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32CSM Statement Re Military attacks

category national | miscellaneous | press release author Thursday March 12, 2009 22:56author by Frank Report this post to the editors

End The Conflict End British occupation

32 County Sovereignty Movement

12/03/2009

End The Conflict, End British Rule In Ireland

If the conflict in Ireland is to end once and for all, so too must the illegal British claim to sovereignty over the Six Counties. That has been made clear in light of the violent events of recent days. That the so called peace process failed to openly address this central core issue of conflict is the reason for its failure now. Attempts to cocoon the problem in a puppet British Assembly arguing along sectarian lines are doomed to failure. From the outset of this process the British government have moved to defend their illegal sovereign claim to Irelands territory. This was evident when they made it an absolute pre-condition that the entry fee into negotiations was the acceptance of a partitionist outcome. Once republican leaders acquiesced to this British demand the republican project within that process was doomed. As it limped from crisis to crisis its British and unionist credentials began to assert themselves. What also emerged was the clear fact that rather than accept their abject defeat in negotiations with the British, republican leaders dug deeper into the morass whilst making outlandish and unsustainable claims about achieving Irish unity by certain dates to keep supporters on board. It was a classic British trap. This British strategy has now reached its pinnacle with a Provisional Sinn Fein leader standing at Stormont, under the British flag, as a minister of the British crown, calling IRA Volunteers ‘traitors’ for continuing to resist British occupation.

We note the ritual chorus of condemnation emanating from Leinster House. Far from reflecting a unity of purpose it represents a bankruptcy of will from that institution to pursue the objective of a Sovereign Irish Republic. From its inception Leinster House abandoned the Irish people in the Six Counties. It abandoned them further under the terms of the Good Friday Agreement. It evolved a politics which made it a slave to vested interests. It is economically on its knees because of financial and political corruption at the highest level. It has selectively spurned its own referenda results because it lacked the courage to represent those results to the political elite in Europe. It is no position to lecture to anyone on any matter of substance.

From its inception the 32 County Sovereignty Movement has endeavored to place the issue of Irish National Sovereignty at the heart of the political process via peaceful methods. We sought to raise our concerns by pursuing our case at the United Nations only to have that peaceful route disbarred to us when London and Dublin petitioned Washington to have our organization declared illegal in the US. We petitioned all the main parties with detailed submissions but were met with silence. We sought peace. We seek peace, but we recognise clearly that this can only be achieved if true parity is brought to a negotiations process. Britain’s claim to have ‘no selfish, strategic or economic reasons’ to remain in Ireland is laid bare when one sees its use of Irish soil to train and dispatch British soldiers to kill in foreign wars. The British are not neutral in Ireland, no more than they are in Afghanistan or Iraq. To allow them to claim this, which the Good Friday Agreement does, represents a massive abdication of duty and responsibility by all those supposed nationalists who support it. The recent loss of life as a result of military action is yet another tragedy in the continuing conflict in Ireland. What is required to resolve it is an end to British Parliamentary activity in Ireland so that the people of the island can come to their own democratic arrangements as to how we govern ourselves.

Related Link: http://www.32csm.info/press.html

 #   Title   Author   Date 
   Democracy trumps self-appointed guardians of the national sovereignty     Jim    Fri Mar 13, 2009 14:07 
   Republican Anarchism     Cael    Fri Mar 13, 2009 15:35 
   Probably worth reading the ideas of Anarchism first     tom    Fri Mar 13, 2009 16:35 
   Or     Andrew    Fri Mar 13, 2009 17:08 
   take with or to?     sophia    Fri Mar 13, 2009 19:15 
   US?     Peter Mahon    Fri Mar 13, 2009 19:38 
   FAO Peter     Frank    Fri Mar 13, 2009 20:22 
   Unjust, inhuman and wrong     Justin Morahan    Sat Mar 14, 2009 09:37 
   RSF Spokesman Misrepresented     Richard Walsh    Sat Mar 14, 2009 16:00 
 10   No Peace until British Rule Ends     Jacqueline Fallon    Sat Mar 14, 2009 16:12 
 11   Question for Jacqueline Fallon     Non-Republican    Sat Mar 14, 2009 17:19 
 12   Traitors     Kevin T. Walsh    Sat Mar 14, 2009 18:03 
 13   The elephant in the room.     Sharon .    Sat Mar 14, 2009 19:01 
 14   Murder or No     Mark C    Sat Mar 14, 2009 19:11 
 15   Traitors     K.T. Walsh    Sat Mar 14, 2009 19:42 
 16   Question for Sharon     Non-Republican    Sat Mar 14, 2009 19:44 
 17   In reply.     Sharon .    Sat Mar 14, 2009 20:30 
 18   Off the fence please     Non-Republican    Sat Mar 14, 2009 20:45 
 19   Look over 'the fence' , please.     Sharon .    Sat Mar 14, 2009 23:53 
 20   Morally indefensible     Dan Langrishe    Sun Mar 15, 2009 00:28 
 21   Choices, and unanswered questions     Non-Republican    Sun Mar 15, 2009 09:44 
 22   Freedom of Speech / express But Be Equitabl in your judgment     Kevin T. Walsh    Sun Mar 15, 2009 14:02 
 23   Another diversion     B.O'Brien    Sun Mar 15, 2009 15:51 
 24   Able to have a civilised debate?     Diarmuid    Sun Mar 15, 2009 16:26 
 25   Lordy Lordy, now the terrorism apologists taunt the SWP ceasefire! will it hold?     Dumbo    Sun Mar 15, 2009 17:00 
 26   Justice. Revive knowledge of Philosopher....Look to the Philosophy of Pacifism     Michelle Clarke    Sun Mar 15, 2009 17:27 
 27   Enough!     Dan Murphy    Sun Mar 15, 2009 19:06 
 28   Soapbox Indignation     Frank    Sun Mar 15, 2009 22:47 
 29   cul de sac     puca    Mon Mar 16, 2009 00:46 
 30   replies prove the point     Diarmuid    Mon Mar 16, 2009 03:36 
 31   yes, reading and learning     puca    Mon Mar 16, 2009 04:08 
 32   Kevin T Walsh and Dan Murphy     Starling    Mon Mar 16, 2009 11:05 
 33   Condemnation?     Adam Rafferty    Mon Mar 16, 2009 14:03 
 34   Traitors and Humanity     K.T. Walsh    Mon Mar 16, 2009 14:58 
 35   Witchhunters begone!     McCarthy    Mon Mar 16, 2009 16:26 
 36   McCarthy my a**e     Adam Rafferty    Tue Mar 17, 2009 00:07 
 37   Biggest Threat to Peace = British Rule     Jacqueline Fallon    Tue Mar 17, 2009 01:44 
 38   Well Said , Jacqueline.     Sharon.    Tue Mar 17, 2009 13:12 
 39   Unaswered questions     Non-Republican    Tue Mar 17, 2009 13:31 
 40   'Answering questions' is a two-way street.     Sharon .    Tue Mar 17, 2009 14:20 
 41   Traitors......     Kevin T. Walsh    Tue Mar 17, 2009 18:05 
 42   Kevin Walsh     Frank    Tue Mar 17, 2009 19:01 
 43   Unanswered questions remain     Amused    Tue Mar 17, 2009 19:16 
 44   Amused Indeed.     Frank    Tue Mar 17, 2009 20:16 
 45   No answer?     Amused    Tue Mar 17, 2009 21:16 
 46   Those 'elephants' are haunting all of us , Kevin.     Sharon .    Tue Mar 17, 2009 21:20 
 47   Amused     Frank    Tue Mar 17, 2009 21:36 
 48   Lies not going to work I'm afraid     McCarthy    Tue Mar 17, 2009 22:01 
 49   Thanks Frank     Amused    Tue Mar 17, 2009 22:28 
 50   I need clarification for the hagiography :     ballad writer    Tue Mar 17, 2009 22:32 
 51   Amused     Frank    Tue Mar 17, 2009 23:01 
 52   A last effort     Amused (but not really....)    Tue Mar 17, 2009 23:20 
 53   Dialogue, a Forum for Debate & Addressing the Conflict Required at this time     Jacqueline Fallon    Tue Mar 17, 2009 23:47 
 54   Thank God for a voice of reason     Concerned Irish citizen    Wed Mar 18, 2009 00:01 
 55   Why are IRA splinters ''thugs '' and British troops '' Young innocent lads '' ?     Irish-American Socialist    Wed Mar 18, 2009 00:07 
 56   Peace: John Lenin. Imagine......Where is the morality for murders by thugs?     Kevin T. Walsh    Wed Mar 18, 2009 01:13 
 57   can't see the wood for the propaganda     Jack    Wed Mar 18, 2009 01:30 
 58   can't see the wood for the propaganda     Jack    Wed Mar 18, 2009 01:30 
 59   Thugs and Closure     Kevin T. Walsh    Wed Mar 18, 2009 08:10 
 60   Amused     Frank    Wed Mar 18, 2009 08:28 
 61   Jacqueline Fallon's false prognosis     Adam Rafferty    Wed Mar 18, 2009 09:23 
 62   Time to move on     Amused    Wed Mar 18, 2009 10:41 
 63   Amused     Frank    Wed Mar 18, 2009 11:50 
 64   End it     Amused    Wed Mar 18, 2009 12:20 
 65   Frank - ness?     Adam Rafferty    Wed Mar 18, 2009 13:26 
 66   Amused-Less     Frank    Wed Mar 18, 2009 18:17 
 67   Answer the questions     Adam Rafferty    Wed Mar 18, 2009 18:27 
 68   Rafferty     Frank    Wed Mar 18, 2009 18:31 
 69   Don't be so tetchy     Frank    Wed Mar 18, 2009 18:34 
 70   Sectarian     Adam Rafferty    Wed Mar 18, 2009 19:23 
 71   The semantics of "military attacks".     ballad writer    Wed Mar 18, 2009 20:19 
 72   Rafferty     Frank    Wed Mar 18, 2009 20:30 
 73   Frank and cuckoos     Adam Rafferty    Thu Mar 19, 2009 18:41 
 74   Rafferty     Frank    Thu Mar 19, 2009 19:24 
 75   The end     Adam Rafferty    Fri Mar 20, 2009 10:43 
 76   Adam Rafferty     Frank    Fri Mar 20, 2009 12:24 
 77   Success versus failure     Reader    Fri Mar 20, 2009 12:39 
 78   Reader     Frank    Fri Mar 20, 2009 17:21 
 79   What is possible - and what is not     Reader    Fri Mar 20, 2009 20:19 
 80   Reader     Frank    Fri Mar 20, 2009 21:01 
 81   Reality vs fantasy     Reader    Fri Mar 20, 2009 21:10 
 82   Reader     Frank    Fri Mar 20, 2009 22:21 
 83   ???     Another entrant in the battle    Fri Mar 20, 2009 23:08 
 84   fact     pixie    Fri Mar 20, 2009 23:46 
 85   Reality     Frank    Sat Mar 21, 2009 00:21 
 86   Economics of the equation     Shane    Sat Mar 21, 2009 00:28 
 87   Pacifism is neither a cocoon nor a comfort blanket     Justin Morahan    Sat Mar 21, 2009 02:32 
 88   ??     Reader    Sat Mar 21, 2009 09:03 
 89   Reader     Frank    Sat Mar 21, 2009 16:31 
 90   Pacifism     Frank    Sat Mar 21, 2009 16:35 
 91   Dead end     Reader    Sat Mar 21, 2009 17:10 
 92   Reader     Frank    Sat Mar 21, 2009 18:47 
 93   Encompassing All Traditions in a United Ireland     Jacqueline Fallon    Sat Mar 21, 2009 23:09 
 94   A summary     Irishman    Sun Mar 22, 2009 09:16 


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