A tribute to the men and women of 1916, and a question about plans for Moore Street

by Save 16 Moore Street - Ógra Shinn Féin Tue Apr 14, 2009 13:25 osfnational at yahoo dot ie

SAVE 16 MOORE STREET ANOIS!

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by francis hughes Tue Apr 14, 2009 20:29

i attended this the other day. I found it to be a breath of fresh air, it was definitly non party political. in fact we could learn from projects like this. If only there could be a joint NON state commemoration every year, instead of the pathetic turn outs for the various splits and sects which makes them look like a small rabble. Most progressives I know rightly dont go to the state ceremony as we all now the vision and ideals of the Proclaimation is not fulfilled. The rest of us may differ on how we get to that goal, but we agree that the state one should not be seen to be the righteous one. it is one thing that all republicans, socialists progressives should link up on.

This particular venture should be commended secondly as it is an example of other areas and communities to take ownership of their heriatage, and value the oral tradition of passing down these local stories, and been able to share them and keep them for future generations. This safeguards them against the revisionists.

Anyway I hope everyone turns out to defend our national monument of 16 Moore St. the wkend.

by Nathuram Wed Apr 15, 2009 19:12

- it was definitly non party political.

It was. The event was put together by the North Inner City Folklore Group, run by Terry Fagan, and was supported by people from all over the political spectrum (including from Fianna Fail) who made common cause on the day to pay their respects to the women and men who faught for Irieland's freedom in the past.

Sadly, the representative from the Workers Party decided to make money off the back of the event by selling Easter Lilies to the assembled crowd, many of whom believed he was raising funds for the event.

He did this in such a way that he wouldn't be seen by the organisers of the event. Maybe he is going to surprise them by making a donation towards their costs.

by Joe Wed Apr 15, 2009 19:35

Is your objection his sale of Easter lilies or just the party he represents? I suspect it is the latter.

by nama Wed Apr 15, 2009 20:29

The objection would be to anyone selling lilies for their own benefit(whether sticky ones or pin on ones) at an event which was not party political.

Any money raised on Monday should have gone to the organisers. Now maybe it did but I doubt it.

by Godsey Thu Apr 16, 2009 08:56

I'm no fan of the Workers Party but perhaps Nathuram McGrath who took lots of photos and filmed the entire event has some photos of the minibus emblazoned with photos of Sinn Féin EU candidate Mary Lou that was parked directly in front of Liberty Hall during the course of proceedings there.

by John O'Neill - None Thu Apr 16, 2009 10:07

It seems strange that whatever WP do it's wrong, its clear from the tin that the lilies are being sold for The National Commeration Committee. He also from what I saw seemed to be giving out more lilies than selling them, I got nearly a full sheet off him for the kids and only stuck a euro in the tin. I would suggest that the money raised was minimal.

Looking at the photos I can't see how you can conclude that he did this in such a way that he would'nt be seen by the organisers, he appears to be doing it quite openly.

I also noticed that doing my usual pub crawl over the weekend in Ballbough and Amiens Street, the only lilies I saw peopel wearing were sticky ones, the same more or less applied to the monday gathering.

I suppose Nathuram will also object to Malachy's 82 year old mother laying the wreath at the GPO for the Folklore group as she has done for a number of years.