Republican Ballad Session .

by Sharon. - Individual . Mon Jun 09, 2008 23:09

Hi !

If you want something done properly , you do it yourself !
I could only locate one photograph of the event , as I wasn't on 'camera duty' myself in the 79'r that night : I was sitting in a corner of the function room working on a raffle that was to be held in Clondalkin the following day (Sunday 8th June) which involved 'booking back' over 600 tickets and double-checking that each returned stub was accompanied by a €2 coin - while I was doing that , another person was taking photographs of the ballad session for use on this thread and elsewhere but , unfortunately , she hadn't got the camera set properly :-( !

However : we had a good crowd , some of whom arrived late due to being distracted by two soccer matches and some others of whom were , unfortunately , 'distracted' by one or more of the nine Special Branch men who had positioned themselves outside the premises. There was a problem with the electrics in the function room caused by one of three reasons : the air-conditioning unit , a dish-washer in one of the kitchens and/or a Special Branch man chewing on the ESB pole outside but the gig went ahead as intended .
The auction items both met their reserve prices and over one-thousand raffle tickets were sold in the hall for the other five items : all-in-all , a good sum of money was raised for the families of republican prisoners , the group , 'Jig' , knew their stuff and everyone enjoyed themselves !
Thanks!

Sharon.

Auction items and raffle prizes , Sat 7th June 08.

by Sharon. - Individual. Mon Jun 09, 2008 17:21

Hi Still Hoping !

The "prevailing orthodoxy" within republicanism remains that which it has always been : you will have to ask those who disagree with that orthodoxy to explain why it is that they dissent from same , as republicans do not claim to speak on behalf of those 'dissidents'.
In relation to 'what word I would use' , that would depend on which group it was that I was questioning but I would not 'load' the question with such a sloppy term as 'dissident' .
And it's not a case of simply saying "Whatever about my choice of words, it is a genuine question." If it was a genuine question it should have been better worded. I , for one , would not attempt to answer any loaded question like that.

Thanks!

Sharon.

by RSF is Sinn Fein Mon Jun 09, 2008 00:32

RSF are Republican, those who have dissented from Republican politics are not them but Gerry Adams and his crew. As for 'somebody mentionng the political feeling of the Volunteers mentioned above they themselves mentioned it, The facts are well known to Republicans/ Do you have any past experiience in the RM at all or have you only been involved with the provos? For a man demanding answers you didnt reply to any put to you.

by still hoping for an answer Sun Jun 08, 2008 23:01

Dissident, to my mind means someone who disagrees with the prevailing orthodoxy. What word would you use? RSF are hardly mainstream are they?

Whatever about my choice of words, it is a genuine question. Any chance somebody could reply?

And to be honest, that's the first I have ever heard about IRA members supporting RSF in the 1980's. If it's true, why didn't somebody mention it at the time?

by Sharon. - Individual . Sun Jun 08, 2008 21:32

Hi 'Another Go' !

I doubt very much that yours is "a genuine question" as your use of the term 'dissident' marks it out , to my mind , as otherwise.
BTW - we had another fantastic night at the ballad session in the 79'r ; it was a busy , dozen-things-to-do-but-enjoyable-night on which I hope to write a brief report as soon as possible . Just as soon as I round-up the pics that were taken by someone who was enjoying themselves even more than I was !

Thanks!

Sharon.

by go away ogra - none Sun Jun 08, 2008 21:13

I take it you didnt like the answer given, but i must correct you Jim Lynagh, Seamus McElwaine amd Padraig McKearney and many other Volunteers WERE allied with RSF.

RSF had strong support among a section ((many would say the ACTIVE section) of the PIRA . They had no time for the adams hartleys and mcguiness's of this world. Most likely wasnt good for their health in hindsight.

Those named and others were well known for their Republican principles which when one has ,one is 'allied' with RSF and the RM.

What else would Repubicans be but supportive of the Republican Movement?

by another go Sat Jun 07, 2008 18:58

As interesting as the notion of RSF holding commemorations for people who were not allied to that organisation is, that fact does not really answer the question.

Has anything happened since 1986, which Republican Sinn Féin supported, that the party commemorates? An operation carried out by one of the dissident armed groups perhaps, a strike or protest of some sort, or maybe a prison break?

It's a genuine question.

by JJ Kelly Sat Jun 07, 2008 03:10

Not a member of RSF but a few families have asked that the provos not go near the graves of their dead family members, Jim Lynagh, Seamus McElwaine amd Padraig McKearney are just what i can think of now that RSF commemorate. Though all those three were very RSF oriented and politically similiar. have also heard (cant confirm however) that a number of families in Armagh whose family members were killed on action post 86 have in the last few months approached RSF to 'take over' the commemorations. Makes sense having Republicans commemorate Republican dead alot more than Stormont politicians.

Best of luck on the ballad night, great to see support for the prisoners.

by ! Sat Jun 07, 2008 01:57

Hi! I have a question!

Does RSF hold commemorations of events that happened after the split from Sinn Fein in 1986?

If so, what events or people are commemorated?

Thanks!

by Sharon. - Individual . Fri Jun 06, 2008 00:05

....for the better!

Hi !

The 'Bobby Sands Memorial Candle' to be auctioned at this gig is actually a set of three separate candles - more info here :
http://11sixtynine.blogsome.com/2008/06/05/update-on-ba...tems/

Thanks!

Sharon.

Three Memorial Candles to be auctioned as one item.

by Sharon. - Individual . Wed Jun 04, 2008 19:38

Hi Interested !

The Cabhair organisation has local committees and/or fund-raising support groups throughout the country and at least one Cabhair rep will be present at the gig on Saturday night - any of the lads doing the door will be glad to get someone to have a chat with you .

Thanks!

Sharon.

by intrested Wed Jun 04, 2008 15:58

Does Cabhair have local committees or how does it operate? Will there be any information available on how to get involved on the night?

by Sharon. - Individual . Wed Jun 04, 2008 13:16

Hi Des !

Thanks for that - much appreciated .
We're getting a fantastic re-action to this function - the ballad group 'Jig' obviously have their own fans and huge interest also in the raffle prizes on offer , especially the Bobby Sands memorial candle and the bodhron's .
It's shaping up to be another great night - the local 'Echo' newspaper , which published a full page of pics and a wee bit of a write-up following our last session in the 79'r have indicated that one of its photographers will again be calling in on the night!

Yourself and herself may yet end up on Page 3 , Des !

Thanks again ,

Sharon.

by Des Tue Jun 03, 2008 11:33

good few of us from clondalkin went to the last gig in the 79r and we're going to this one as well
it was a great atmosphere and good craic the last time
see yis sat nite

by Sharon. - Individual . Tue Jun 03, 2008 08:30

Hi Maitiu !

Thanks for that comment - and you're right : the last session was a right lively night out!
This one is heading in the same direction - advance ticket sales are up , raffle prizes are as good as those on offer before and interest in the function is high.
Fifty tickets have been kept back for sale at the door on the night ,so no-one should be disappointed .

See you there !

Thanks,

Sharon.

by maitiu Mon Jun 02, 2008 19:16

I was at the last session in the 79'r it was a fantastic night. great ballads and grate prizes.

by Sharon. - Individual . Mon Jun 02, 2008 17:37

Hi !

Seven items have been donated by supporters to be used as seen fit by the organisers on the night of this ballad session -

Two republican bodhron's ;
Two framed 1916 Proclamations;
One Bobby Sands memorial candle;
One republican t-shirt and
One bottle of booze!

Five of those items (both Proclamations , one bodhron , the t-shirt and the bottle of booze) will be up for grabs as raffle prizes : if you have a winner you pick one of those five items - raffle tickets will be sold on the night at 5 tickets for €2 or 15 tickets for a fiver .
The other two items (the Celtic bodhron and the Bobby Sands memorial candle) will be auctioned on the night - please note that €100 has already been offered for the Celtic bodhron).

Admission tickets (€5) are available from the usual sources in the Clondalkin/Ballyfermot/Inchicore area and are also available at the door on the night.
Hope to see the usual crowd - and some new faces! - there on the night !

Thanks,

Sharon.

Two bodhrons : one for the raffle , one to be auctioned.

Raffle prizes : 2 framed 1916 Proclamations.

Bobby Sands memorial candle - for auction.

Republican t-shirt - raffle prize.