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National - Event Notice
Saturday November 24 2012
01:00 PM

DCTU Pre-Budget Protest - Saturday 24th November

category national | workers issues | event notice author Thursday October 25, 2012 09:48author by SIPTU Community - Communities Against Cuts Report this post to the editors

Communities Join With DCTU for Anti Austerity Protest

The Dublin Council of Trade Unions is bringing together a broad coalition for this years pre-budget protest on Saturday 24th November, 1pm, Parnell Square, Dublin 1.

Among those mobilising are the SIPTU Community Campaign, Community Against Cuts, The Spectacle of Defiance and Hope, The Campaign Against Household and Water Taxes and the SIPTU Dublin District Committee.

Communities Against Cuts
Communities Against Cuts

Ed: Photos of the event can be found here

The Government is going to make choices for Budget 2013 that will affect the community sector. It will choose how much money goes to services such as childcare, youth work and community employment.

Previous budget cuts have brought the Community Sector to breaking point; we have to ensure that this time the Government makes the right choice.

Union activists have spent the past year campaigning and lobbying politicians and telling them why the sector needs to be protected, but now is the time to hit the streets.

On 24th November, 1pm the SIPTU and Communities Against Cuts will be joining the Dublin Council of Trade Union’s pre-budget demonstration at Parnell Square, Dublin.

We are asking all workers and supporters to join us and send a message to Government; cutting communities will mean pain for you.

Attached is a poster that you can put up in your project or give to your colleagues, friends and family.

Related Link: http://www.siptu.ie/community
author by anti-L'oreal Budgeteerpublication date Thu Oct 25, 2012 15:05Report this post to the editors

how about cutting public servants over 100K and their bloated pension plans?? (and politicians too)
How about cutting pay of top trade unionists??

It seems to me this is all just lip service. The government have a handy arrangement with PS unions as long as they stick with croke park and protect the well paid public service. (I'm talking those over 50k not the rest here) and since their pay is linked to these, they protect themselves too.

The recent report on TD pay was an eye opener.

The budget will again hammer those without a strong voice on social welfare and any community voluntary services.

Meanwhile Greedy TD's will keep their basic pay of 93k plus extras which can nearly double it up to 180k. All for having absolutely no effect on Dail decisions which are essentially just pushed through by the party whip.

And all that money and all those ineffective TDs just to manage a population comparable to that of greater manchester.

In a recession this is complete lunacy and a guarantee to bring us further into recession more quickly.

Our ponzi pension scheme is bust paying the likes of shell traitor bertie and crook Ray Burke 100K p.a.

We need to cut where it is deserved and stop haemmoraging huge amounts of money to unsecured foreign banksters and speculators who we don't owe anything to.

increase tax on foreign tax dodging corporations who set up shop here.

They pay fuck all tax and employ fuck all people to create their tax write off operations here.

And We need to stop talking about GDP because their money laundering operations obscure the real state of our economy shown more clearly by the downward spiralling GNP figures.

And I'll trust union leaders more to have the interests of low paid workers at heart when they aren't taking home 100k themselves.

Lets make this the anti-l'oreal budget. Lets cut those who "aren't really worth it"

author by Chris Murraypublication date Thu Oct 25, 2012 19:44Report this post to the editors

Absolutely agree with capping public service pay. Cap ALL public service and union salaries at 100,000 per year. And don't stop there. Go for the real problem. Go after the rich. Go after those who have been the prime cause of this crisis, yet who have, incredibly, managed to spin this economic disaster as a crisis of public spending.

These rich, the truly rich, who make even the top public servants and union officials look like beggars, are getting richer, even during this deepening recession. It is time to reverse this. It is time to end the passive acceptance of great wealth, influence and control alongside massive unemployment, hopelessness and poverty. It is time to bring the issue of the distribution of wealth where it belongs - under the democratic control of the people. Politics is about power. Money is power. If democracy is to mean anything, all power, including money power, must be democratically limited by the people.

Don’t continue to be turkeys voting for Christmas. Don’t buy the nonsense from the rich and their hangers-on about high incomes being necessary to attract “talent”, the lie that “If you pay peanuts, you get monkeys”. We paid fortunes, and continue to pay fortunes, and we still got monkeys. Overpaid incompetents are continuing to cause crisis after crisis, while ordinary people’s lives are destroyed.

!00,000 euro (for example) per year should be more than enough for anyone. It should provide more than enough incentive to set up a business. It allows for the fact that some people work harder, or smarter, or more effectively than others. Thousands of successful co-operatives, large and small, the world over, use such a system. A maximum income was used in Japan after WWII. President Roosevelt in the US proposed such a system during WWII. A maximum income could be a temporary or a permanent measure. It could be modified/ revised/fine-tuned/ or repealed every five or ten years. The important thing is that ordinary people are finally given the freedom to vote on an issue of the most crucial importance to them and to society. Many democracies already have a minimum income. It is time to evolve further, towards real democracy, where the really important decisions are taken by the people, rather than by elitist political/bureaucratic cabals in cahoots with unelected business or financial sharks.

One can understand elites and their useful idiots frowning and shaking their heads and giving fifty reasons why it could never work, but for those on low or middle income to not even consider trying the idea is truly like turkeys continuing to vote for Christmas. As George Bush tried to say "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me." But to be fooled continually, again and again, year after year, all your life, to continue sucking up to the rich and authority, to continue, out of cynicism or naivete or apathy or despair, to do nothing, even when possible alternatives are proposed, is sheer lunacy.

Freud thought that the obsession with money was rooted in inadequate potty-training, Likewise, the famous economist Keynes said that "The love of money as a possession as distinguished from the love of money as a means to the enjoyments and realities of life will be recognized for what it is, a somewhat disgusting morbidity, one of those semi-criminal, semi-pathological propensities which one hands over with a shudder to the specialists in mental disease". Even a rich stooge like Winston Churchill could acknowledge that (the people) "will not tolerate the existing system by which wealth is acquired, shared and employed. . . . They will set their faces like flint against the money power, heir of all other powers and tyrannies overthrown, and its obvious injustices."

FIGHT THE MONEY POWER. SUPPORT FULL DEMOCRACY NOW.

author by Tpublication date Thu Oct 25, 2012 21:35Report this post to the editors

There must be figures somewhere perhaps with the CSO, Dept of Finance or Revenue with a breakdown of the number of people in the Civil Service by salary. If we could get hold of those figures then we could cut through some of the rubbish rants around this and focus in those that are earning the big money and figure out how much can be saved.

author by feduppublication date Fri Oct 26, 2012 00:35Report this post to the editors

this is not a matter of saving huge amounts of money, it's a matter of fair play and everyone being treated fairly.

This is currently not the case. That's why highly paid people both in and out of the public service need to be seen to be taking pain proportionately to how the weakest in society are having to.

Taking 100 euro flat tax off a person earning 50k is equivalent to taking 0.2% of their earnings

wheras for a social welfare recipient making 186 a week, it's a full 1% of their earnings.

Every flat tax hits a welfare recipient proportionally 5 times harder than a person earning 50k
The situation is twice as bad when compared to someone on 100k.

Plus that 1% is a greater proportion of their earnings.

If I take away 1% of the earnings of someone on 50k they are left with 49,500

If I take away 1% of the earnings of someone on 9672 they are left with 9575

Its not the same thing qualitatively at all.

The fact is higher paid people are much more insulated against what is going on than the poor who have hardly any insulation and feel the effects immediately. And it's these poor people that are being targetted while some sectors remain protected.

Of course the problem is really bailing out banks for absolutely no apparent gain (they are not really loaning money into the economy) and paying off foreign gambling debts that are not ours to begin with.

But since remedying that has been put off the table despite us being "special", we have to share out the problem in a fairer manner. It's not happening.

We need to see fairness or there will be problems. It's not about huge savings, it's about fairness.

author by D_D - Dublin Council of Trade Unionspublication date Mon Nov 05, 2012 17:27Report this post to the editors

Organised by

Dublin Council of Trade Unions
Communities Campaign Against Cuts
Campaign Against the Household and Water Taxes
Spectacle of Defiance

1 pm 24th November 2012
Parnell Square
Dublin 1

PDF Document dctu_pre_budget_demonstration_24_nov_2012_leaflet.pdf 0.06 Mb

author by D_D - DCTUpublication date Mon Nov 05, 2012 17:35Report this post to the editors

Dublin Council of Trade Unions
Joining with
Communities Campaign Against the Cuts
Campaign Against Household and Water Taxes
The Spectacle of Defiance

Pre Budget Demonstration –
No To Austerity!
Stop the cuts!
No to home taxes!
Tax the greedy not the needy!
For investment and jobs!

March & Rally
1 p.m. Saturday 24th November 2012
Garden of Remembrance,
Parnell Square, Dublin

Dublin Council of Trade Unions, Mandela House, 44 Lower Gardiner Street, Dublin, 1.
Phone: 087 2101370 ; Email: dctuforum@gmail.com

author by SENORPABLOpublication date Mon Nov 12, 2012 11:03Report this post to the editors

NATIONAL STRIKE

author by Con Carrollpublication date Sat Nov 17, 2012 00:17Report this post to the editors

not into Jesuitical political analysis.
Communities against the cuts good leaflet. lets challenege people, encourage people to come onto the streets in peaceful. proud of our class. lets lift the APATHY and FRUSTRATION. together

author by Chris Murraypublication date Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:26author email cjmurray at bluebottle dot comReport this post to the editors

This demo needs massive publicity!

The following may be of interest in the general debate on austerity....

In his recent Village article (November 2012), Constantin Gurdgiev ridicules the left for thinking that “the rich” are sitting on a pot of gold. While one can’t expect anything else from a servant of the rich, the 50 billion owned by Ireland’s richest 300 people looks pretty much like a pot of gold to me. It would pay for all the cuts demanded by the austerity fascists four times over. It would pay the annual household charge for the entire country 300 times over. However, this can-do hyper-capitalist immediately runs up the white flag at even the idea of trying to seriously tax the rich, citing capital flight – the very capital flight he, with breath-taking hypocrisy, through his company (St. Colombanus AG – specialists in hiding cash in secret Swiss bank accounts), enables. When it comes to the poor and the middle-class, however, Constantli Grudging grandly declares that “Ireland needs real austerity – deeper than the one being attempted today……. We should be aiming to cut current public expenditure by some 30% in 2012-2013”.

Constantli Curmudgiev may have been understandably traumatised by his Soviet Union experience, but there is no use throwing the democracy baby out with the Soviet state-capitalist bathwater. Prior to the Soviet Union, I’m sure the Tsar had loads of tame “economists” like Constantly Grumbling telling the population there was no point to all that democracy/socialism stuff, that even daring to suggest a redistribution of the Tsar’s wealth would lead to capital flight, act as a damper on inward investment by other royals and as a disincentive to entrepreneurial serf-owners, would upset the holy markets and mess up the metrics and optics horribly. And that the Tsar was not really all that rich anyway, and there were not all that many in the aristocracy earning above 100 squillion per year, and they were worth every rouble, and that many an unfortunate noble had to survive on estates of only a million or so hectares,. And that even if such redistribution succeeded, it would only lead to an average rise in income for the ordinary serf or peasant of 0.00001% or whatever (official OECD figures).

Even if the redistribution of this pot of gold wasn’t enough to make much difference, where do people get the idea, scoffed at by Constantli Grungi, of great riches being available for all? It’s a fiction perpetrated, surprise, surprise, by capitalism itself, a variation on the lottery scam, the idea that we can all, or most of us, get rich if we deserve it and work hard or smart enough. It’s a lie because, exactly as in a lottery, only a tiny proportion can win/get rich, and they can only do so with the absolute iron requirement that the vast majority of people DO NOT win/get rich, no matter how hard or smart they work, or how deserving they are. Buying the occasional lottery ticket is one thing. Basing an entire global economy on such a scam is insane.

The central point, maybe even the whole point, of redistributing wealth, or better still, of ensuring that vast inequalities of wealth and power do not arise in the first place, is to increase fairness, and to puncture the delusional bubble, cynically encouraged by capitalist propagandists, of riches for all. It is a simple question of modern, civilised values, of extending further the push of history towards greater democracy, equality and justice. Forty years after the Club of Rome’s warning, “Limits to Growth”, the anachronistic Gurdgiev is still wedded to the growth delusion, that you can bake a bigger cake so the poor will get bigger crumbs, as an excuse not to tax the rich. The solution to the environmental catastrophes that are upon us, and the survival of civilisation, depends upon our directly addressing the issues of wealth distribution, on our growing up, and most especially on the rich growing up, and asking how much money they really need, rather than continuing to behave like spoilt brats, endlessly demanding more, usually in a futile attempt to indirectly fill some emotional longing for love or warmth or companionship or belonging or good sex by stuffing themselves with food or toys or power or money. Civilisation, our environment, our planet, are being destroyed for nothing. Even establishment studies, with facts and figures and metrics galore, show that money, beyond a certain minimum requirement and parity with one’s peers, does not increase happiness. Freud thought the obsession of the rich with money was due to inadequate potty-training.

And from a practical point of view, in the long term a society will only really pull together if that society is perceived by its members as being fair. All this is something apparently lost on Constantin Gurrier, who argues instead for even less fairness, for less democracy, for making the poor pay more. He is part of a long line of tyrants and their mouthpieces down the ages, from business sharks to tsars to kings to emperors to pharaohs to the local warlord to slave-owners. Cantstandim Gurgling rehashes the old self-serving hypocrisy of the rich – that when you want the rich and powerful to work harder, you must reward and coddle them, you must help them hide their money, you must pay them more; but when you want the poor to work harder, you must threaten and abuse them, you must cut their paltry benefits, you must pay them less, or, preferably, nothing at all.

Benjamin Jowett, Master of Balliol, speaking about the Irish Famine, said that “I have always felt a certain horror of political economists, since I heard one of them say that he feared that the famine of 1848 in Ireland would not kill more than one million people, and that would scarcely be enough to do much good”. Constantli Scourging, another ideologue of the “free” market, another of those economists who know the price of everything and the value of nothing, who would top Marie Antoinette and cheerfully suggest “Let them eat nothing” to the poor, would have had a field day during the Irish Famine. I prefer the attitude of another Russian, Tolstoy, who clearly saw the hypocrisy of even the charitable rich: “I sit on a man's back, choking him, and making him carry me, and yet assure myself and others that I am very sorry for him and wish to ease his lot by any means possible, except getting off his back.”

Let Constantin Gurdgiev call for reduced state spending. Let him help implement 30% cuts. Even if he succeeds, since state spending is a means of damping down social dissent, he is cutting his own throat and those of his masters. If he wants to be on the wrong side of history, fine, let him, but let’s not join him. All out on Saturday 24th November for the protest!

Chris Murray.

author by D_D - DCTUpublication date Mon Nov 19, 2012 16:37Report this post to the editors

Time to Make our Voices Heard, Say Organisers of November 24th Anti-Austerity March

The groups organising the Anti-Austerity March on November 24th today (Monday, November 19th) held a joint press conference.

Chairing the press conference, Tommy McKearney, speaking on behalf of the Campaign Against Household and Water Taxes, said:

“The CAH&WT is urging all campaign members and supporters to take part in the national pre-budget anti-austerity demonstration in Dublin on Saturday 24th November. With the OECD reporting Ireland’s unemployment rate as the fourth highest among developed countries and clear evidence of household incomes falling, December’s budget must not cause still more damage through further cut-backs. The CAH&WT message is straight-forward : The Coalition must be told loud and clear on 24th November that it was not elected to impoverish the people”, Mr McKearney said.

Speaking on behalf of the Communities Against Cuts campaign, Lynda Scully said:

“This year’s budget will cut €1.7 billion from public expenditure. If the last five budgets are anything to go by, this will be disproportionately targeted at the poorest and most disadvantaged communities, devastating the community sector by removing local services and jobs. If this is allowed to happen we will see closures throughout the country in youth services, child-care, elder care, training and education projects, local and community development and drugs projects. This march is for the people to stand up and let the government know the last five budgets have not worked, and nor will this one".

John Bissett of the Spectacle of Defiance and Hope said:

“On Saturday November 24th community groups from all over Dublin and beyond will be joining the Spectacle of Defiance and Hope to articulate their anger at the continuation of austerity measures which will be further exacerbated in the upcoming Budget”.

Michael O’Reilly of the Dublin Council of Trade Unions said:

“After five austerity budgets, 300,000 of our fellow citizens are unemployed and one million people are living in deprivation. Yet on December 5th the Government is set to introduce the sixth austerity budget since the onset of the crisis. That is why we are asking people to join us on November 24th and send a clear message to Government Buildings in advance of the Budget: We need to change direction and start focussing on growth and investment rather than destructive cuts”.

ENDS

For further information contact:

John Bissett (Spectacle of Defiance and Hope) 087-9889132

David Connolly (Communities Against Cuts) 087-9073573

Gregor Kerr (Campaign Against Household and Water Taxes) 086-1501151

Alex Klemm (DCTU) 087-2606139

The November 24th Anti-Austerity March will take place at 1 pm on Saturday, November 24th, starting from Parnell Square

author by Tpublication date Tue Nov 20, 2012 21:56Report this post to the editors

People Before Profit have their own poster (below) for the pre-budget protest march on Saturday

pbp_nov_24.jpg

author by Sharon. - Individual.publication date Fri Nov 23, 2012 13:54Report this post to the editors

.....but not in support of the 'Parent Company' of the organisers.

Hi !

Myself (and my three daughters) will be taking part in this protest : I'll be there with other RSF supporters and members and, like them, I don't want my participation to be misinterpreted as support for the Trade Union leadership.
More comment on that subject can be found at the 'Related Link' , below.
Thanks,
Sharon.

One of the RSF placards for the 24th November 2012 protest in Dublin.
One of the RSF placards for the 24th November 2012 protest in Dublin.

Related Link: http://1169andcounting.blogspot.ie/2012/11/tomato-kille....html
author by joemcpublication date Sat Nov 24, 2012 18:06Report this post to the editors


RTe reports 1 3.56 24 November 2012
Up to 3,000 people have gathered for an anti-austerity rally in Dublin.

Rte reports 14 .28 : 24 November 2012
Up to 8,000 people are marching in an anti-austerity demonstration in Dublin.

RTe reports at 15 26 24 November 2012
Up to 18,000 people are marching in an anti-austerity demonstration in Dublin.

17:43 24 November 2012 24 November 2012
Numbers marching revised to 10,000 in anti-austerity protest

author by Shay Murphypublication date Sun Nov 25, 2012 01:44Report this post to the editors

It was great to see independent & community groups at the protest march, not just union banners. Some photos here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/xshayx/sets/72157632087599783

author by Sharon. - Individual.publication date Sun Nov 25, 2012 15:48Report this post to the editors

Hi !

Like the other approximately 20,000 protestors , I braved the icy conditions and other inconviences to take part in this protest and was one of the thousands that loudly voiced our displeasure at the TU leadership for seeking to 'manage' these savage cutbacks rather than stop them - and , like those other protestors, I have been labeled a "fascist" for doing so.
Jack and his fellow pet-rebels should consider physically moving into Leinster House before the next protest is held, as it is obvious that they are are there already , mentally and morally.
More comment re same (and links to protest pics) at the 'Related Link' , below.

Thanks,
Sharon.

A 'Gathering' of  "fascists" , according to Jack O'Connor.....
A 'Gathering' of "fascists" , according to Jack O'Connor.....

Related Link: http://1169andcounting.blogspot.ie/2012/11/dublin-auste....html
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