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Jim Corr's Lies about lisbon Treaty

category national | miscellaneous | other press author Monday September 21, 2009 22:48author by Ger Kelly Report this post to the editors

Jim Corr is using a selective quote from an article by Giscard d'Estaing to give a completely false impression of what he actually said

Jim Corr has been all over the media recently quoting Valery Giscard d’Estaing and claiming that he wants to sneak the European Constitution past the Irish electorate. This is a big lie and Jim Corr knows it!

The quote he’s using is from an article written by Giscard which appeared in Le Monde on 15 June 2007 (see quote below). The quote is part of a critique of somebody else’s suggestion that the constitution be ratified by the member states piecemeal and on the sly. In the next paragraph (which Corr neglects to mention) Giscard rejects this idea, saying, “This approach of ‘divide and ratify’ is clearly unacceptable... it would confirm to European citizens the notion that European construction is a procedure organised behind their backs by lawyers and diplomats.”

In the following paragraphs Giscard goes on to appeal for an “honest treaty” and “total transparency” to allow citizens to hear the debate for themselves.

Clearly the meaning that Giscard intended is the exact opposite of what Jim Corr claims it is. Jim Corr is quoting selectively in order to give a false impression in a way that can only be described as dishonest.

Original text of article:
Le Traité simplifié, oui , mutilé, non
Article paru dans l'édition du 15.06.07
Les Etats européens peuvent sortir de l'ornière à condition de respecter l'esprit du Traité constitutionnel

Une dernière trouvaille consiste à vouloir conserver une partie des innovations du Traité constitutionnel, et à les camoufler en les faisant éclater en plusieurs textes. Les dispositions les plus innovantes feraient l'objet de simples amendements aux traités de Maastricht et de Nice. Les améliorations techniques seraient regroupées dans un Traité devenu incolore et indolore. L'ensemble de ces textes serait adressé aux Parlements, qui se prononceraient par des votes séparés. Ainsi l'opinion publique serait-elle conduite à adopter, sans le savoir, les dispositions que l'on n'ose pas lui présenter « en direct ».

Cette démarche de « diviser pour ratifier » n'est évidemment pas à la hauteur de l'enjeu. Elle est peut-être un bon exercice de présentation. Mais elle confortera les citoyens européens dans l'idée que la construction européenne est une machinerie organisée dans leur dos par des juristes et des diplomates.

Related Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxRpraBkL8U
author by TheyTriedToGetAYes4LisbonButWeSaidNoNoNopublication date Fri Sep 25, 2009 23:05author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Jim is just a pop star. He is not an intellectual by any stretch of the imagination. Knocking jim corr down is just a straw man argument. The YES campaign must be floundering if they resort to such petty tactics.

author by No voter - againpublication date Fri Sep 25, 2009 22:26author address author phone Report this post to the editors

I know lots of people have seen lots ot the Vote NO videos on Youtube but if anybody is thinking of voting Yes you should really, really, really look at these videos, you may just change your mind and Jim Corr isn't in them either. Just EU politicians and policies. Even if you think he may have made a mistake in one comment but there aren't mistakes in these videos...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6QmH-7fu68&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Jg-qzJ-L_A&feature=related

Just watch them.

author by pucapublication date Thu Sep 24, 2009 05:25author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Corr is a clown who is incoherent on everything he talks about. This whole new world order, 9/11 conspiracy, one world govt stuff is for the birds. A mile wide and an inch deep. Just because he's on the right side of Lisbon is no reason to promote his crap ideas. Lots of fascists are on the right side of Lisbon.

author by Bazooka Joepublication date Wed Sep 23, 2009 03:14author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Please listen to this interview with Jim Corr where he explains how he sees the EU as part of the New World Order.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPfszpqq2o4

author by Andreapublication date Tue Sep 22, 2009 11:43author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Jim should do a cover of this Michael Franti tune

Caption: Video Id: QQrF4Jtb95I Type: Youtube Video
still believe the system is working?


author by ted bundypublication date Tue Sep 22, 2009 09:56author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Hes telling the truth....so refreshing from all the lies from Bobo geldoff and all the rest of the corporate ass sucking 'artists' are used to doing. repeating their lies verbateum.
Corr also calls bush a nazi, and that 9/11 was not as the official story says....

Fair fucks to Jimbo, hate the music but at least he swims against the current trend of lies and calls them on their bullshit.....

Im now a fan....might even buy a cd...does he do solostuff...

author by paul o toolepublication date Mon Sep 21, 2009 23:18author address author phone Report this post to the editors

The other 99% of what he says is on the money?? Yes.
Mabey its a mistake on his part, mabey he done it delierately, so what. Wouldent be the first time someone slipped up.
I think Ger, if your looking for propaganda look no further than the yes side.

Looking foreward to Lisbon 3, humiliate them again..

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