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More Savage FAS Cuts In Bawnogue Clondalkin

category dublin | worker & community struggles and protests | news report author Friday April 05, 2013 12:57author by Clondalkin Resident Report this post to the editors

Hi All:

As of last Thursday ( March 28th 2013 ) FAS funding for the DBD Jobs Club, in Bawnogue ( Clondalkin ) has been withdrawn completely without any satisfactory explanation.

The Jobs Club Leader has been told that he is about to be made redundant and all services from our Jobs Club is to be withdrawn immediately.

Over the last 10 years, The Jobs Club has provided a very valuable service to local jobseekers over and it is unthinkable that, when its needed most, the area will be deprived of this valuable service.

The Jobs Club Leader is owed a substantial amount of Wages, Holiday Pay and Redundancy! He was told that he will not be paid Redundancy and that he has to go “Cap in Hand” to the Department of Social Protection for Statutory Redundancy.

Martin has been left with no choice but to occupy his Workplace since last Tuesday Morning ( April 2nd )

There is a pretty worrying development – a security guard has been placed outside his door whose brief it is to lock Martin out of his workplace as soon as he tries to go use the toilet etc.

The toilets are in a common area away from the DBD Jobs Club Training Room – Martin’s Workplace.

This measure has been implemented subsequent to a visit to Martin ( on the afternoon of Wednesday 03rd ) by Mr Larry O’Neill, Chair of ACE ( ) and Deputy CEO of Clondalkin, Palmerstown, Lucan, Newcastle ( CPLN ) Area Partnership ( ).

I would appeal to all to contact Mr. O’Neill at and ask him to allow Martin free access to Toilet Facilities etc. in the course of his protest. If you prefer to ring; Mr. O’Neill’s office number is that of the Clondalkin, Palmerstown, Lucan, Newcastle ( CPLN ) Area Partnership – (01) 4508788.

At the end of the day, my simple understanding is that Organisation like those two, mentioned above, that Mr. O’Neill holds prominent positions on are meant to be Community-focussed and helping those in our Community that may experience the difficulties that our Jobs Club Leader, Martin, is experiencing at the moment.

I, also, understand that Security will deny any potential visitors access to Martin at his Workplace – the DBD Jobs Club Training Room.

In the modern “post Celtic-Tiger” day it is a shame to see organisations like these apparently closing their ears completely to the plight.

How Can You Help?

1. Contact Mr Larry O’Neill, Chair of ACE ( ) and Deputy CEO of Clondalkin, Palmerstown, Lucan, Newcastle ( CPLN ) Area Partnership ( ) and ask him to allow Martin free access to Toilet Facilities etc. in the course of his protest.
Mr. O’Neill’s Office number is that of the Clondalkin, Palmerstown, Lucan, Newcastle ( CPLN ) Area Partnership – (01) 4508788 and his eMail address is:

2. Contact the DBD Advice & Information Centre, Unit 14, Bawnogue Shopping Centre, Bawnogue and ask them what they are going to do to ensure Martin gets the wages and Holiday Pay owed to him. Their Phone Number is: (01) 4577925 / (01) 4576933. Their eMail address is:

3. Contact Mr. Tom Rowan, Manager Community Services, FAS / Department Social Protection, Ballyfermot and ask him what the future holds for the DBD Jobs Club which has provided a valuable service to the Clondalkin Community over the last 10 years. The Jobs Club Leader, Martin, has delivered those services with dedication and passion throughout that length of time – yet this is how he is being treated. Mr. Rowan’s eMail address is: and his Telephone Number is: (01) 6235612.

4. Let Martin know that you are aware of his and the DBD Jobs Club plight. Martin has given a lot to the local community over the last 10 years – we need your help now. His eMail address is: . A few words of encouragement will mean a lot.

I am directly contactable on (086) 6004341 or (01) 4045129.

Kind Regards

John O'Shea

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author by Sharon. - Indvidual.publication date Fri Apr 05, 2013 22:50Report this post to the editors

Hi John!

Has SIPTU been contacted re this situation , as I know from the JI/CE problems in the area that they are supposed to be dealing with all issues re the 'amalgamation' ('downsizing') of the (old) Clondalkin Partnership (now a part of the new 'South Dublin County Partnership' Company) and the DBD closure is part and parcel of this new entity ?
I know Martin from his work in the area (and also knew his late colleague , Mick O' Mara , sadly missed) and I am aware that Martin was a SIPTU/DCTU representative on the CPLN Board and, as such, I would hope that SIPTU/DCTU would not seek to abandon one of its own?


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author by Sharon. - Individual.publication date Sat Apr 06, 2013 11:15Report this post to the editors


A good indication of the type of people that Martin is up against (and , indeed, the snake-oil corporate salespeople that the JI and CE workers in the Clondalkin area have been forced to deal with in recent years) can be seen at the 'Related Link' , below : in the one breath they will promise all things to all men -
"But what of the future?
In the short term there will be little evidence of any change in the way our Local Development Programme is delivered.... we will maintain all our outreach offices and staff will be available to continue the work on the ground.....the budget for the new company is not available as we go to print but if severe cuts in funding allocations are received this may result in changes in how we carry out our work....."

I wish Martin all the best and I hope he obtains justice sooner rather than later.


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author by Donegal Dannypublication date Sat Apr 06, 2013 18:58Report this post to the editors

I used to live in Clondalkin but unfortunately I am now a bit too far away in Donegal to come down and give support or I would put on a picket myself and make sure nobody got in or out of that fancy new Enterprise Centre on the Bawnogue Road untill that worker got his rights.This is a disgraceful state of affairs in todays world to order security guards not to let a worker use the toilets, it is inhumane, who ordered this to be carried out?

I think we need to ask the man who drove his JCB into the gates of Leinster House Joe McNamara to come back to Dublin all the way from Dun na Carraige, Co. Galway and drive his JCB into the enterprise centre in Bawnogue and free this poor worker who is prevented from going outside the door to the shop to buy a packet of crisps or get a cup of tea or even to use the loo.

author by Jamespublication date Sat Apr 06, 2013 19:29Report this post to the editors

FAS are a totally corrupt organisation who have been carrying out cut after cut for years against poverty stricken and deprived communities with extreme relish and gusto, while continuing to spend huge sums of money on the over paid bureaucrats at the top of their decrepit organisation. It is FAS which should have been abolished many years ago but it has been protected by government after government no matter which party is in it seems toserve their interests. Why has not even one political party called for FAS to be wound up. They would reap a rich harvest of votes as FAS is much hated by all the people they have oppressed on CE schemes the length and breath of this country. I have heard they are even worse in country areas where they are really tied in with the gombeen local county councillors and TD's.

author by Chestnut - Observerpublication date Sun Apr 07, 2013 15:56Report this post to the editors

James, it is a disgrace to see the community employment schemes take the punishment for those who used up to £1 bn a year to supposedly create employment in boom time Ireland. The truth is we now need to google up Shane Ross and his expedition and findings of what really happened in FAS and the shameful over-spend on the bureaucratic elitism of the heads who had no real interest in the grassroots organisation related to creating work.

There are a group of people who selfishly assumed positions of authority in companies, government bodies, in quangos, in semi-state and in particular in trade unions who blatantly feathered their nests. The sad point for people who are struggling to survive in these harsh financial times is that these people continue to gain. We rightly need to ask SIPTU to take a stance on those who are being forced out of community employment in Dublin and throughout this country. Community employment was and continues to be vital for people and it created social capital and many benefits to the economy. It was about value to society. Realistically, its strong point is that it has a minor cost quotient but a massive quality to lives of other provision and our Coalition government are so tunnel visioned to the Troika beat that they miss out on what the meaning of social capital and society is all about. Let them think of old Arthur Guinness, the employer of so many and their social capital focus two centuries ago. Community employment is a success story amidst the plunder of the developers and the many white collar criminals and their greed.

A report issued this week from the EU commission: They agreed about the social purpose of these community employment schemes; the problem they had is that they schemes did not necessarily create activation into full-time work?
"They have, at best, an extremely weak activation and back-to-work component, and at worse, triggers 'subsidised employment traps'". The problem they have is that these CE courses cost the same as education courses. However, should the question not be - horses for courses. We have need to have people in full-time work but there is also a critical need to have part-time community work providing people with progression in their own time scale. Trinity Access Programme is now 20 years in existence and no doubt there are many others who created a pathway to full-time employment.

People need to stand up and say No to Cuts in Community Employment, that valuable source of social capital, community responsibility, path to education and long-term employment. It was one of the positive outcomes for social mobility during those heady Tiger days....

Anyway it was the EU who promoted same alongside the Horizon programmes. A visit to EU House, Dawson Street will re-enforce the social capital drive that is part of the European mantra.

author by North Clondalkinpublication date Sun Apr 07, 2013 18:31Report this post to the editors

Sharon is absolutely correct in saying that the old Clondalkin Partnership and the Tallaght Partnership were 'amalgamated' or 'downsized' into the new 'South Dublin County Partnership' Company and the DBD closure is connected with this new super merger.

I dont live in Bawnogue but the word going around North Clondalkin is that Larry the Vulture has had his beady eye on the DBD Jobs club for a good while now and has been circling overhead waiting for his opportunity to swoop and carry off this ripe plum in his beak and plant it anywhere except Bawnogue which he hates with a vengence.

The word on the ground in that he plans to wait a few weeks and then set it up here in North Clondalkin. The 'South Dublin County Partnership' has been an totally unmitigated disaster from its inception. It has huge power in Tallaght as well as Clondalkin (and a massive combined budget).. This latest incident proves that they dont give a damn for the workers (or whether they receive their redundancy money or rights) in either Clondalkin or Tallaght whose taxes pay for the huge salaries of the political appointees at the top of all these partnerships.

author by Clondalkin Citizenpublication date Sun Apr 07, 2013 18:51Report this post to the editors

I am a citizen of Clondalkin and I work in the broad community/ youth sector, I cannot give my name or 'Larry the Snake' who is the 'Deputy Dawg' of the new merged super partnership named the 'South Dublin County Partnership' would arrange with my employers for me to be sacked as well. He is a very ruthless individual. There is a lot of support for martin and people in Clondalkin are saying Free The Bawnogue One. I would like to extend my solidarity to Martin and I will help out behind the scene as will many other Community and youth workers but we cannot go public and be photographed on a picket if we value our jobs.

author by MaAlpine Fusilierpublication date Mon Apr 08, 2013 17:44Report this post to the editors

I dont think it will be necessary get Joe McNamara to crash his JCB into the enterprise centre as support is building up locally on this issue. I was talking to one of the security guards that Larry threathened to sack for helping Martin and I was assured that if Martins Union puts on an official picket that not even one of the security guards will pass it as they are all union members themselves.

author by Marshapublication date Mon Apr 08, 2013 17:53Report this post to the editors

Hi Sharon, you are absolutely correct Martin was a good comrade of Michael O' Mara RIP. They were like the Che Guevarra and Fidel Castro of Bawnogue with their combats and their beards and long hair. They both marched all over europe on the European marches against Unemployment and against the EU. I am sure this would not have gone unnoticed by the "suits" in the Partnership and FAS who fear anyone outside their cozy little consensus

author by Condalkin Security Workerpublication date Tue Apr 09, 2013 16:16Report this post to the editors

Apart from the fact that martin is well known and liked by the Security Workers for the last 15 years and Larry is just a recent blow in, most of the Security Guards are Job Initiative scheme workers. Larry has had a lot of run ins with the J.I. workers since he arrived in Clondalkin a few years ago.

author by Obairpublication date Tue Apr 09, 2013 16:24Report this post to the editors

Larry has a typical IBEC business man attitude to workers, hardly surprising as that was his background before he came to Clondalkin. One thing he did was to try to get the JI workers to change their employment contracts and that is one of the reasons they security people employed on JI don't like him very much at all.

author by Monicapublication date Wed Apr 10, 2013 16:01Report this post to the editors

Chestnut, your analysis of CE is excellent and it is indeed a disgrace to see the community employment schemes take the punishment for the corruption endemic within FAS. JI is also a very popular scheme which is evidenced by the fact that almost no JI worker leaves Ji until they retire. A huge number of workers have been on JI for the last 10 or 15 years now.

The new TUS scheme is a different kettle of fish altogether. TUS is simply exploitation and would have no participants unless Social Welfare didnt force people to go on these unpopular TUS projects. TUS has none of the training or any other values that chestnut outlined so well and should be abolished together with FAS and all these partnerships which also are a complete waste of money.

author by SIPTU Memberpublication date Wed Apr 10, 2013 17:29Report this post to the editors

JI workers are not the only group that Lawrence of Clondalkin (Arabia) has tried to change their employment contracts on since he rode into Clondalkin on his trusty camel to pursue his great IBEC mission to conquer and subdue the natives. He has tried to change the terms and conditions of other employees here in the LES as well. In fact the SIPTU official has had to be called in on a number of occasions

author by fredpublication date Thu Apr 11, 2013 00:21Report this post to the editors

FAS could be replaced by a large computer server running some half decent up to date online courses and a job matching website where employers could post jobs and employees could look for jobs.

creating this server could be done by a team of computer programmers and web designers gleaned from the dole queues.

Most of the people in administration in FAS are dead weight wasting taxpayers funds.

Abolish FAS and replace it with a decent server.

It has been shown that FAS courses cost more per person than if the people were just put on proper courses like those in the open university.

It's all the deadwood administration, huge pensions, building rental, junkets and bloat.

replace them with proper certified online education and a server.

There is also so much quality free educational material available online these days, it's unreal!
e.g. or MIT:

FAS is an anachronism. Outdated and useless.

author by Sharon. - Individual.publication date Thu Apr 11, 2013 23:07Report this post to the editors

Hi !

Martin's ordeal came to an end last Friday , 5th April 2013 , when he ended his protest and left the building. I'm still trying to find out the full details and no doubt same will be posted on this thread in due course , by myself or others.
For a 'flavour' of unfinished business re Larry O' Neill -CPLN-SDCP and JI / CE in the Clondalkin area , see the 'Related Link' , below.


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author by DBD Pay Martin Walshpublication date Tue Apr 16, 2013 14:38Report this post to the editors

Martin decided to occupy the DBD Centre last Thursday as the management of the Centre failed to communicate with his union once he had ended his sit in at the Jobs Club Office. The way he has been treated since then is appaling. On Friday morning at 8.30 members of the board smashed down the front door, and upon entering the premises proceeded in being very menacing towards Martin, Martin feared for his safety as one of the board members thretened physical violence. They then proceeded to take out the phone lines and kettle and switched off the power before locking Martin into the premises with all the shutters locked, Martin was left sitting in the dark and cold for a number of hours with no way for his supporters to get in to him with hot food and drinks, we eventually managed to get one of the shutters open after 10 hours. At approx 10pm that night the board members arrived back when Martins supporters had left with a large number of Gardai in tow and also the Fire Brigade(a waste of frontline resources in our opinion) they tried to get Gardai to remove Martin from the centre but upon hearing Martins side of the story the Gardai refused to do this and also told the board to leave the door unlocked as in the event of emergency Martin could exit the building. There is so much more to this story which can be seen on our Facebook Page just search for DBD Pay Martin Walsh

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