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Wentwoth not coming to Trinity - No platform won!

category dublin | miscellaneous | news report author Thursday November 13, 2003 20:22author by I hate the hist! Report this post to the editors

No platform very successful in Trinity!

It was revealed last Tuesday that the invitation issued to Tony Wentworth chairman of the Young BNP was withdrawn by Trinity College due to the opposition of students and the likelyhood of a major protest involving the left, trade unions, and many other concerned individuals.

A campaign against wentworth speaking in Trinity and arguing for NO platform had already developed with, SF( I wasnt aware of the SF persons name) The SP (Shane Kenna), SWP (Connor Kostick), Residents against racism, leading members of the College including Ivana Bacik giving their support and some independents playing a leading role in building opposition.

Outside the college it was a known fact that certain groups were actively organising for the meeting.

Many academic staff had signed a letter indicating their displeasure at the invite of a hardened fascist to Trinity, also the security staff were oppossed to his visit.

The "Phil" who had invited Mr.Wentworth over had argued that people should make their own minds up about this man, and that generally he would probally make a fool of himself.

author by Steeliepublication date Mon Nov 17, 2003 15:59author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Make up your own mind about traitors. I'm sure you have some neural matter up there somewhere.

author by sammypublication date Mon Nov 17, 2003 15:50author address author phone Report this post to the editors

who decides who is a traitor. Fintan Lane, Mick Barry???

author by frank ryanpublication date Sat Nov 15, 2003 22:02author address author phone Report this post to the editors

"While we have fists, hands and boots to use, and guns if necessary, we will not allow free speech to traitors."

Related Link: http://www.hoganstand.com/general/identity/stories/growingup.htm
author by omega supremepublication date Sat Nov 15, 2003 20:58author address author phone Report this post to the editors

If you only want to stop fascists from speaking why did you want the democratic BNP stopped from talking?!!!
I've already pointed out the differences on the original tread and how you trend lefties are jealous of them.

author by Denis Keoghpublication date Sat Nov 15, 2003 02:55author address author phone Report this post to the editors

He/she/it titles his rant "Shut up Keogh! you're talking shite!".

This from a free speech loving communist.

Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, the defence rests.

author by Lone gunmanpublication date Fri Nov 14, 2003 20:57author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Bet that makes Alexender Solishyhien[sic] and numerous other writers of the former East blocks who dared to write anything off cue of the free speech loving socialist govts,all liars then??
Socialists are not much better than their hard core commie brothers .Ditto facists and Nazis.
Neither group should be allowed free speech.

author by angry liberalpublication date Fri Nov 14, 2003 11:50author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Facists are DIFFERENT?I thought it was people like the BNP who went around calling people different and putting them in different "special" categories.It is unfortunate to see that the BNP have had some influence,causing you to copy them.

author by Degeneratepublication date Fri Nov 14, 2003 11:50author address author phone Report this post to the editors

I like it - "Socialists and the SWP."

Highlight the difference, who knows it might catch on.

author by naziwatchpublication date Fri Nov 14, 2003 11:42author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Fascists want to smash freedom of speech. Socialists and the SWP do not. Socialists and the SWP defend freedom of speech for everyone but fascists including FF, FG, PD, Labour, Green, SF, RSF, and all the right wing micro parties. But Fascists are a different kettle of fish, they are not interested in polite debate or in democracy. They want to smash democracy, thery want to expel all immigrants, they deny the holocaust happened, they want a pure white race, they want to smash trade unions.

author by econimic migrantpublication date Fri Nov 14, 2003 09:02author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Yea shut those commie's up i sick of there bleating like so many sma sheep.

Get real mate you cant shut the commies up, the Tsar found that out (why is there such a historical feel about indymedia today) Have to say i that i'd preffer to stay in a mad bad capatilist world than a cummunist dictaorship of central commitee and secret police, even though its shit as well.

author by Denis Keoghpublication date Fri Nov 14, 2003 02:26author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Who are they to deicide on behalf of the "workers" wh othey can and can't listen to.

It's Stalinism.

I am going to lead protests the next time a member of the SWP is invited to speak. They incite hatred too, in a more incidious way, by provoking "class warfare".

Time to censor the communists too.

author by cabhogpublication date Thu Nov 13, 2003 22:53author address author phone Report this post to the editors

If these people were fascist, who is their leader considering all fascists are based around a leader? Maybe their just racists? fascism has an idology associated with it, not just racism, but corporatism, cult of the leader, militarism, etc

author by anti-fascist republicanpublication date Thu Nov 13, 2003 22:12author address author phone Report this post to the editors

The SF speaker was former Trinity student Kilian Forde.

Also at the meeting was a fascist spy. Guy sitting at front with the poppy,black hooded sweatshirt, and tight cut blondish hair. don't know his name but a trinity lecturer pointed out problems he has created before and said he is a undergrad student.

author by Bobbypublication date Thu Nov 13, 2003 21:10author address author phone Report this post to the editors

here i am again to bore, or be censored. The supression of anyone's right to free speech is a disgrace and the perpetual reincarnation of the facist-leftist pitched battles of the past, which the various socialist groups seek is their fatal flaw. You will never (NEVER) progress beyond the margins until you can accept dialogue.

No free speech for facists.
We refuse to share a forum with facists
etc etc

Remeber you decide who is a facist. Who ever conferred you with such an absolute power???

Absolute power = facism

ENJOY THE WILDERNESS

author by Random Inputpublication date Thu Nov 13, 2003 20:53author address author phone Report this post to the editors

well done to youse all.

author by Shane Kenna - Trinity SPpublication date Thu Nov 13, 2003 20:46author email socialist_tcd at hotmail dot comauthor address author phone Report this post to the editors

But I have to say that there were key activists in the Campaign who done outstanding work more so than anyone else (in hindsight far more than I or anyone else in the campaign did) and without them the campaign wouldn't have been such a success within Trinity. These were (I have omitted surnames for privacy's sake but if they are on line and reading this they will know who they are)Rosanna, Vanessa,Matt and Jennifer.

We all played a key role in this campaign to coin a phrase everyone anti fascist or otherwise had a role - we had made it clear that no single individual nor organisation can take credit for the success of this campaign.

To all those involved well done and thanks!

author by Chekovpublication date Thu Nov 13, 2003 20:28author address author phone Report this post to the editors

One minor point is to note that the WSM and the Trinity Anarchist Society were also involved in building for the mobilisation against the fash. Although fair play to Connor and Shane in particular as I got the impression that they were doing the bulk of the work. By the way, is Connor still a member of the SWP, since I didn't think that the SWSS was part of the no-platform crowd?

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