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category national | miscellaneous | news report author Monday May 05, 2003 17:14author by Dominic Carroll - Clonakilty Against the War (personal capacity)author email clonakiltyagainstthewar at eircom dot net Report this post to the editors

Agenda Fails to Reflect Diversity of Anti-War Movement

The agenda for this week’s Irish Anti-War Movement National Assembly has been published. The assembly could provide a necessary forum for discussion as to the way forward for the anti-war movement in Ireland. However, this potential is not likely to be realised, due to the poorly conceived agenda for the day.

The agenda for this week’s Irish Anti-War Movement National Assembly has been published. The assembly could provide a necessary forum for discussion as to the way forward for the anti-war movement in Ireland. However, this potential is not likely to be realised, due to the poorly conceived agenda for the day (partly to do with a failure to consult with activists in the anti-war movement when drawing up the agenda).
Below, I make a number of observations, criticisms and proposals.

1. Rally, not forum for discussion and debate
Essentially, the assembly is been planned as though it were a rally – an opportunity for the ‘leadership’ of the movement to educate the membership. Given the constraints of time and – more importantly – given that most, if not all, in attendance are likely to be well-informed on the meaning of this war, the proposed lectures are not necessary and an unwise use of time.

2. Party dominance
Though the diversity of the anti-war movement has been very apparent, the selection of speakers does not reflect this diversity. Overwhelmingly, the anti-war movement has been composed of non-party activists. Party activists have been in a minority. Yet, the non-party element has been largely ignored in favour of three political parties, which in itself negates the involvement of people from parties and organisations other than those mentioned below. The 3-party rivalry is reflected in the carve-up of speaking rights:

3 from the Socialist Workers Party
2 from the Socialist Party
2 from the Green Party

In addition to the 7 speakers from these 3 parties, the 4 other speakers can be said to reflect the diversity of the movement:

1 from the ‘leadership’ of the IAWM
1 from US Citizens in Ireland for Alternatives to War
1 from Ireland–Palestine Solidarity Campaign
1 Iraqi exile

3. Time constraints on discussion and debate
The agenda allows for lectures and introductions by 11 people. On the basis of the estimates below, these speakers will utilise 145 minutes (29%) of available time. Discussion from the floor will be limited to a maximum of 350 minutes (71%) of available time; taking into account late starts and the practicalities of running a meeting, the time available to speakers from the floor is likely to be nearer to 300 minutes – creating, roughly, a 33–67% split in time between the selected speakers and speakers from the floor. This is not enough time for speakers from the floor.

Time allocation
11.00-12.30pm: Forum: End the Occupation of Iraq: Resist the US Empire
Speakers: Nuria Mustafa (Iraqi Exile), Kevin McLoughlin (Socialist Party), Eamonn McCann (Socialist Workers Party), John Gormley TD (Green Party).
40 mins main speakers (est.)
50 mins speakers from the floor (est.)

1.30-3.00pm Workshops x 3 (includes plenary session)
25 mins main speakers at each workshop (est., total 75 mins)
65 mins speakers from the floor at each workship (est., total 195 mins)

3.15-5.30pm
Forum: The Irish Anti-War Movement: An Assessment and Where to Now
Speaker: Richard Boyd Barrett (Chair, Irish Anti-War Movement)
30 mins main speaker (est.)
105 mins speakers from the floor (est.)

4. No real opportunity for discussion and debate
The movement against the war was clearly diverse in composition and outlook. Whilst there was a large degree of agreement, there was also some disagreement on strategy and tactics. In addition, the way forward is likely to be a topic of debate. Yet, the agenda for the national assembly fails to recognise the importance of this debate. It should be the main topic of discussion on the day, with ample time for contributions from the floor.

5. Democracy
The assembly will be the first national gathering for the anti-war movement in Ireland. But it is unclear if this is an assembly of the Irish Anti-War Movement or a broader assembly for those opposed to the war in Iraq.
If it is actually a conference of the Irish Anti-War Movement, then it presents an opportunity to discuss the national structure of the Irish Anti-War Movement.
At present, the movement is not a democratic movement. It is ad hoc. Those who assumed responsibility for running a national campaign should be thanked and congratulated. Now, however, we have the time and space to properly and democratically constitute the Irish Anti-War Movement. The forthcoming assembly provides the first opportunity to set this in train.
The status of this assembly should be seen as interim or provisional; a preliminary gathering dedicated to the proper establishment of a democratic Irish Anti-War Movement.
Resolutions pertaining to the establishment of a democratic Irish Anti-War Movement should be accepted and put to a vote.
In addition, the steering committee should be re-elected. However, this steering committee should be an interim body, charged with responsibility for clarifying and building membership of the Irish Anti-War Movement, and with organising a delegate conference of the Irish Anti-War Movement.

6. Alternative agenda
I propose an amended agenda for the forthcoming National Assembly of the Irish Anti-War Movement, as follows:

11.00–1.00
The Irish Anti-War Movement: Who was involved; what were our successes; what were our failings; what were our differences
Introduction: Richard Boyd Barrett (Chair, Irish Anti-War Movement): 20 mins Chairperson: Nuria Mustafa (Iraqi Exile)
Discussion: 100 mins

Lunch (1 hour)

2.00–4.00
The Irish Anti-War Movement: What next? Our direction, our activities, our structure
Introduction: John Maguire (Cork Anti-War Campaign) 20 mins
Chairperson: Colin Coulter (Dept of Sociology, Maynooth)
Discussion: 100 mins

4.00–4.45
Resolutions pertaining to the establishment of a democratic Irish Anti-War Campaign
Chairperson: Raymond Deane (Ireland-Palestine Solidarity Campaign)

Break (15 mins)

5.00–5.30
Elections to interim Steering Committee
Chairperson: Mary Van Lieshout (US Citizens in Ireland for Alternatives to War)


 #   Title   Author   Date 
   What about direct action??     Anarcho    Mon May 05, 2003 19:08 
   Anarcho – try reading before you spout off.     Kitty Spillane    Mon May 05, 2003 19:24 
   Direct Action? Yes, that's a good idea, too.     Dominic Carroll    Mon May 05, 2003 20:03 
   A very good initiative     John Meehan    Mon May 05, 2003 21:13 
   Moran cainte     Agallamh    Mon May 05, 2003 22:19 
   Some agreement and some disagreement     Jonno    Mon May 05, 2003 22:35 
   For the record     Aidan    Mon May 05, 2003 23:48 
   Joe Higgins     Magneto    Tue May 06, 2003 00:28 
   Let's try to preserve the rational tone Magneto     Phuq Hedd    Tue May 06, 2003 00:39 
 10   Cork Anti-War Campaign largely agrees     Fintan Lane    Tue May 06, 2003 01:37 
 11   Broad-based     Fintan clone    Tue May 06, 2003 06:30 
 12   Good proposals     Old timer    Tue May 06, 2003 06:41 
 13   Phuq Hedd     Magneto    Tue May 06, 2003 10:51 
 14   Original posting is incorrect     Hilda Robinson    Tue May 06, 2003 11:03 
 15   Magneto: answer this!     Someon who was in Labour Youth in the 1980s    Tue May 06, 2003 11:11 
 16   Clarificiation needed     Joe    Tue May 06, 2003 11:11 
 17   Heres My Answer     Magneto    Tue May 06, 2003 11:35 
 18   To Hilda:     Badman    Tue May 06, 2003 12:32 
 19   To Hilda     PK    Tue May 06, 2003 13:03 
 20   some comments     IAWM activist    Tue May 06, 2003 16:24 
 21   IAWM Activist     Magneto    Tue May 06, 2003 16:47 
 22   Rediscover The Wheel?     Berlin Bob    Tue May 06, 2003 18:05 
 23   I don't care     IAWM member    Tue May 06, 2003 18:10 
 24   I didn't post above comment on this thread     Someone who was in Labour Youth in the 1980's    Tue May 06, 2003 19:30 
 25   Anti-war movement at a crossroads     Brendan Young    Wed May 07, 2003 03:04 
 26   In Reply to 'Magneto'     Shane    Wed May 07, 2003 09:53 
 27   Shane     Magneto    Wed May 07, 2003 10:09 
 28   IAWM Activist     Magneto    Wed May 07, 2003 10:15 
 29   IAWM Activist     Magneto    Wed May 07, 2003 10:42 
 30   Some Useful Info     Cato    Wed May 07, 2003 10:57 
 31   I Reckon     Durutti    Wed May 07, 2003 11:29 
 32   Durutti     Hilda Robinson    Wed May 07, 2003 12:58 
 33   Yes, Hilda     Badman    Wed May 07, 2003 13:15 
 34   Badman     John    Wed May 07, 2003 13:29 
 35   Hilda     Durutti    Wed May 07, 2003 13:31 
 36   John     Badman    Wed May 07, 2003 13:52 
 37   Once more in relpy to Magneto     Shane    Wed May 07, 2003 14:00 
 38   Shane     Magneto    Wed May 07, 2003 14:49 
 39   Shane 2     Magneto    Wed May 07, 2003 14:55 
 40   Haider Meeting     Pat C    Wed May 07, 2003 15:14 
 41   ABSP     Durutti Column    Wed May 07, 2003 15:26 
 42   Another thread derailed     IAWM Activist    Wed May 07, 2003 15:55 
 43   IAWM Activist You Are Being Illogical     pat c    Wed May 07, 2003 16:03 
 44   Just take a fucking look at yourselves     IAWM Activist    Wed May 07, 2003 19:22 
 45   Come on magneto answer the question     Magneto is a s###St#####    Wed May 07, 2003 20:04 
 46   What an alliance!     GNAW supporter    Wed May 07, 2003 22:46 
 47   Fintan Lane and RBB     Norrie    Wed May 07, 2003 23:47 
 48   For fucks sake!     IAWMer    Thu May 08, 2003 01:14 
 49   iawm supporter     pat c    Thu May 08, 2003 10:16 
 50   btw     pat c    Thu May 08, 2003 10:18 
 51   Haidar Protest     Shane    Thu May 08, 2003 10:30 
 52   Magneto 2     Shane    Thu May 08, 2003 10:32 
 53   GNAW supporter obvious trot troll     Joe    Thu May 08, 2003 11:20 
 54   Let's take this debate elsewhere:     Dominic Carrroll    Thu May 08, 2003 11:25 
 55   Let's take this debate elsewhere: New thread established to continue this debate minus the irrelevan     Dominic Carrroll    Thu May 08, 2003 11:26 
 56   I'm with you there Joe,     Chekov    Thu May 08, 2003 11:31 
 57   shane!     pat c    Thu May 08, 2003 13:35 
 58   Shane You Are Being Petulant     Magneto    Thu May 08, 2003 13:47 
 59   drop it and follow the new link !     conor (wsm personal capacity)    Thu May 08, 2003 15:58 
 60   conor     pat c    Thu May 08, 2003 16:08 
 61   You people are all gimps.     Bertie    Thu May 08, 2003 16:56 
 62   Amended Agenda for IAWM National Assembly Rejected     Dominic Carroll    Thu May 08, 2003 18:13 
 63   Suggestion     IDS    Thu May 08, 2003 21:41 
 64   clean up the thread please     barry    Thu May 08, 2003 23:36 
 65   Nice one.     Just pick and choose.    Fri May 09, 2003 00:33 
 66   Final Point     Dominic Carroll    Fri May 09, 2003 00:38 
 67   useful contribution     Dec McCarthy    Fri May 09, 2003 15:10 
 68   To Dominic - V. dissapointing response from IAWM but stay united.     Anonymous    Fri May 09, 2003 15:48 
 69   Not just disappointing but revealing     Joe    Fri May 09, 2003 16:11 
 70   Imagination + Democracy = Good Sense     Dominic Carroll    Fri May 09, 2003 17:54 
 71   Not expecting much     Sean    Fri May 09, 2003 19:23 
 72   Interesting     Activist    Fri May 09, 2003 21:04 
 73   clarification of above     Aoife Ni Fhearghail    Fri May 09, 2003 22:42 
 74   OK, but mind your manners!     Indo    Sat May 10, 2003 00:49 
 75   What about the rest of Ireland?     Mary    Sat May 10, 2003 02:38 
 76   Well, actually...     Observer    Sat May 10, 2003 03:10 
 77   Oh dear, Aoife – you seem to be getting in deeper and deeper     Awad Nasser    Sat May 10, 2003 12:47 
 78   Some comments on the debate between Dominic and IAWM individuals.     Anonymous    Sat May 10, 2003 13:38 
 79   How can Aoife commit or not-commit the IAWM to support Shannon defendants?     Phuq Hedd    Sun May 11, 2003 06:54 
 80   A clarification     Fintan Lane    Sun May 11, 2003 20:46 
 81   He speaks the truth...     Cork activist    Mon May 12, 2003 18:50 
 82   When Did A Corkman Ever Tell The Truth?     Cheka    Tue May 13, 2003 14:30 
 83   what Cheka really means     Cheka decoder    Thu May 15, 2003 16:07 


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