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Baroness Kinnock of Holyhead confrims Irish Lisbon guarantees are meaningless

category international | eu | other press author Saturday July 04, 2009 09:03author by Blacbloc Report this post to the editors

Game up for the Yes campaign

A politics.ie poster has retrieved the text of a House of Lords debate from Hansard in which Kinnock says the guarantees are not legally binding. The whole yes camp are caught with trousers down by their ankles! Here's what she said: "Those guarantees do not change the Lisbon treaty; the European Council conclusions are very clear on them. The Lisbon treaty, as debated and decided by our Parliament, will not be changed and, on the basis of these guarantees, Ireland will proceed to have a second referendum in October." She added: "Nothing in the treaty will change and nothing in the guarantees will change the treaty as your Lordships agreed it."

The discussion on p.ie is instructive in one way: we can see already the sort of lying, brazen fronting-up of this monumental faux pas that we're going to have to listen to.

Read more of what Kinnock said here. It's unequivocal.

http://www.politics.ie/lisbon-treaty/82228-glenys-kinno....html

 #   Title   Author   Date 
   Text of Hansard exchange     Blacbloc    Sat Jul 04, 2009 09:13 
   Hansard clarification     Pro Lisbon Lefty    Sat Jul 04, 2009 10:42 
   Pro Lisbon 'Lefty'     Blacbloc    Sat Jul 04, 2009 11:02 
   Talking of 'left' wingers and the the imposed referendum on Lisbon II     MichaelY    Sat Jul 04, 2009 12:27 
   Further clarification re Hansard     Pro Lisbon Lefty    Sat Jul 04, 2009 18:08 
   What is left and what is right     MichaelY    Sat Jul 04, 2009 19:40 
   dull humid day at the Diogenes club so I pained myself to fish out what their lordships are on about     Rt Hon Iosaf    Sat Jul 04, 2009 21:01 
   FFS Iosaf     Blacbloc    Sat Jul 04, 2009 21:52 
   sorry but I agree with your No to Lisbon but disagree mentioning Mrs Kinnock helps     iosaf    Sat Jul 04, 2009 22:06 
 10   Attacking Ivana     Pro Lisbon Lefty    Sun Jul 05, 2009 10:20 
 11   Still missing the point Iosaf     blacbloc    Sun Jul 05, 2009 11:37 


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