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Grass Roots Gathering Belfast

category national | miscellaneous | news report author Monday October 14, 2002 01:30author by darren - Grassroots Gatheringauthor email grassrootsbelfast at yahoo dot comauthor address 1-5, Donegal Lane, Belfastauthor phone 00447759598798 Report this post to the editors

The 3rd Grassroots Gathering: The third Grassroots Gathering takes place in Belfast from the 25th – 28th of October (A Bank Holiday weekend in the Republic). It’s happening at Giros. The Belfast GG kicks of with a ‘critical mass’ action on Friday the 25th meeting at City Hall at 5.30pm (so bring your bike if you can). Workshops & discussions will take place throughout Saturday & Sunday. There are planned around 20 workshops, on issues such as gender, direct action, Sellafield, Peoples Global Action, Media Activism, creating social spaces, European Social Consulta, Anti-war Actions. There will be entertainment throughout the weekend with films, games & music (Giros hosts Irelands only d.i.y. venue ‘the Centre’). Monday the 28th has been set-aside for Actions, which will be planned over the weekend.

The 3rd Grassroots Gathering:

The third Grassroots Gathering takes place in Belfast from the 25th – 28th of October (A Bank Holiday weekend in the Republic). It’s happening at Giros (also know as the BYCG & Warzone Centre) 1-5 Donegal Lane. (Check out the website on http://www.geocities.com/warzonecollective ).

If you don’t know about the Grassroots Gathering here’s some blurgh:
So far the grassroots gatherings have aimed towards creating a network, which would
- Be based on the principle that people should control their own lives and work together as equals, as part of how we work as well as what we are working towards.
- Within the network this means rejecting top-down and state-centred forms of organisation (hierarchical, authoritarian, expert-based, Leninist etc.). We need a network that's open, decentralised, and really democratic.
- Call for solutions that involve ordinary people controlling their own lives and having the resources to do so: the abolition, not reform, of global bodies like the World Bank and WTO, and a challenge to underlying structures of power and inequality.
- Organise for the control of the workplace by those who work there.
- Call for the control of communities by the people who live there.
- Argue for a sustainable environmental, economic and social system, agreed by the people of the planet.
- Working together in ways that are accessible to ordinary people, particularly women and working-class people, rather than reproducing feelings of disempowerment and alienation within our own network.

The 2 Previous GG’s have taken place in Dublin & Cork you can read reports & check out some pictures @ http://grassrootsgathering.freeservers.com/index.html

The Belfast GG kicks of with a ‘critical mass’ action on Friday the 25th meeting at City Hall at 5.30pm (so bring your bike if you can). Workshops & discussions will take place throughout Saturday & Sunday. There are planned around 20 workshops, on issues such as gender, direct action, Sellafield, Peoples Global Action, Media Activism, creating social spaces, European Social Consulta, Anti-war Actions. There will be entertainment throughout the weekend with films, games & music (Giros hosts Irelands only d.i.y. venue ‘the Centre’). Monday the 28th has been set-aside for Actions, which will be planned over the weekend.

Accommodation (crash space) is available, there will be kids activities, wholesome, tasty, & cheap vegan food will be provided. Please contact us & tell us your coming so we have an idea how many people to expect.

If you have any special dietary/accommodation needs please contact us so we can accommodate you. Giros disabled access is not good if you have special needs please contact us in advance & we will try to work something out.

Over the weekend volunteers will be needed for various task, specifically cooking & helping with kids activities. If you’d like to volunteer in advance that would be great.

Contact:

Mail:
Grassroots Gathering
C/o Giros
1-5 Donegal Lane
Belfast

e-mail:
grassrootsbelfast@yahoo.com

Phone:
07759598798
(00447759598798 from ROI)


author by enthusiast - reclaim the streets!publication date Mon Oct 14, 2002 12:18author address author phone Report this post to the editors

belfast. belfast. belfast. belfast.
:-)
belfast. belfast. belfast. belfast.
on your bikes!

author by Observorpublication date Mon Oct 14, 2002 13:09author address author phone Report this post to the editors

author by protester / protestant ?publication date Mon Oct 14, 2002 13:25author address author phone Report this post to the editors

but is there an indymedia centre in Belfast?
I´ve googled but there isn´t.
& why isn´t there a french link to IMC?
are the french "externally associated" to indymedia?
and if the french through ATTAC have produced some of the most interesting counter-culture theories for "western civilisation" "evolution" why are they "externally associated".
and ´aint that a thought...

author by quaker - pacifist anarcho-syndicalist christian religionpublication date Mon Oct 14, 2002 13:44author address author phone Report this post to the editors

becuase it seems to have a different logo?
are they "externally associated" as well?

author by Andrewpublication date Mon Oct 14, 2002 13:52author address author phone Report this post to the editors

hey Observor go and take your sectarian poison elsewhere.

author by Daithipublication date Mon Oct 14, 2002 14:29author address author phone Report this post to the editors

As far as I recall the original French Indymedia had fallen into "the wrong hands" and the password holder was not paying attention to it anymore or something like that - i have a vague recollection of some hassle over setting up a new IMC maybe that's what's going on.

The logo and designs can differ from site to site; external association is (I think) when a site does not meet all the IMC criteria (new apps have to fill out a form and have certain things like an open publishing newswire).

author by tinapublication date Mon Oct 14, 2002 15:28author email grassrootsbelfast at yahoo dot comauthor address author phone Report this post to the editors

Everybody is welcome to the Grassroots gathering but sectarianism,religious/homophobic/sexist/racist bigotry is NOT. Norn Iron humour seems to be wearing a bit thin these days

author by Observorpublication date Mon Oct 14, 2002 16:41author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Ha! All you will do is whinge about the taigs. If anyone mentioned the protestants who are being driven out in North Belfast you would not listen.

The real sectarianism is the nationalism you lot cheer lead. Your poor Catholic friends in East Belfast are just a wedge to drive more Protestants out.

Why not support Protestant Civil Rights?

You never condemn the Catholics on the Garvaghy Road who are attacking Protestants all the time.

Your reactions are just proving my point.

author by Raypublication date Mon Oct 14, 2002 16:55author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Sherlock Holmes must be spinning in his grave...

What's next - condemning atheists for being anti-Mormon?

author by Andrewpublication date Mon Oct 14, 2002 17:12author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Observer the logic behind 'Your poor Catholic friends in East Belfast are just a wedge to drive more Protestants out' is sectarian. It suggests that there should be 'catholic areas' and 'protestant areas' and people of one background should not be allowed to live in the areas of another. An anti-sectarian position would obviously be 'anyone can live where ever they want'. Maybe you already understand that?

In any case those of us involved in the gatherings would presumably opposed sectarian attacks no matter who they are carried out on. The reality in the north is that 90% plus of reported sectarian attacks are aimed at people perceived to be catholics. But that doesn't make a single case of somebodys window getting smashed because they are perceived to be from a protestant background right either.

author by iosafpublication date Mon Oct 14, 2002 18:12author address author phone Report this post to the editors

barcelona sets quite a few criteria
as well as meeting them.
Yes Daithi that was the problem for France.
Logos can change and often appearances solve "local" difficulties or "sectarian" (...flags and emblems)... sort of things.
Irony ought not be lost on any of us.
if THORP blows everyone will be driven out of wherever they live.

author by diallopublication date Tue Oct 15, 2002 14:15author address author phone Report this post to the editors

of those that run giros, the majority are prods. unfortunately many of whom are middle class, with non violent middle class values almost akin to those of the SDLP. although they do try to embrace wishy washy old school leprachaun type republicanism, all things organic, all things traditionally irish, obviously without any violent or revolutionary tendencies. and you can be sure they'll phone and squeal to peelers for assistance when things get out of hand.

author by maalox - grassroots belfast covert task forcepublication date Tue Oct 15, 2002 16:01author email maalox at safe-mail dot netauthor address author phone Report this post to the editors

"The real sectarianism is the nationalism you lot cheer lead."

"wishy washy old school leprachaun type republicanism"

"NO Prods Wanted"

etc. etc. ad nauseum

Um, i take it you lot won't be coming then? That's a relief. I just hope you don't put any real activists off coming to Belfast with this sort of crap. We're not all dickheads, honest.

And as for the ethnic makeup of Giro's, i don't remember the survey, and i don't really care which background the volunteers are from. Some of us have actually managed to outgrow sectarianism.

author by darren - girospublication date Tue Oct 15, 2002 16:15author email directactionagainstapathy at yahoo dot co dot ukauthor address author phone Report this post to the editors

Hey,

Let it be known at Giros we are really a cross community...

& the kinda sectarian bollox posted above makes us even more cross.

author by C.publication date Tue Oct 15, 2002 16:28author address author phone Report this post to the editors

We're due to have an IMC meeting, it should be outside Dublin and this seems a good place to call one. Don't want to step on anybody's toes though (especially any media activist comrades).

I'm intending to head up and could probably round up a couple of other dublin heads - enough for some continuity etc.

Comments?

author by maalox - grassroots gathering organisational matrixpublication date Tue Oct 15, 2002 17:55author email maalox at safe-mail dot netauthor address author phone Report this post to the editors

We'd like an idea of numbers of people attending, numbers of kids to be looked after, etc. so we can sort accomodation and food etc.

Also any dietary or other needs people might have.

cheers...

author by duncanpublication date Tue Oct 15, 2002 20:17author email duncancrowley at hotmail dot comauthor address oxfordauthor phone Report this post to the editors

there was talk at ecotopia re improved communication networks; both virtual and real.

i was at the first leinster meeting last month and am now studying in u.k

i still think that the irish sustainable movement has a big communication problem, it needs to be improved.

an open forum area should be linked to www.sustainable.ie
and from www.ecotopia2002.org
main campaigns should be highlighted

how are things progressing on this front?
was there a report of how things have gone in each of the provinces on indymedia/ is it the place for it?

eitherway good luck to you, enjoy the w/e

slán
dunk

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