has been working in Ireland is faulty. I already said I do not give a fuck about condoms and after a while no-one outside this country will give a fuck about Ireland either if things keep going the way they are going. And in a strict sense we may all be better off that way. Casting the shadows; of Adolf Hitler, Joseph Djugashvili, clerical paederasty, a socially dominant church; over me is easy to do but it is unfair, unproductive, doomed to failure. Portraying systems, structures, institutions, as bogeyman and ogre inculcates no fear in me. It merely indicates to me that you think you can get away with treating me like some kind of impressionable child. No self-respecting adult with any sense of responsibility would stoop to treating a child like that. However far we can advance the anarchy ideal there will always be systems, structures, institutions. And as Aristotle pointed out millennia ago different political systems suit different people but none is perfect. A former bus conductor I like a good bus. But any bus will do. I am not going to complain.
..that little paragraph does more to confirm my stance, that religion predisposes people to dispense with their critical intelligence and tends to render them credulous and gullible, than anything I might write.
I should have guessed you were comfortably inside the race tent and pissing out.
That little paragraph does more to confirm my stance, that religion predisposes people to dispense with their critical intelligence and tends to render them credulous and gullible, than anything I might write."
Tell us something new Opus.
Charles Darwin commented that people will kill other people with relish if a "cause" is implanted in their minds.
That observation was commonplace long before Darwin sat in his corner and stuck in his thumb. I was replying to a paragraph apparently addressed to my ID. We all are aware of your vast fund of distractive inclinations.
Alas, as a relative newcomer to the internet, I had thought I might have stumbled across a left minded quality website, but your delettion of my question has just answered it for me. Allowing talk of support for Egypt, Tunisia and anything remotely against Israel is all well and good but you have nothing of substance to offer in support of IRELAND - continue to throw eggs and paint in your obviously ample spare time - it will do nothing in the long run! I for one won't be back (delete at your convenience).