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Safe Streets- Immigrants Deflowered

category national | miscellaneous | news report author Sunday April 20, 2003 14:51author by F. Leddyauthor email fearghalleddy at yahoo dot comauthor phone 01-8560233 Report this post to the editors

Where have all the flowers gone?

On friday 18 april at 1.30am, an incident happened on Dame st. Dublin city centre which put in perspective much of the recent debate over street safety and the poor availability of garda manpower to combat violent crime.

SAFE STREETS-IMMIGRANTS DEFLOWERED
On friday 18 april at 1.30am, an incident happened on Dame st. Dublin city centre which put in perspective much of the recent debate over street safety and the poor availability of garda manpower to combat violent crime.
On said morning, this writer observed a marked garda car pull to a stop alongside the central bank. A uniformed garda then exited the vehicle and ran urgently across the street in the direction of the pedestrian lane linking dame st. with the 'Stag's Head' whereon he caught up with his target, two immigrant flower sellers; a ten-year old boy and a thirty-something adult. The guard then snatched a bunch of roses from the two and turned on his heels to return, rather triumphantly I thought, to his car.
After a conversatin with the two lads, I decided to lodge a complaint in Pearse St. Garda station. This is when it got really interesting.
After a 25min. wait, I finally got the attention of the sergeant-on-duty.The conversation went somthing like this,
Me:...You have heard my story, I'd like you to register my complaint
Sgt: You do realize that,unlike the flower sellers in grafton street,for example, many of those engaged in this trade are unlicenced.
Me: Why then weren't they asked for their licence or their names and addresses, or even arrested?
Sgt: You should be aware that many flower-sellers use this trade as a front for pick- pocketing.
Me: Is it then the policy of this department to confiscate the property of suspected pick-pockets?
Sgt: What has this got to do with you? What's your interest in all this?

The next few minutes where spent trying to convince the acting chief of Pearse street garda station that, as a citizen of the state and resident of Dublin I was entitled to be concerned about how my city was being policed and wasn't it in fact my civic duty to report a robbery if i had seen one.
Eventually , when it became clear that I wasn't going to be disuaded, he left me in the interview room( yes you have guessed it , to fetch a piece of paper!) whereon he returned and grudgingly registered my complaint.

The incident, to my mind, raises a number of interesting issues/questions.

- Garda representatives are on public record in the last week explaining their shortcomings in dealing with violent street-crime as the result of cutbacks in their various departments. Why then, when it comes to soft crime ( ie. the efforts of members of immigrant communities to subsidise their meagre means by providing a service) there seems to be no shortage of man-power?

-Secondly, was there actually a crime committed and, if so, who committed it? Surely, if it was the immigrant pair, there should have been some efforts to record their details at the very least.

- If it was in fact a robbery conducted by a uniformed officer, how does the judicial establishment recommend that we safeguard ourselves against criminal elements in the gardai?

- And could there be a deeper, more sinister issue to be addressed? Could there, in fact, be a culture of racial and social prejudice endemic in the force????

Would be interested in hearing a legal perspective on the aforementioned incident. Can the cops really do this?

P.S : could this robbery have been conducted in aid of the failing lovelife of one of our boys in blue?

 #   Title   Author   Date 
   as old as time     Outsider    Sun Apr 20, 2003 18:01 
   Thanks!     Aunt Jemima    Sun Apr 20, 2003 19:25 
   you were lucky you weren't robbed by the 'flower sellers'     max    Sun Apr 20, 2003 21:27 
   do we really need that previous post....     dowtcha    Sun Apr 20, 2003 22:55 
   Post needed!     Caspian    Mon Apr 21, 2003 03:12 
   Caspian, you really are talking shite!     Noel Hogan    Mon Apr 21, 2003 11:58 
   No he's not talking shite     Bernard    Mon Apr 21, 2003 15:53 
   caspian is not talking shite     grip on reality    Mon Apr 21, 2003 16:29 
   That was a very honest post     Bernard    Mon Apr 21, 2003 18:31 
 10   so...     Albo    Tue Apr 22, 2003 10:52 
 11   ...and...     Albo    Tue Apr 22, 2003 10:59 
 12   Re. Caspian's sources     f.leddy    Tue Apr 22, 2003 13:51 
 13   'forced into a life of thievery'     Josef    Tue Apr 22, 2003 18:41 
 14   Security guards expertise?     Caspian    Wed Apr 23, 2003 02:15 
 15   Let's face facts Caspian!     Maria O    Wed Apr 23, 2003 05:50 
 16   Rivers of Blood     Enoch Powell    Wed Apr 23, 2003 14:17 
 17   Culture? What culture?     Caspian    Wed Apr 23, 2003 18:41 
 18   An Important Distinction::Y'all take care     Aunt Jemima    Thu May 01, 2003 11:59 
 19   Are we targetting the wrong people?     David    Thu May 01, 2003 12:10 
 20   Racial Profiling     Siobhan    Thu May 01, 2003 15:10 
 21   these people     pc bully    Thu May 01, 2003 16:14 
 22   Racism in Ireland     Gerry    Thu May 01, 2003 17:21 
 23   Common Sense     Quentin Tarantino    Thu May 01, 2003 17:48 
 24   The Irish mafia     David    Thu May 01, 2003 21:26 
 25   When directors lose direction     F.Leddy    Fri May 02, 2003 00:32 
 26   Where to begin?     Leigh    Fri May 02, 2003 03:14 
 27   When will all you PC lefties learn???????     sammy    Fri May 02, 2003 14:12 
 28   did you know that     iosaf (not josef) I do CAPITALS    Sat May 03, 2003 11:47 
 29   evidence, iosaf?     fuinseog    Sat May 03, 2003 13:44 
 30   David's points re: who we choose to accuse     Felix    Sat May 03, 2003 16:55 
 31   the Equality Board     curious one    Mon May 05, 2003 11:08 
 32   Equality Board     Talking sense    Mon May 05, 2003 15:38 
 33   Gardai Harassment     Peter O' Toole    Tue May 06, 2003 13:25 
 34   To F.Leddy and David     Quentin Tarantino    Tue May 06, 2003 14:11 
 35   afraid of the dark...     sambaman    Tue May 06, 2003 14:47 
 36   Corporate takeover     Luny left    Tue May 06, 2003 20:28 
 37   Cuba     Quentin Tarantino    Wed May 07, 2003 03:03 
 38   'LUNY LEFT' &CORPORATE TAKEOVER     PETER O' TOOLE    Wed May 07, 2003 11:12 
 39   Corporate Streets     Miguel Latino    Thu May 08, 2003 21:18 
 40   discrimination     the point    Sat May 10, 2003 00:55 
 41   assholes     decco    Fri May 23, 2003 02:17 
 42   European Roma Information Office (ERIO)     roma    Tue May 27, 2003 15:37 
 43   Gardai etc. Gipsy and so on...     Karl    Mon Jun 09, 2003 15:08 


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