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category national | miscellaneous | news report author Sunday September 29, 2002 13:20author by CYM - Connolly Youth Movementauthor address Connolly Youth Movement, 43 East Essex Street, Dublin 2 Report this post to the editors

Statement by the Connolly Youth Movement

Connolly Youth Movement call for a NO vote to Nice.


“Everybody is equal, but some are more equal than others.” This is exactly what the Government is asking Irish people to believe when calling for a yes vote in the coming Nice Treaty referendum.
When Ireland joined the Common Market in 1973 we joined as equal partners, and that relationship has continued to the present day.
However, if the Nice Treaty is ratified, the equal and democratic relationship between Ireland and the European Union would end, as larger EU nations would triple their voting power, while smaller EU nations (including Ireland) would only have their voting power doubled. It would remove the veto that each EU member-state is now entitled to, and Ireland would lose the right to its permanent commissioner. The EU state constitution would take precedence over Ireland’s constitution.
Ireland’s neutrality is also under threat if the Nice Treaty is passed into law, as the European Union would then have direct power over the Rapid Reaction Force. The Seville declaration is a rhetorical document, and no alterations to the Nice Treaty have been made. The Connolly Youth Movement urges all young people of voting age to vote no in the Nice referendum.

Related Link: http://www.communistpartyofireland.ie
author by where is labour youthpublication date Thu Oct 03, 2002 14:53author address author phone Report this post to the editors

ok the sinner stuff is weak and the sp are not having a full campaign door to door, but where are labour youth hiding, perhaps in Globalise resistance?

author by Justin Moran - Sinn Feinpublication date Thu Oct 03, 2002 10:34author email maigh_nuad at yahoo dot comauthor address author phone Report this post to the editors


More details please? Our analysis was good enough for the last referendum when we ran the largest and most active progressive No to Nice campaign. We're doing so again and getting a very good response on the doors.

author by OK - SPpublication date Thu Oct 03, 2002 10:21author address author phone Report this post to the editors

The Socialist Party are doing canvassing! In my branch (Dublin South) we've been going door to door on Nice for a number of weeks now.

Before you post something on the internet why not find out if it's true.

author by scepticalpublication date Wed Oct 02, 2002 23:34author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Sf are using weak points in their critique of the EU, either their research is poor or they are afraid to be seen to be too critical. As for the socialist youth/sp they are doing no leafleting or canvassing on Nice, certainly not door to door.

author by general O'Duffy - blueshirtpublication date Wed Oct 02, 2002 03:09author address author phone Report this post to the editors

El General must be spinning in his grave with all this blueshirt youth nudity, now a thousand hail marys for the conversion of young fine gael...

author by i believe yuspublication date Tue Oct 01, 2002 21:49author address author phone Report this post to the editors

If the above is true, then we have 3 youth organisations doing the right thing on Nice, that is to be welcomed and shame on all the many other youth groups keeping dumb or calling for a yes.

author by Justin Moran - Sinn Feinpublication date Tue Oct 01, 2002 16:27author email maigh_nuad at yahoo dot comauthor address author phone Report this post to the editors


Well the people in the poster are Bertie, Harney and Quinn so I am desperately hoping nudity ad orgy like images are not involved. Actually I heard a rather unnerving rumour that the people in the poster were actually wee Blueshirts and not models. Can this be so? What would Justin Barrett, ex Young Fine Gael, think of the depravity to which his organisation has fallen.

author by angry activist - ucd independent campaignerpublication date Tue Oct 01, 2002 15:52author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Justin, I hope that Ógra Shinn Féin's posters will be better than FG's porno pic.

The Yes side and Fine Gael are just a big joke in the Universities.

author by Justin Moran - Sinn Feinpublication date Tue Oct 01, 2002 12:50author email maigh_nuad at yahoo dot comauthor address author phone Report this post to the editors


Ográ Shinn Féin are launching their campaign some day this week, I THINK it's Friday but I'm not sure. They've designed and produced their own posters for use in the universities which will be going up over the next couple of days.

On top of that, they've been tieing in with local structures across the state.

author by Stalinist haterpublication date Tue Oct 01, 2002 12:47author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Did you have a read of the CYM manifesto?

It is seriously watered down. It does not call for socialism. It is simply left wing and not necessarily revolutionary. And throughout it is tainted by nationalism.

CYM are not a serious youth group. SY and ÓSF are in my opinion

author by hs - sppublication date Tue Oct 01, 2002 00:47author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Its been printed in the SY paper and is being distributed on the streets every saturday as well as in the schools and colleges.

http://www.geocities.com/socialistparty/SYsup0702.htm#2

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No To Nice: What Kind of Campaign is Needed?

author by wandering off the pointpublication date Tue Oct 01, 2002 00:03author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Yes but when the wooley rhetoric above is examined in any serious fashion, where is the Ogra SF statement on Nice? And where is the socialist youth one, if they are as big as claimed above they should be able to find some capable of writing one? It is time more youth organisations said something on the issue, rather than attacking the only one who has so far.

author by I.P.publication date Mon Sep 30, 2002 19:05author address author phone Report this post to the editors

They are supporting a pro-nice candidate because they're no different to other Stalinists. They are nothing more than apologisers for the stalinist bureaucracy. Throughout the Undemocratic Stalinist regime in Russian they apologised for the bureaucracy's crimes against socialism.

Today all accross Europe the CP are nationalistic and inseprable from the Ruling parties.

author by SIPTU Fightbackpublication date Mon Sep 30, 2002 11:26author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Why is the CPI (as distinct from individual members) supporting a pro-Nice candidate in the SIPTU General Secretary election?

author by SIPTU Fightbackpublication date Mon Sep 30, 2002 11:24author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Why is the CPI (as distinct from

author by Sean - Ogra Shinn Feinpublication date Mon Sep 30, 2002 10:44author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Ógra Shinn Féin have been tying in with our parties' local structures for a number of weeks now on the issue of the Nice Treaty.
We've been involved in leafleting and canvassing as part of our campaign work.

I'm not here to waste my time squabbling but I thought it necessary to set the record straight.


Maith sibh as an suíomh idirlíon.

author by Howardpublication date Sun Sep 29, 2002 23:46author address author phone Report this post to the editors

I think that the bi-lingualism of the CPI website is because they are left republicans, not because they are genuinely committed to accomadating Irish speakers.

All over the world the Stalinist 'Communist' Parties embraced nationalism. Ireland is no real exception. On their site they refer to 'the 26 counties', this is a particularly republican term.

author by OK - Socialist Youthpublication date Sun Sep 29, 2002 23:43author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Socialist Youth is a youth organisation that campaigned against the Nice Treaty last year and we are again looking for a No Vote.

Socialist Youth is probably the only serious left-wing Youth organisation that is campaigning on youth issues.

author by grey owl - aging youthpublication date Sun Sep 29, 2002 20:56author address author phone Report this post to the editors

about time a youth organisation finally came out against Nice, now just maybe some of the issues of concern to young people will finally be addressed.

author by Gaelgoirpublication date Sun Sep 29, 2002 18:55author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Why is it that the CPI have their site strictly bi-lingual?

Personally I think this is good, after all I am an Irish speaker.

But politically is it because they're trying to tap into nationalism?

Is the motivation for a bi-lingual site because of a genuine committment to accomadating Irish language speakers, or is it because they are trying to appear nationalistic?

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