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category national | arts and media | other press author Tuesday January 29, 2008 09:04author by Mariella Froster Report this post to the editors

Mutinous posters protest at censorship

Posters on politics.ie will be familiar with the vitriol directed at Indymedia. Accusations of stasi style censorship are routine. For some time now, however, the fact that censorhip on politics.ie is more frequent, arbitrary and subjective than anything seen on many other sites has become pretty obvious.

Resentment erupted last weekend when long term poster and former site moderator 'DOD' posted a thread entitled 'Fcek this censorhip. I'm off'. It was a protest , in what was the last straw for DOD, at the banning of yet another poster 'Armchair Activist' - this time for making a joke. It was subsequently explained by a mod that the banning had been temporary but longterm posters had in the meantime flocked to the thread to express their support in an unusal display of impertinence, for p.ie posters that is. Truth be told, as stasi style censorhip goes, politics.ie would be hard to beat . For the main part, if you want to get along with the mods on p.ie, you must exhibit a cringe-making deference to the site's owner, David Cochrane and his team. To see grown men and women debase themselves like this with such frequency is not a pretty sight.

But is there something more sinister afoot? I've been visiting p.ie regularly now for several months on a sort of media activist's mission to express some alternative reality over there. As Chomsky says, you never know the difference even one person might make. There are several others who are obviously similarly motivated. The site is alleged to be frequented by local and national political representatives and at least one senator contributes from time to time, to my certain knowledge.

Among the topics I've focused on have been Bertie Ahern's shameful evidence to the Mahon Tribunal, (most recently, 'Sindo admits 'Bertie must seize chance to reform'!!!) and Israel's role in Palestine. One of the regular posters to the latter topic whenever it comes up is said to have admitted to being a former member of Mossad ('L'Chaim'). There may be some truth in it given the virulently anti Palestinaian and pro Israeli nature of what he says - and the level of knowledge he displays about Israel's political and military activity. Any thread that tackles the subject of Israeli conduct in Palestine will see L'Chaim sitting on it all day every day for days on end if necessary - anything so long as he ensures he gets the last word. He was particularly angry with me on Sunday.

Another subject I've paid particular attention to has been the atrocious nature of the Fianna Fail party, its corruption and its arrogance in everything from Harney and her privatising mission at health to the ignorance and viciousness of what is being done at Tara, Shannon and elsewhere. None of this goes down at all well. DC is a darling of the political establishment who has won awards for his site and it certainly is not because of the contributions of posters like me or a few others I could mention.

Inexplicably, and under a different moniker, my access to the site was cut off just before Christmas. No explanation, no breach of editorial guidelines - just a lot of posts that were getting up certain noses over there. My last exchange on the site under that other incarnation was with a mod who disagreed with what I was saying about GW Bush having awarded himself the discretion to seize hold of power unilaterally - that is over every organ of government and state - in the event of any 'terrorist disaster' - defined in such broad terms that a person merely picking their nose in Butan could be used as justification, arguably. (US imperialism has been another favourite topic and again something Ive been giving them a hard time about over there - along with other lefty folk. All of these sites (Indymedia included) are routinely watched by the intelligence services. So having a go at the US on a big public site like p.ie does not go down well either. Neither is it without other significance: the site has a huge number of regular users and it draws major advedrtising revenue from some big names. Lefties are neither wanted nor welcomed - we are not the demographic that DC relies on to draw advertising revenue, Im pretty certain. At any rate, I wouldn't be candidate for one of the General Electric loans currently being advertised on a pair of tits on a headline banner with boring regularity. Nor am I likely to take up the offer of a chance to date any of the Chinese women desperately advertising themselves via a Google ad in the hope of finding love and marriage with a western man.

Despite a few emails to the moderators asking why I was banned beofre Christmas, no reply was forthcoming. So, reverting to the Mariella Froster persona, I straightened up and carried on. Yesterday, however the same thing happened. Call me paranoid, but I can't help wondering if my banishment has anything to with having posted a particularly sarcastic piece about the Sunday Independent's coverage of the Ahern tribunal. (BTW Im convinced at least one of the well known protagonists in that saga is posting on p.ie.) Then again I did say that a couple of the mods were a bit dim on that rebellion thread I mentioned earlier. In my defence, I have tolerated heaps of virulent abuse about my political orientation without so much as a murmur. Democracy it aint over there.

So, banished again. Again, no explanation -just summary justice - a virtual police state. Account deactivated, etc etc. Having attempted to re-register under yet another identity, my access to the site is restricted - suggesting that this time, they've decided to go one step further and track my IP. While messages tell me that there are 'errors' whenever I try to post or interact with the site, other users are clearly having no difficulty at all. I can look but I cannot touch - not even to bring you the links that are relevant to what I say above. I'm wondering if any others have had similar treatment. I wonder if any p.ie poster would dare to link the relevant threads to this site.

This is not about personal pique - it's about free speech. What's happening on that site is the same as is happening in the traditional mainstream media. The rationale used to justify much of the censorhip on p.ie is frequently 'it's 'Dave's' site, he can do with he likes with it. ' Yeah, sure, just like Tony O' Reilly does with his 'Indpendent' newspapers.

 #   Title   Author   Date 
   Forgot to mention     Mariella Froster    Tue Jan 29, 2008 09:18 
   I read your articles     Concerned Left winger    Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:06 
   quite a strange site     Barry    Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:10 
   p.ie     anon    Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:40 
   Another site     Mariella    Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:21 
   video banned from site     heligoland    Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:02 
   Agree     Mariella    Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:28 
   instead of complaining...     ((i)).ie    Tue Jan 29, 2008 13:04 
   BB chat     h    Tue Jan 29, 2008 13:32 
 10   Get over it     Numpty    Tue Jan 29, 2008 14:55 
 11   Yeah sure     Mariella    Tue Jan 29, 2008 15:41 
 12   Maybe this?     Mike    Tue Jan 29, 2008 16:02 
 13   employee of war industry.     Sean Bernays    Wed Jan 30, 2008 02:46 
 14   cropbeye from p.ie     cropbeye    Thu Jan 31, 2008 18:35 
 15   Insufferable.     Goblin    Thu Jan 31, 2008 19:32 
 16   A hotbed of racism.     Angry.    Fri Feb 01, 2008 02:26 
 17   Some prespective please     Chekov    Fri Feb 01, 2008 02:46 
 18   Angry - RAR     observer    Fri Feb 01, 2008 09:30 
 19   Well Chekov, a little perspective is right     Mariella    Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:41 
 20   A thread about a thread     Twilight Zoner    Fri Feb 01, 2008 11:56 
 21   free for now     observatore    Fri Feb 01, 2008 11:57 
 22   Good post Observatore     arturo    Fri Feb 01, 2008 12:17 
 23   To observatore     Moonbat watch    Fri Feb 01, 2008 12:33 
 24   Policy     Dan Sullivan    Fri Feb 01, 2008 12:33 
 25   Bullshit     Mariella    Fri Feb 01, 2008 13:07 
 26   More mistruths     Dan Sullivan    Fri Feb 01, 2008 13:33 
 27   daf     fhg    Fri Feb 01, 2008 14:11 
 28   Dan S     Mariella    Fri Feb 01, 2008 14:20 
 29   fhg     Lurkalot    Fri Feb 01, 2008 14:29 
 30   Oh no you don't     Dan Sullivan    Fri Feb 01, 2008 14:42 
 31   Nonsense     Mariella    Fri Feb 01, 2008 15:16 
 32   Who is being dishonest?     Dan Sullivan    Fri Feb 01, 2008 15:44 
 33   Sites down?     Beatrice    Fri Feb 01, 2008 15:50 
 34   There are server errors all over dublin     C    Fri Feb 01, 2008 17:34 
 35   DOD     piebald    Fri Feb 01, 2008 19:10 
 36   C and Beatrice     Mariella    Fri Feb 01, 2008 19:11 
 37   Libertas, my a**     Libertylover    Wed Feb 20, 2008 14:50 
 38   Paddle     Carmel    Wed Feb 20, 2008 15:05 
 39   To make it easier :)     Carmel    Wed Feb 20, 2008 15:09 
 40   Hard to log on     Cael    Wed Feb 20, 2008 19:18 
 41   Self-Serving Tripe     corkman2007    Wed Mar 05, 2008 19:40 
 42   why is p.ie down     hasty    Wed Mar 05, 2008 20:17 
 43   Down and Out     Lu Lu    Wed Mar 05, 2008 23:54 
 44   P.ie shut down?     Bryce    Thu Mar 06, 2008 08:46 
 45   P.ie down?     Starkadder    Thu Mar 06, 2008 13:08 
 46   Waves of refugees     Chekov    Thu Mar 06, 2008 13:46 
 47   what happened     on the one road    Thu Mar 06, 2008 15:51 
 48   ?     Don    Thu Mar 06, 2008 16:44 
 49   Crackers     Chekov    Thu Mar 06, 2008 17:00 
 50   Run for the hills     runfordahills    Thu Mar 06, 2008 17:30 
 51   politics.die?     Slartibuckfast    Thu Mar 06, 2008 18:22 
 52   Down but not out?     Starkadder    Thu Mar 06, 2008 20:22 
 53   p.ie outage     ibis    Thu Mar 06, 2008 22:16 
 54   politics.ie     sid    Sat Mar 29, 2008 21:41 
 55   Its f*cking down again.     Green days    Wed Apr 16, 2008 09:40 
 56   it's ok     Ceann    Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:19 
 57   P.ie down     Raketemensch    Sun Jun 21, 2009 02:48 
 58   Cochrane an employee of Rivada     Major Religious Superior    Wed Jun 24, 2009 15:18 
 59   Who gives a f**k?     Guy The Bore    Thu Jun 25, 2009 19:00 
 60   politics.ie     jakdelad    Sun Jun 28, 2009 22:21 
 61   Politics.ie     John    Fri Jul 31, 2009 14:43 
 62   Bannings and Protests at Politics.Ie     Libertas My Arse    Wed Aug 05, 2009 11:13 
 63   Libertas , Ganley     NOAgain !    Wed Aug 05, 2009 14:40 
 64   New forum     John    Thu Aug 06, 2009 19:36 
 65   People are Free. Sure.     Libertas My Arse    Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:11 
 66   An alternative place to post     Graculus    Wed Dec 23, 2009 19:50 
 67   Emasculation of thought on P.ie     donkylemore    Fri Jan 08, 2010 15:03 
 68   I got banned...     Jolly Red Giant    Fri Jan 08, 2010 16:21 
 69   Spoted this on politics ie     Foyleview    Sat Jan 09, 2010 01:43 
 70   Hard to log on by Cael     Foyleview    Sat Jan 09, 2010 01:49 
 71   Limericck Fideles     donkylemore    Sat Jan 09, 2010 04:36 
 72   haggard     km    Sat Jan 09, 2010 06:12 
 73   In agreement     genky    Sun Jan 10, 2010 12:59 
 74   Cochrane has reffered to advertising income     Genky    Tue Jan 19, 2010 17:45 
 75   why are new members banned from politics.ie?     Stephen    Thu Jan 21, 2010 13:10 
 76   Politics.ie     Immigrant    Fri Apr 23, 2010 10:37 
 77   Launch of Politicalworld.org     C Flower    Mon Apr 26, 2010 02:10 
 78   Politicalworld.org     John    Thu May 06, 2010 02:05 
 79   Thanks for the links     children_of_lir    Thu May 06, 2010 14:26 
 80   Political world.ie     My Beautiful Tomohawkl    Sat Aug 28, 2010 21:51 
 81   Banned for having a "thought"     Lazarus    Wed Mar 09, 2011 23:44 
 82   Politics.ie is a right wing propaganda machine     Sam    Thu Apr 21, 2011 17:59 
 83   I Spy.net     Mike    Sat Apr 23, 2011 01:58 
 84   Devious censorship at Politics.ie     Fongo Veckymay    Thu Jun 16, 2011 15:58 
 85   wouldn't use that site anyhoo     copyright    Thu Jun 16, 2011 19:32 
 86   Politics.ie     chriskavo    Tue Nov 08, 2011 22:57 
 87   Politics Dot Ay eeeee     On the bench    Mon Mar 02, 2015 11:33 
 88   start a new account     pie balled    Mon Mar 02, 2015 23:20 
 89   What has happened to politics.ie forum?     shiel    Fri Jun 09, 2017 17:06 
 90   Hey!     Ceka    Fri Jun 09, 2017 17:22 
 91   Something strange going on.     cropbeye    Tue Aug 01, 2017 13:02 
 92   political debate     Turps    Tue Aug 01, 2017 16:49 
 93   lack of political commentary here     cynical activist    Tue Aug 08, 2017 07:29 


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