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category national | history and heritage | news report author Friday November 11, 2005 13:05author by S.Catauthor email STRIPEYCAT at MAIL dot COM Report this post to the editors

Call Google Ireland - 01 436 1000

Will we see a lily at Easter?

My grandfather fought in the first world war. He was in the Munster Fusiliers and fought in France and Belgium, and also at Gallipoli. I have no problem with people commemorating the first World War, and the many Irish men and women who were caught up in it.

But I do have a problem with the Red Poppy, which is the symbol of the British Legion. As another contributor to this site recently put it:

"[The Poppy] is worn to commemorate ALL of Britain's acts of war since the Great Slaughter of 1914-18- and that includes the Black and Tan War, Bloody Sunday, the invasion of Iraq, and the Dublin and Monaghan bombings. If you want to wear a poppy, do so by all means. Just be sure you know what it stands for"

So I think it's amazing that a supposedly neutral Internet Search Engine like Google should plaster a symbol associated with the British Army on the front page of its Irish site.
Google's logo as displayed on Google.ie today
Google's logo as displayed on Google.ie today

Troops who carried out actions against the civilian population in Ireland- from the massacres of ordinary citizens around Smithfield in 1916 to the murder of Karen Reilly and Martin Peake by paratroopers in Belfast a few years ago- are honoured and supported by the British legion.

The two soldiers who murdered Peter McBride and are still serving in the British army are honoured by the British legion through the sale and distribution of poppies.

As an Irish citizen, I want nothing to do with them.

Of course people should be allowed to wear what they like, within reason, but some things can be offensive and I don't think an internet company really has any business making such a crass political point. I think it also calls into question their judgment, if they know so little about the market they operate in.

I called Google and asked them about it. They referred me to their support page. When I told them I was going to put something up on Indymedia and they put me through to a press spokesperson who told me that it was because Google.ie is linked to Google.co.uk (I didn't know this, did you?), and that it was all about remembering the Irish war dead from World War One. When I pointed out that the British Legion use the Poppy to commemorate all British Soldiers in all conflicts -including Bloody Sunday- I was told that I would be called back.

I wonder if we'll see Google.ie display an Easter Lily next April? Can you imagine if they put one up on Google.co.uk at the same time?

I don't expect I'll ever get a call back from Google, but if you want to talk to them about it -here's their number in Dublin-
01-4361000.

Related Link: http://www.google.ie
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 #   Title   Author   Date 
 1   relax your ass     juan pablo    Fri Nov 11, 2005 13:16 
 2   peace poppy     pat c    Fri Nov 11, 2005 13:20 
 3   x     x    Fri Nov 11, 2005 13:21 
 4   complaint     pat c    Fri Nov 11, 2005 13:25 
 5   hmmm.     iosaf    Fri Nov 11, 2005 13:30 
 6   the poppys gone     heidi    Fri Nov 11, 2005 13:30 
 7   x     pat c    Fri Nov 11, 2005 13:32 
 8   wow spoke too soon.     iosaf    Fri Nov 11, 2005 13:35 
 9   Nope, taken down     seedot    Fri Nov 11, 2005 13:38 
 10   Wow quick     anon    Fri Nov 11, 2005 13:43 
 11   Googler     Seriously    Fri Nov 11, 2005 13:55 
 12   seriously     pat c    Fri Nov 11, 2005 13:58 
 13   Enough to know they Died.     iosaf    Fri Nov 11, 2005 13:59 
 14   iosaf     pat c    Fri Nov 11, 2005 14:06 
 15   oration     alex maskey    Fri Nov 11, 2005 14:14 
 16   Why would google not pay attention to Indy?     seedot    Fri Nov 11, 2005 14:18 
 17   Wear Nothing     Mark C    Fri Nov 11, 2005 14:26 
 18   “Leaving for the front”     iosaf    Fri Nov 11, 2005 14:31 
 19   mark     pat c    Fri Nov 11, 2005 14:31 
 20   May all your troubles be little     A10    Fri Nov 11, 2005 15:16 
 21   A10     A11    Fri Nov 11, 2005 15:20 
 22   and now we'll turn to hymn number-     iosaf    Fri Nov 11, 2005 15:42 
 23   Easter Lily     StripeyCat    Fri Nov 11, 2005 15:51 
 24   well done     pat c    Fri Nov 11, 2005 15:55 
 25   Kids! put aside your burning ambition and forget the price of petrol for a moment.     iosaf    Fri Nov 11, 2005 16:13 
 26   no more love hath a man...     io    Fri Nov 11, 2005 16:26 
 27   we don't know how many said "no!" to their love, king, kaiser, czar or emperor.     iosaf    Fri Nov 11, 2005 16:50 
 28   We do not know how many of those     iosaf tootle too!    Fri Nov 11, 2005 18:26 
 29   ironically dead. Francis Ledgewedge & Tomas Mac Donagh 1916-1917     iosaf    Fri Nov 11, 2005 19:05 
 30   Derry and Google     Booms    Sat Nov 12, 2005 09:54 
 31   Why we should fly the Union Jack     Eoin Harass    Sun Nov 13, 2005 15:41 
 32   Email Campaign     P O Neil    Mon Nov 14, 2005 15:03 
 33   An Chéad Cogadh Domhanda?     Duine    Mon Nov 14, 2005 15:22 
 34   the poppy     dave rosson    Tue Nov 15, 2005 16:56 
 35   An Chailleach Dhearg agus léinteáin agus Náire?     Duine    Tue Nov 15, 2005 17:43 
 36   Horrible oppression by English Football League     R. Isible    Tue Nov 15, 2005 17:53 
 37   Re: occupation     left-winger    Tue Nov 15, 2005 18:15 
 38   Is The Panel an Irish show?     BRéNOC    Tue Nov 15, 2005 18:38 
 39   Aoir?     Duine    Tue Nov 15, 2005 18:41 
 40   Rememberance poppies     Anne Hetherington    Wed Nov 16, 2005 15:50 
 41   Poppies     pat c    Wed Nov 16, 2005 15:53 
 42   poppy     Derek    Thu Nov 17, 2005 22:53 
 43   poppy     pat c    Fri Nov 18, 2005 10:59 
 44   Did _you_ actually wear a white peace poppy?     very curious    Fri Nov 18, 2005 11:06 
 45   Red poppy should NOT have been put up on www.google.ie     Aine Mcardle    Sat Nov 19, 2005 01:24 
 46   to pat     Derek    Sat Nov 19, 2005 17:08 
 47   derek     pat c    Sat Nov 19, 2005 18:20 
 48   rememberance day poppy     paddy o'c    Fri Dec 08, 2006 18:07 
 49   Conscience troubling you ?     Sharon .    Fri Dec 08, 2006 21:32 
 50   Or as PH Pearse put it so poetically ...     in vino veritas    Sat Dec 09, 2006 17:42 
 51   in vino not so veritas     pat c    Sun Dec 10, 2006 18:21 
 52   Were they forced ?     in vino semper veritas    Sun Dec 10, 2006 20:32 
 53   vino     pat c    Sun Dec 10, 2006 20:42 
 54   Re. "tens of thousands of irishmen died in an imperialist folly"     the wineful truth    Sun Dec 10, 2006 20:43 
 55   the german socialists voted for the war     its true    Sun Dec 10, 2006 20:46 
 56   the wineful truth     pat c    Sun Dec 10, 2006 21:00 
 57   Google's Poppy Mania - Down with that sort of thing!     Jacqueline Fallon    Sun Dec 10, 2006 21:49 
 58   Google silent on this issue .     Sharon .    Sun Dec 10, 2006 23:17 
 59   Why silence over Easter Lily? (and they being so fond of flowers!)     Jacqueline Fallon    Mon Dec 11, 2006 01:54 
 60   Let Us Now Praise Fallen Men . . . . .     Fred Johnston    Mon Dec 11, 2006 19:59 
 61   wrong, wrong, wrong     Dave Walker    Mon Dec 11, 2006 20:30 
 62   The poppy is an attempt to applaud imperialism .     Sharon .    Mon Dec 11, 2006 23:13 
 63   For my part ...     in vino veritas    Tue Dec 12, 2006 09:15 
 64   Be careful the colours don't clash !     Sharon .    Tue Dec 12, 2006 10:08 
 65   Nothing worse than a boring rebuttal     Fred Johnston    Tue Dec 12, 2006 16:07 
 66   a simple question     Dave Walker    Tue Dec 12, 2006 17:00 
 67   Immature post worse than boring rebuttal !     Sharon .    Tue Dec 12, 2006 18:55 
 68   'You and your poppy should stay on the shore'????     Fred Johnston    Tue Dec 12, 2006 19:08 
 69   'Depth/Shore' - make the connection .     Sharon .    Tue Dec 12, 2006 20:12 
 70   Give me strength!     Fred Johnston    Wed Dec 13, 2006 15:53 
 71   Fred     Caobhin    Wed Dec 13, 2006 16:33 
 72   'Beckham' and balls !     Sharon .    Wed Dec 13, 2006 16:46 
 73   Sorry to interrupt     Confused    Wed Dec 13, 2006 20:02 
 74   Not all things Irish are 'anti-British' .     Sharon .    Wed Dec 13, 2006 23:17 
 75   Red Poppy     Ian Jackson    Fri Nov 02, 2007 23:58 
 76   appropriate song     Bemused    Sat Nov 03, 2007 04:07 
 77   Political Poppy .     Sharon .    Sat Nov 03, 2007 11:00 
 78   Power of the written word     kal-el    Sat Nov 03, 2007 11:24 
 79   fuck I forgot the remembrance subvert another year.     io    Sat Nov 03, 2007 18:22 
 80   the fallen     memento mori    Sun Nov 04, 2007 12:44 
 81   thats the legacy of colonialism     Barry    Sun Nov 04, 2007 17:35 
 82   bitter fact     memento mori    Sun Nov 04, 2007 19:27 
 83   conclusio     memento mori    Sun Nov 04, 2007 19:31 
 84   saved from what ?     Barry    Sun Nov 04, 2007 20:21 
 85   Expansionism     Frank    Sun Nov 04, 2007 23:26 
 86   more honesty     Barry    Mon Nov 05, 2007 01:38 
 87   Russian Convoy's     War Monger    Mon Nov 05, 2007 05:02 
 88   Distorted war history     Cal    Mon Nov 05, 2007 05:23 
 89   history     memento mori    Mon Nov 05, 2007 08:59 
 90   A white-blue and red-washing of historical realities.     Kal-el    Mon Nov 05, 2007 10:31 
 91   What won the war     Columb    Mon Nov 05, 2007 12:53 
 92   Dirty business     Noel    Mon Nov 05, 2007 15:12 
 93   chocks away ginger...take that you beastly hun !!     Barry    Mon Nov 05, 2007 19:05 
 94   What are you taking about Noel     kal-el    Mon Nov 05, 2007 19:09 
 95   dear google     jesus    Mon Nov 05, 2007 19:22 
 96   Anglophilia?     RICKY    Mon Nov 05, 2007 19:37 
 97   Expect nothing less from the OO     kal-el    Mon Nov 05, 2007 20:36 
 98   History available to all     RICKY    Mon Nov 05, 2007 21:54 
 99   Estimated?     Columb    Mon Nov 05, 2007 23:50 
 100   history and rememberance     memento mori    Tue Nov 06, 2007 18:30 
 101   "Free" State...     Sharon.    Tue Nov 06, 2007 21:10 
 102   Atomic detonation saviour     RICKY    Tue Nov 06, 2007 21:28 
 103   Combatants and non-combatants     Columb    Wed Nov 07, 2007 08:29 
 104   wrong     memento mori    Wed Nov 07, 2007 13:28 
 105   endgame     memento mori    Wed Nov 07, 2007 20:08 
 106   so what ?     Barry    Wed Nov 07, 2007 23:21 
 107   Wear A Peace Poppy     pat c    Thu Nov 08, 2007 14:52 
 108   Documents on atomic bomb decision     Columb    Thu Nov 08, 2007 16:55 
 109   Response to Barry     RICKY    Thu Nov 08, 2007 22:37 
 110   Atrocity arithmetic     Columb    Thu Nov 08, 2007 23:16 
 111   poppies     memento mori    Fri Nov 09, 2007 13:29 
 112   Google puts a Shamrock on the front page     what have they done for you lately    Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:55 
 113   Easter Lily     Seaicilín F    Mon Mar 17, 2008 15:35 
 114   Poppy Google     Ambiorix    Sat Nov 08, 2008 11:43 
 115   no marks     bruxelles    Sat Nov 08, 2008 13:26 
 116   The display of the poppy     Fred Johnston    Sat Nov 08, 2008 17:34 
 117   dear Fred     s.c.    Sun Nov 09, 2008 01:25 
 118   White feather for you, 's.c.'     Fred Johnston    Mon Nov 10, 2008 03:41 
 119   "Southern Ireland" a new state?     Plato    Mon Nov 10, 2008 08:23 
 120   suggestion     s.c.    Mon Nov 10, 2008 14:33 
 121   contradicton     Shay    Mon Nov 10, 2008 15:12 
 122   Wear Your Poppy with Pride     Fred Johnston    Mon Nov 10, 2008 18:29 
 123   getting worse     witness    Mon Nov 10, 2008 22:32 
 124   Sad To See     Optomistic    Tue Nov 11, 2008 00:20 
 125   Ed "Poppy" Walshe     Irish eyes    Tue Nov 11, 2008 02:22 
 126   Poppy no poppy     Yellow Haired Lady    Tue Nov 11, 2008 23:31 
 127   'Yellow-Haired Lady'     Fred Johnston    Wed Nov 12, 2008 03:20 
 128   No association with BA     Plato    Wed Nov 12, 2008 08:17 
 129   Re: your latest nonsense     Yellow Haired Lady    Wed Nov 12, 2008 12:48 
 130   Lest we forget....those of us who can see at least....     Red Haired Man    Thu Nov 13, 2008 14:18 
 131   Red Haired Man     Yellow Haired Lady    Thu Nov 13, 2008 15:22 
 132   Google, pages from Ireland     Madra Rua    Tue Dec 16, 2008 12:25 
 133   Symbol     Pgibson    Tue Dec 16, 2008 15:57 
 134   P Gibson     s    Tue Dec 16, 2008 17:21 


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