Upcoming Events

National | Miscellaneous

no events match your query!

Blog Feeds

Public Inquiry
Interested in maladministration. Estd. 2005

offsite link RTEs Sarah McInerney ? Fianna Fail?supporter? Anthony

offsite link Joe Duffy is dishonest and untrustworthy Anthony

offsite link Robert Watt complaint: Time for decision by SIPO Anthony

offsite link RTE in breach of its own editorial principles Anthony

offsite link Waiting for SIPO Anthony

Public Inquiry >>

Human Rights in Ireland
Indymedia Ireland is a volunteer-run non-commercial open publishing website for local and international news, opinion & analysis, press releases and events. Its main objective is to enable the public to participate in reporting and analysis of the news and other important events and aspects of our daily lives and thereby give a voice to people.

offsite link Trump hosts former head of Syrian Al-Qaeda Al-Jolani to the White House Tue Nov 11, 2025 22:01 | imc

offsite link Rip The Chicken Tree - 1800s - 2025 Tue Nov 04, 2025 03:40 | Mark

offsite link Study of 1.7 Million Children: Heart Damage Only Found in Covid-Vaxxed Kids Sat Nov 01, 2025 00:44 | imc

offsite link The Golden Haro Fri Oct 31, 2025 12:39 | Paul Ryan

offsite link Top Scientists Confirm Covid Shots Cause Heart Attacks in Children Sun Oct 05, 2025 21:31 | imc

Human Rights in Ireland >>

Lockdown Skeptics

The Daily Sceptic

offsite link British TV Comedy Has Lost its Class Sat Nov 22, 2025 17:00 | Finlay McLaren
The BBC's Director of Comedy wants to "save the sitcom". But the sitcom is only endangered because most of them stopped being funny. As To the Manor Born reminds us, British comedy has lost its class, says Finlay McLaren.
The post British TV Comedy Has Lost its Class appeared first on The Daily Sceptic.

offsite link Is the Era of Cheap Internet Surveys Over? Sat Nov 22, 2025 15:00 | Noah Carl
Is the era of cheap internet surveys over? A new paper demonstrates that AIs can now be "trivially programmed" to answer online surveys in ways that are essentially indistinguishable from humans.
The post Is the Era of Cheap Internet Surveys Over? appeared first on The Daily Sceptic.

offsite link Thank Lockdowns for the Worst Budget in History Sat Nov 22, 2025 13:00 | Will Jones
We're a week away from the most painful Budget in history thanks largely to the eye-watering cost of lockdown. Yet Baroness Hallett says next time the Government must be ready to go harder and faster. This is insanity.
The post Thank Lockdowns for the Worst Budget in History appeared first on The Daily Sceptic.

offsite link Taxpayers Are Charged for the BBC Whether They Like it or Not Sat Nov 22, 2025 11:00 | Charlotte Gill
It's bad enough that all UK TV users are forced to fund the BBC via a TV licence. But it's worse than that, says Charlotte Gill: millions of pounds of taxpayers' money are handed to the corporation via backdoor channels.
The post Taxpayers Are Charged for the BBC Whether They Like it or Not appeared first on The Daily Sceptic.

offsite link CPS Appeals Against Acquittal of Hamit Coskun for Burning Quran Sat Nov 22, 2025 09:00 | Will Jones
The Crown Prosecution Service is appealing against the acquittal of Hamit Coskun, who was convicted of burning the Quran in a protest, reigniting fears Britain could introduce blasphemy laws by the back door.
The post CPS Appeals Against Acquittal of Hamit Coskun for Burning Quran appeared first on The Daily Sceptic.

Lockdown Skeptics >>

Voltaire Network
Voltaire, international edition

offsite link Will intergovernmental institutions withstand the end of the "American Empire"?,... Sat Apr 05, 2025 07:15 | en

offsite link Voltaire, International Newsletter N?127 Sat Apr 05, 2025 06:38 | en

offsite link Disintegration of Western democracy begins in France Sat Apr 05, 2025 06:00 | en

offsite link Voltaire, International Newsletter N?126 Fri Mar 28, 2025 11:39 | en

offsite link The International Conference on Combating Anti-Semitism by Amichai Chikli and Na... Fri Mar 28, 2025 11:31 | en

Voltaire Network >>

The Next War: USA pushes to 'destabilize' Iran

category national | miscellaneous | news report author Monday May 26, 2003 00:59author by Winston Smith Report this post to the editors

sorry for posting the whole thing - but this needs to be read - will Shannon be used for this war too? why does one even have to ask the question?

Published on Sunday, May 25, 2003 by the Washington Post
U.S. Eyes Pressing Uprising In Iran
by Glenn Kessler

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0525-01.htm


The Bush administration, alarmed by intelligence suggesting that al Qaeda operatives in Iran had a role in the May 12 suicide bombings in Saudi Arabia, has suspended once-promising contacts with Iran and appears ready to embrace an aggressive policy of trying to destabilize the Iranian government, administration officials said.

Senior Bush administration officials will meet Tuesday at the White House to discuss the evolving strategy toward the Islamic republic, with Pentagon officials pressing hard for public and private actions that they believe could lead to the toppling of the government through a popular uprising, officials said.

The State Department, which had encouraged some form of engagement with the Iranians, appears inclined to accept such a policy, especially if Iran does not take any visible steps to deal with the suspected al Qaeda operatives before Tuesday, officials said. But State Department officials are concerned that the level of popular discontent there is much lower than Pentagon officials believe, leading to the possibility that U.S. efforts could ultimately discredit reformers in Iran.

In any case, the Saudi Arabia bombings have ended the tentative signs of engagement between Iran and the United States that had emerged during the wars against Afghanistan and Iraq.

U.S. and Iranian officials had met periodically to discuss issues of mutual concern, including search-and-rescue missions and the tracking down of al Qaeda operatives. But, after the suicide bombings at three residential compounds in Riyadh, the Bush administration canceled the next planned meeting.

"We're headed down the same path of the last 20 years," one State Department official said. "An inflexible, unimaginative policy of just say no."

U.S. officials have also been deeply concerned about Iran's nuclear weapons program, which has the support of both elected reformers and conservative clerics. The Bush administration has pressed the International Atomic Energy Agency, the U.N. nuclear watchdog, to issue a critical report next month on Iran's nuclear activities. Officials have sought to convince Russia and China -- two major suppliers of Iran's nuclear power program -- that Iran is determined to possess nuclear weapons, a campaign that one U.S. official said is winning support.

But a major factor in the new stance toward Iran consists of what have been called "very troubling intercepts" before and after the Riyadh attacks, which killed 34 people, including nine suicide bombers. The intercepts suggested that al Qaeda operatives in Iran were involved in the planning of the bombings.

Earlier this week, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld accused Iran of harboring al Qaeda members. "There's no question but that there have been and are today senior al Qaeda leaders in Iran, and they are busy," Rumsfeld said. Iranian officials, however, have vehemently denied that they have granted al Qaeda leaders safe haven in the country.

Until the Saudi bombings, some officials said, Iran had been relatively cooperative on al Qaeda. Since the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, Iran has turned over al Qaeda officials to Saudi Arabia and Afghanistan. In talks, U.S. officials had repeatedly warned Iranian officials that if any al Qaeda operatives in Iran are implicated in attacks against Americans, it would have serious consequences for relations between the two countries.

Those talks, however, were held with representatives of Iran's foreign ministry. Other parts of the Iranian government are controlled not by elected reformers, but by conservative mullahs.

A senior administration official who is skeptical of the Pentagon's arguments said most of the al Qaeda members -- fewer than a dozen -- appear to be located in an isolated area of northeastern Iran, near the border with Afghanistan. He described the area as a drug-smuggling terrorist haven that is tolerated by key members of the Revolutionary Guards in part because they skim money off some of the activities there. It is not clear how much control the central Iranian government has over this area, he said.

"I don't think the elected government knows much about it," he said. "Why should you punish the rest of Iran," he asked, just because the government cannot act in this area?

Flynt Leverett, who recently left the White House to join the Brookings Institution's Saban Center for Middle East Policy, said the administration may be taking a gamble. "It is imprudent to assume that the Islamic Republic will collapse like a house of cards in a time frame that is going to be meaningful to us," he said. "What it means is we will end up with an Iran that has nuclear weapons and no dialogue with the United States with regard to our terrorist concerns."

Ever since President Bush labeled Iran last year as part of an "axis of evil" -- along with North Korea and Iraq -- the administration has struggled to define its policy toward the Islamic republic, which terminated relations with the United States after Iran's 1979 revolution. The administration never formally adopted a policy of "regime change," but it also never seriously tried to establish a dialogue.

In July, Bush signaled a harder line when he issued a strongly worded presidential statement in which he praised large pro-democracy street demonstrations in Iran. Administration officials said at the time that they had abandoned any hope of working with President Mohammad Khatami and his reformist allies in the Iranian government, and would turn their attention toward democracy supporters among the Iranian people.

But the prospect of war with Iraq reopened some discreet contacts, which took place under U.N. supervision in Europe. The contacts encouraged some in the State Department to believe that there was an opening for greater cooperation.

In an interview in February with the Los Angeles Times, Deputy Secretary of State Richard L. Armitage drew a distinction between the confrontational approach the administration had taken with Iraq and North Korea and the approach it had adopted with Iran. "The axis of evil was a valid comment, [but] I would note there's one dramatic difference between Iran and the other two axes of evil, and that would be its democracy. [And] you approach a democracy differently," Armitage said.

At one of the meetings, in early January, the United States signaled that it would target the Iraq-based camps of the Mujaheddin-e Khalq (MEK), or People's Mujaheddin, a major group opposing the Iranian government.

The MEK soon became caught up in the policy struggle between the State Department and the Pentagon.

After the camps were bombed, the U.S. military arranged a cease-fire with the group, infuriating the Iranians. Some Pentagon officials, impressed by the military discipline and equipment of the thousands of MEK troops, began to envision them as a potential military force for use against Tehran, much like the Northern Alliance in Afghanistan.

But the MEK is also listed as a terrorist organization by the State Department. Under pressure from State, the White House earlier this month ordered the Pentagon to disarm the MEK troops -- a decision that was secretly conveyed by U.S. officials to Iranian representatives at a meeting in Geneva on May 3.

Nine days later, the suicide bombers struck in Saudi Arabia.

© 2003 The Washington Post Company

###

author by Analystpublication date Mon May 26, 2003 12:23author address author phone Report this post to the editors

If you notice the timing of the Saudi bombing straight after the Iraqi war and the
unfolding the disaster there, combined with it coming at the end of a week long visit
by Powell to the region, which got huge coverage in the US, then these bombings came
at an opportune time for the US. All of a sudden after a long break, AlQaeda is all over
the media again. This fits in with the objective of seizing the Saudi oil fields in the
near future and plans to attack Iran.

Notice the way the article links the US administration's justification for destablizing
Iran to AlQaeda and straight back to the Saudi bombings. If you went to the theatre, you
wouldn't find anything so well choreographed. The US clearly have double agents in AlQaeda
running lower ranking foot soldiers, or at least agents controlling the mid-level ones,
and thus open up 'spaces' to allow these attacks to go forward.

It is insane to believe that the US do NOT have agents in the AlQaeda network either through
their proxies in Mossad or Pakistan intelligence or other agencies. The US loves to let you
know that it is strong on technological intelligence, but weak on 'humint' or human
intelligence. Maybe they are themselves, but their proxies certainly ain't.

The bottom line, is that we are more or less at peak oil and the US admininstration knows
that. By seizing all those regions with most of the oil and simultaneously breaking the back
of OPEC, the US will control the situation from now on. The US can also make the oil last
much longer, by simply denying it, or reducing the quantity dramatically to other major
economic regions (e.g. Japan, EU) and thus it has more for itself, and thus it lasts longer
for them at least. We also know the dollar is in crisis, because of the mounting $6 trillion
debt. By taking the oil, the US can effectively force everyone to pay the US directly for the
oil, which should help them. Naturally they will make some token efforts to hide this by
pretending it is going into a trust for the Iraqi people, and possibly quite soon, likewise
for the Saudi's and maybe even Iranians.

Now all they need is to provoke the North Koreas into a situation, where they can justify a limited
nuclear strike against them, thereby breaking the nuclear weapon taboo, and in effect letting
everyone know, what a big stick they have and that they will use it, so they better get used to
the way things are run around here, from now on.

author by meatpublication date Mon May 26, 2003 13:03author address author phone Report this post to the editors

''It is insane to believe that the US do NOT have agents in the AlQaeda network either through
their proxies in Mossad or Pakistan intelligence or other agencies.''

an Al Queda Stakeknife?

author by paul cpublication date Mon May 26, 2003 14:13author address author phone Report this post to the editors

a country or create or promote a popular uprising that doesn't just get a lot of joe soaps killed
?

author by Gasillimhedpublication date Mon May 26, 2003 16:30author address author phone Report this post to the editors

im not exactly sure what you mean paul c, but you hardly think that the new US empire cares about the death of innocents, the old one didnt, and its new incarnation has shown nothing but contempt for human rights and morals.

author by Mauberepublication date Tue May 27, 2003 00:10author address author phone Report this post to the editors

King George might try to "destabalise" Iran by promoting self-determination for the Azerbaijani and Kurdish people in north-west Iran. Of couse they should have the same rights as the rest of us but the US would promote the most right-wing elements of the two minorities.

author by MGpublication date Tue May 27, 2003 10:46author address author phone Report this post to the editors

The Bush admin is already "preparing the ground" for a war against Iran. Firstly, the incredibly dumb US public will be brainwashed into believing that Iran is actually Osama bin Laden in disguise. This has already begun...

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/05/27/international/middleeast/27IRAN.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/05/26/international/middleeast/26IRAN.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/05/25/international/middleeast/25CND-IRAN.html

However, Bush and his lickspittles in the US media appear to be getting lazy. The above stories appeared on three consecutive days (Today, yesterday, Sunday). This is the most blatant, see-through propaganda campaign I've spotted in a long while. The "conditioning" of the feeble US mind usually takes place slowly and over a period of time, until every dumb American thinks Saddam Hussein is just Osama with his beard shaved off.

However, this time, they couldn't be bothered with sophistication. The ease with which Bush and co. went to war with Iraq was partly due to the immense stupidity of the American public and its willingness to believe that al-Qa'ida and Saddam were working together, when anyone with a brain knows they are enemies. Expect the US and Brit media to carry many more stories linking Iran and al-Qa'ida. I predict a US/Brit invasion of Iran by the end of 2004.

author by Analystpublication date Tue May 27, 2003 17:31author address author phone Report this post to the editors

See related link.
http://www.larouchepub.com/eiw/public/2003/2003_20-29/2003-20/this_wk.html#Anchor-Th-5495

It is EIR's assessment, at this time, that the hideously destructive terrorist
attacks which occurred over May 11-14, against both Chechnya and Saudi
Arabia, were probably carried out—as Russian President Vladimir Putin
has charged—by al-Qaeda. But the important question remains: Who is
running al-Qaeda? .....

Related Link: http://www.larouchepub.com/eiw/public/2003/2003_20-29/2003-20/this_wk.html#Anchor-Th-5495
Number of comments per page
  
 
© 2001-2025 Independent Media Centre Ireland. Unless otherwise stated by the author, all content is free for non-commercial reuse, reprint, and rebroadcast, on the net and elsewhere. Opinions are those of the contributors and are not necessarily endorsed by Independent Media Centre Ireland. Disclaimer | Privacy