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category national | miscellaneous | news report author Saturday March 15, 2003 06:10author by Dougal Report this post to the editors

PDF Format survey: http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/22359

Secretly conducted study finds backing for US-led attack, while plans to tarnish extremists in friendly nations are revealed By Patrick Cockburn 17 December 2002


Iraqis would largely welcome a US-led attack leading to the overthrow of Saddam Hussein, according to a survey of public opinion inside Iraq.

Although they are suspicious of the Iraqi opposition abroad, a majority of Iraqis from all social classes say they see a US strike leading to a change of a regime as the only way they can lead normal lives after over twenty years of war, sanctions and economic misery.

"What we want is simply a dose of stability," said a student at Mosul University interviewed by the authoritative Brussels-based International Crisis Group (ICG). "We have suffered enough due to our leaders' mistakes."

The ICG carried out dozens of covert interviewsin the capital, Baghdad, the northern city of Mosul and the religious centre of Najaf on the Euphrates. Few Iraqis opposed an invasion for patriotic reasons or fear that an attack would lead to heavy civilian casualties.

"We do not particularly want a US military strike, but we do want political change," said a young architect in Baghdad. "We are even ready to live under international tutelage. We have nothing to lose, and it cannot be any worse than our current condition."

The survey is highly significant because in the prolonged debate over regime change the views of people inside Iraq, though critically important, have been considered unknowable on the grounds that they are too frightened to express an opinion.

The ICG report, published this month and based on interviews carried out in September and October, shows that the repressive apparatus of the government is losing its grip.

Support for the invasion is not unconditional. A civil servant in Baghdad said: "If the Americans are committed to overthrowing the regime they also must be committed to rebuilding the country they directly contributed to destroy over the past twelve years as a result of their uncompromising attitude towards sanctions."

Few Iraqis were prepared to take up arms and memories of the failed uprisings of 1991 remain vivid. Arab nationalism seems more potent within the rest of the Arab world than in Iraq. A student in Baghdad commented: "Nobody believes in this country any more. Everyone wants to either leave it, forget it, or change identity and begin a new life."

The overthrow of President Saddam will not be followed by a blood-bath, according to most Iraqis interviewed.

"Contrary to what outsiders think, Iraq will not become another Lebanon," said a retired teacher in Saddam City, a vast, Shiah Muslim district in Baghdad. "We are perfectly aware of who tortured and who murdered, and when the moment comes, we will know how to make distinctions and punish those directly responsible."

Retribution against Iraqis who colluded with President Saddam's regime would also be limited by the fact so many people – businessmen, intellectuals, journalists – had no choice but to cooperate with the government.

There is deep resentment among poorer Iraqis, most of the population, against those who have made money out of sanctions and war.

But there is little fear of sectarian warfare between the Shiah Muslim majority, traditionally excluded from power, and the Sunni Muslims who have dominated the country's politics. Deeply divided though Iraq is between Shiah, Sunni and kurd, it has never had sectarian pogroms as in Lebanon or Northern Ireland.

The survey will make sober reading for the Iraqi opposition, which held a unity meeting London at the weekend.

While delegates hoped for a US attack, they feared being pushed to one side by a US military administration. They were also wary of being seen inside Iraq as American puppets.

A draft final statement "rejected either foreign occupation or military rule either directly or indirectly".

A civil servant in Baghdad said of the opposition leaders: "The exiled Iraqis are the exact replica of those who currently govern us ... with the sole difference that the latter are already satiated since they have been robbing for the past 30 years. Those who accompany the American troops will be ravenous."

Related Link: http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.jsp?story=362281
author by Bernardpublication date Mon Mar 17, 2003 08:52author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Wo! Seriously parnoid individual. Whats' the nameof this lawyer so I can have him diluted. Sorry, I meant liquidated - I'm not very good a this spying thing yet.

author by Blow-inpublication date Mon Mar 17, 2003 00:26author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Ever heard of The New World Order Avi? No one wants Saddam but let us remember that Saddam was a CIA front man and for all we know may still be. He is playing his part in the rotten game. Did you know that there is a lawyer in the states at the moment who is suing the Federal government for now only knowing about 9/11 but also being complicit in the act of terrorism. So do indeed be careful of sources.

author by Avi H.publication date Sun Mar 16, 2003 10:35author address author phone Report this post to the editors

A lot of the anti-war protestors trying so hard to save Saddam's regime are the exactly the people he would take out and shoot if they lived in Iraq.

author by Groverpublication date Sat Mar 15, 2003 22:23author address author phone Report this post to the editors

It's true, of course, but it's not waht u want to hear. How could you possibly understand what it's like to live under the feet of a real dictator?

Bíonn an fhírinne searbh.

author by de boyopublication date Sat Mar 15, 2003 14:38author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Just as many ordinary Americans (and not only Americans) would welcome liberation from the evil tyrant Bush ...

author by James McKennapublication date Sat Mar 15, 2003 11:13author address author phone Report this post to the editors

I wonder how secretly this survey of "Iraqi people" was conducted? So secretly the Colonel who compiled it in the Pentagon didn't even tell his wife what he was doing?

So which Iraqi people said they wanted their homes bombed first? Who volunteered to have a division of emotionally deranged American teenagers armed to the teeth, shitting fear and running down their street shooting at any "damned terrorist" they may find.

Take you US war propaganda elsewher Avi and crewe!

author by Sparkspublication date Sat Mar 15, 2003 10:08author address author phone Report this post to the editors

They just might not support the idea of losing up to 500,000 iraqis in the immediate-to-short-term, or the regieme the US have planned, which (according to the US government) will not permit a democratic form of government.

author by Avi H.publication date Sat Mar 15, 2003 09:12author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Of course ordinary Iraqis will support liberation from the evil tyrant by the US and UK.

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