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category national | miscellaneous | news report author Saturday August 03, 2002 17:34author by Wayne Price - NHSSauthor email nhssworkers at mutualaid dot org Report this post to the editors

Anarchists engage in direct action as opposed to voting. This anti-electoralism (or anti-parliamentarianism) may seem strange and even perverse to many. After all, virtually the whole left believes in the importance of voting. In the US, liberals and state socialists have voted for the Democrats with a steadfastness that is almost religious, even as the Democrats have steadily moved to the right. In Western Europe, they have voted consistently for the Socialist or Labor Parties (social democrats), or Communist Parties, or, more recently, ex-Communist Parties. As a reward, in 1997, 12 out of the 15 members of the European Union were governed by left parties--including Britain, France, and Germany--or by coalitions with left parties in them. In the words of the old British Labor Party hymn, did they build a New Jerusalem? Was Europe on the verge of a new age of equality and justice? To ask the question is to

Direct Action Versus Electoralism

Anarchists engage in direct action as opposed to voting. This anti-electoralism (or anti-parliamentarianism) may seem strange and even perverse to many. After all, virtually the whole left believes in the importance of voting. In the US, liberals and state socialists have voted for the Democrats with a steadfastness that is almost religious, even as the Democrats have steadily moved to the right. In Western Europe, they have voted consistently for the Socialist or Labor Parties (social democrats), or Communist Parties, or, more recently, ex-Communist Parties.

As a reward, in 1997, 12 out of the 15 members of the European Union were governed by left parties--including Britain, France, and Germany--or by coalitions with left parties in them. In the words of the old British Labor Party hymn, did they build a New Jerusalem? Was Europe on the verge of a new age of equality and justice? To ask the question is to answer it. Within two years, the social democrats showed by their actions that they were just another face of the status quo. Throughout most of Europe they cut back on the welfare rights of the poor, decreased the rights of labor, and took part in the USA’s war against Serbia. Personnel had changed, but the state remained.

People throughout the world have fought and died for the right to vote. It took great suffering for the Russian people and the Black majority of South Africa to win the ballot. The fight for African-Americans to be able to vote in the South is a tale of heroism and blood. These were important victories which loosened up systems of tyranny and make it easier for the oppressed to organize. Anarchists supported these struggles and participated in them. Not because we valued the vote, but because this is what the people wanted. However, we do value the increased openness of capitalist democracy which makes it easier for the oppressed to organize.

They won the right to the vote. But anarchists point out the limitations of such victories. The peoples of Russia and South Africa, for example, now have the vote, but this has made no improvement in their living conditions: their extreme poverty, high unemployment, and threat of famine. US Blacks gained much by the end of overt Jim Crow, but they are still on the bottom of US society.

Anarchists are not always opposed to voting, and have occasionally participated in elections as anarchists (usually at a local level or in referendum) from Proudhon to Bookchin. What anarchists generally reject is voting as a strategy. However the question is not voting in the abstract, since they may expect to vote under anarchist democracy, inside communes or councils. The question is voting in the capitalist-racist-patriarchal state. Specifically, socialist anarchists reject the belief that the basic problems of society can be solved within the framework of democratic capitalism. The issue is not, “Is it good for the Russians (South Africans, US Blacks) to be able to vote?” but “Can the problems of Russia (South Africa, the US) be solved by a market economy under a bureaucratic state with representative elections (in other words, capitalist democracy)?” Anarchists do not believe that voting can be used to change democratic capitalism into socialism (what has been called “the parliamentary road to socialism”).

The state is their arena. It is the agency of the corporate rich and the power elite. To participate in elections requires money, status, and a willingness to play by their rules. By its very nature it encourages passivity and elitism. It requires people to campaign for a politician (even someone who starts out on the workers' side) who will act for the people, who will get into office and represent and lead us. Instead direct action--strikes, demonstrations, etc.-- rely on peoples' ability to act for themselves, without being limited to respectability and legality. It depends on the people's strengths: numbers, organization, the ability of workers to shut down industry, the ability of the people to disorganize the smooth functioning of the social machine.

Under capitalist democracy, voting has several related purposes. It binds the people to the state, letting them feel that they are free. Actually most people usually dislike both candidates and rarely feel any enthusiasm for either. But by being offered a “choice” they feel that they are masters of the state. (It is as if people were being offered either peppermint or pistachio ice cream, instead of chocolate or vanilla or cherry, and then told that this was a free choice.) Many are disaffected with the elections and do not bother to vote, but most are still proud to believe that they live in a democracy. It legitimatizes the state. (And it is fair to call it a capitalist democracy, as compared to various types of capitalist dictatorship, such as fascism, military rule, or Communist state capitalism. Both aspects are correct-- capitalist: the rule of a few through market mechanisms; democracy: the political rule of this capitalist minority through mechanisms of representative elections.)

Elections are also ways for the people to blow off steam, to express their dissatisfaction, especially when they get very dissatisfied. In the US, this is mostly done through insurgent candidacies within the two parties, although occasional third parties have surfaced. In the rest of the world, people can vote for socialist parties. If people are really unhappy, they can force the rulers to make some minor concessions. But the system works best at bringing the dissidents into the fold, getting them involved in working the system rather than fighting it.

This is not to say that elections are simply frauds (although there is a lot of fraud involved). Elections are also ways in which competing factions of the ruling class fight out their disagreements over state policy. The corporate rich and their paid agents have internal differences: shall they beat back the poor or throw them some crumbs? shall they expand military spending a lot or a little? shall they emphasize international trade or internal development? shall they bring a layer of Blacks into the system or push them all to the margins? and so on. Through elections, these disputes can be settled without bloodshed (usually). Of course, the real disputes are rarely openly discussed. Rather the voters are offered political entertainment to attract them to one faction or another.

Continued at www.dualpower.net . . .

Related Link: http://www.dualpower.net
author by tired of anarchistspublication date Sun Aug 04, 2002 10:09author address author phone Report this post to the editors

is it just me, or have anarchists become just as rigid in their thinking and 'ideology' as the Trotskyist/Maoist/Leninist/etc/etc sects of the Left?

When I read crap like this I wonder if I should be ashamed to be even vaguely connected to it or if I should use it to help me fall asleep at night?

Do the Washington DC Anarchists who wrote this think anyone really is interested in such verbage?

Time would be better spent organising than writing masturbation novels like this.

author by anarcho-syndicalistpublication date Sun Aug 04, 2002 17:19author address author phone Report this post to the editors

I thought this was a great article that explains very well why anarchists oppose parlamentarism and elections.And how it wont change anything!

author by redpublication date Mon Aug 05, 2002 00:13author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Very simplistic, the social democratic parties do not consider themselves revolutionaries or want to change society.
Marxists would agree that direct action such as occupations and strikes and the process of revolution itself is much better than parlimentarianism. Of course this isn't actually happening right now therefore not to use every platform we get is ultra left purism. In election campaigns we meet literally thousands of people and put forward socialist ideas. People who are not always easy to reach.
Pure parlimenatarianism of course won't get us far but just because you go for elections doesn't mean you don't do direct action. Its not one or the other. The problem with the anarchist idea of never going into elections, although the WSM do go for referendums whcich can be even less democratic than general elections as the gov. sets the question. Look at pakistans recent one for an extreme example. Means you are cutting yourselfd off from a possible audience of thousands and it can be possible to build a real force on the revolutionary left, which hasn't happened for a long time. If you are serios you sjhould be willing to get your hands dirty with the mundane as well as the exciting.

author by Ollie - Katalyzerpublication date Mon Aug 05, 2002 02:35author address author phone Report this post to the editors

I presume the purists in the anarchist movement will be campaigning for a no vote throughout the Nice campaign, as well as offering info on registration, in fact more than info, I will presume that they will go into their local County Council offices, pick up a bundle of those green forms for vote registration ,and post them out to all their mates. After all ,many of them may not be registered, being Anarchists, and may need the carrotty stick to encourage them to enter the fold, as it were....

If ever there was the potential for a strategic use of the vote (a vote essentially set by Europe, not the Irish Gov, as it happens), a chance to throw a hammer and sick-ill , sorry, a spanner into the works, its Nice 2.

I reckon, though can't prove, that many non-voters would prefer if the option not advocated by the government succeeded. At least a large part of the time. People doing well in 'boomtimes', tend not to rest on their laurels....they vote. Each and every one of them. Non-voters have, for example, no vested interest in supporting whatever they see as the status quo. many non-voters may, generally speaking, take on board the Anarchist argumentfor non-participation in electoral voting, but simply reject the notion that radical change is possible. They look at tiny voices ,or watered down voices, or voices outside the parliment's walls, and say...why bother?

However both Nice and the recent Abortion vote, were two examples of diverse groups coming, or rather ending up together, seeing common ground in being left 'out of consideration' for too long, and ,somehow, winning. Remember that some of these groups hate each other more than they hate the government.

As far as I know, and correct me if I'm wrong, but we are the only country in the EU to bother to have a vote on Nice. We're also the only to reject it.

To reject it twice is necessary, Imo, because
1 - Not one word has been changed in the actual treaty. (So I would encourage democratically aware citizens who voted 'yes' last time to actually vote 'no' this time..something actually is at stake here.)
2 - Europe (that means all of us living in Europe)needs to stop and have a debate with itself on what it is doing, where it is going, and what people really want.

And if they dream of not listening a second time, then we truely know what we are up against.

So , in sum, get out and get registered for this one, Anarchists included!

author by anarchopublication date Mon Aug 05, 2002 22:33author address author phone Report this post to the editors

"Very simplistic, the social democratic parties do not consider themselves revolutionaries or want to change society."

But the point is that the social democratic parties originally considered themselves "revolutionaries" and wanted to "change society." They *were* the Marxist movement for decades.

And as Bakunin predicted, their tactics made them reformist -- even worse, they (in the main) supported their state during the First World War and helped defeat the Italian and German revolutions.

As such, if anything is "very simplistic" it is the comments against the article. They just don't address the arguments or the historical precedence.

Related Link: http://www.anarchistfaq.org
author by Raypublication date Tue Aug 06, 2002 08:48author address author phone Report this post to the editors

It shouldn't have been posted here in its entirety, because its available elsewhere on the web. Post a summary and a link, no more...

author by red - sppublication date Thu Aug 15, 2002 02:04author address author phone Report this post to the editors

As far as I'm aware the Irish labour party never considered itself a revolutionary marxist party. Or the british, the were primarily trade union parties. In germany and Italy and france the communist parties were considered the revolutionaries not the social democratic parties. Also in Spain you had socialist and communists as well as anarchists which were part of the republican government.

The article talks about the social democratic governments in europe. These were the likes of Labour, the german spd which was always a reformist party (remebering reformisim origanally meant parties who wanted to reach socialism through reform). Italy is the only case I can think of where there was an ex communist party (the democratics of the left DS) in power.

"And as Bakunin predicted, their tactics made them reformist -- even worse, they (in the main) supported their state during the First World War and helped defeat the Italian and German revolutions."

The question of WW1 is a different question, which was the betrayal of the second international. This was a mass workers international but many of the leaderships were by no means revolutionary. A workers party is not necessarily revolutionary.
The parties of the 2nd international had much more influence outside of the parliments than they had inside. Many countries in europe were still monarchies at the time. So again the argument doesn't really fit.

BTW Lenin, Conolly and Luxemberg all opposed the war although they aren't anarchists favorite people!

But again talking about the situation today we should be going for elections to get out our message and use the seats as a platform.
We have become relatively well known (I say realitively) because of our use of the seat. And it allows us to get socialist and workers arguments out on a national level. I have yet to hear an actual critic of what joe has done or said wrong inside the dail. And if anything since the he got elected we have become more active not less, on the streets in communities and within unions.

All in all where there is a possibility to go for elections socialists should.

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