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category national | miscellaneous | news report author Monday June 16, 2003 11:00author by Durutti Report this post to the editors

Threats Of Legal Action Forces Deletion Of Comments (See Comments and Summary for a Note from IMCer)

One law for the "Socialist" Party, another for everyone else. If you criticise the SP from now on then you may be sued for libel. (Since this headline by Duritti involves IMC I'm commenting on it here - SP Did Not Censor Indymedia - Indymedia Editors did - and for more complicated reasons than 'Duritti' would care to admit. Those reasons are sketched out in a post in comments from me. Keep in Mind Duritti is obviously hanging around on the lists that organise the site and knows this complexity exists). Eamonn (1 of IMC IRL)

The following was sent to the Indymedia Editorial List:

"From: OisĖn Kelly
mailto:oisinkelly@hotmail.com

Editors,

I wish to draw your attention to a comment on IMC Newswire that is libelous in my opinion. "Durutti" in a comment on the article "electronic voting" made accusations that the Socialist Party were involved in electoral fraud.

"SP Hackers
by Durutti Thu, Jun 12 2003, 2:38pm

The SP hacked the computers in Dublin North and almost got Clare Daly elected."

In this thread "Ray" also made similar accusations of electoral fraud and intimidation of polling clerks.

"I know someone who works in the counting centres
by Ray Thu, Jun 12 2003, 2:44pm

And he said that Joe Higgins only got elected in the first place because of SP ballot-stuffing. My source was threatened into silence, so I can't give any more details."

On the Newswire there have been threats against Socialist Party members. "Durutti" made the following remark in a comment to the article "SWP split over Direct Action":

"when the Black Bloc arrive then there will certainly be trouble. It wont be just restricted to your paper sellers..." (Fri, Jun 13 2003, 2:34pm)

I will say it again to the editors, these accusations are NOT satire, they are libelous comments that are published on a website that YOU are editors of.

I think it would be a good idea if you remove ALL comments and articles that may put the IMC in risk of legal action.

I have a copy of this communication on paper.

Yours Sincerely,

OisĖn Kelly,
14-6-2003"

The SP accuse the Black Bloc of police infiltration, of fascist infiltration, of being terrorists, they lie about Shannon. They claim that I supported Labour. They lied about SP members in QUB supporting loyalist motions.

But if anyone criticises the SP in return then they threaten legal action. Its not just the Parliamentary Road To Socialism any more. Now they take the high road to the High Court.


 #   Title   Author   Date 
   And who said trots were humourless     Joe    Mon Jun 16, 2003 11:07 
   Threat of Legal Action No Laughing Matter     pat c    Mon Jun 16, 2003 11:12 
   Not just Oisin     Legal Eagle    Mon Jun 16, 2003 11:14 
   A Modest Proposition     pat c    Mon Jun 16, 2003 11:24 
   Frightening     Magneto    Mon Jun 16, 2003 11:36 
   Protest To The SP About This     Hebe    Mon Jun 16, 2003 11:49 
   Hebe - thanks but we are ok to stand up for ourselves - This is factually incorrect anyway     Eamonn Crudden    Mon Jun 16, 2003 12:08 
   Duritti is trolling again look at him/her go     ec    Mon Jun 16, 2003 12:22 
   This is not the way to deal with sniping     Chekov    Mon Jun 16, 2003 12:22 
 10   If this is true it's a disgrace     mick    Mon Jun 16, 2003 12:43 
 11   Eamon     pat c    Mon Jun 16, 2003 12:44 
 12   pat     ec    Mon Jun 16, 2003 12:54 
 13   Eamon     pat c    Mon Jun 16, 2003 13:08 
 14   EC Trolling Again     Durutti    Mon Jun 16, 2003 13:20 
 15   I think you've just proved my point Durutti - U R a troll - and you don't like it being highlighted     ec    Mon Jun 16, 2003 13:30 
 16   Durutti you leave out half the story from the mailing lists!     tourettes r us    Mon Jun 16, 2003 13:43 
 17   You should not be surprised     Sharon    Mon Jun 16, 2003 13:58 
 18   Daithi To The Rescue!     legle eagle    Mon Jun 16, 2003 13:59 
 19   One troll disappears - another appears with the same line -     .    Mon Jun 16, 2003 15:16 
 20   The same line     D supporter    Mon Jun 16, 2003 15:53 
 21   why not upload the film then?     suspicious    Mon Jun 16, 2003 16:19 
 22   What the Sp, didn't want you to know     Bakunin the USSR    Mon Jun 16, 2003 16:29 
 23   rational discussion     Gaz    Mon Jun 16, 2003 16:38 
 24   To suspicious     D supporter    Mon Jun 16, 2003 17:18 
 25   would it be too much for the gallery to be told Mr Durruti's real name?     i    Mon Jun 16, 2003 18:48 
 26   The Irish Left     Gaz - independent libertarian socialist    Mon Jun 16, 2003 20:27 
 27   Re:Your conditions of use are a little non libertarean Gaz     Gaz    Mon Jun 16, 2003 21:57 
 28   continued..sorry i pressed the wrong button.     Gaz    Mon Jun 16, 2003 22:04 
 29   CJB - the worst thing since CJH ;)     Daithi    Mon Jun 16, 2003 22:20 
 30   IP adresses     Gaz    Mon Jun 16, 2003 22:26 
 31   Clarification     Daithi    Mon Jun 16, 2003 22:36 
 32   thanx 4 the clarification, all the paranoid stoner socialists can sleep tight     Gaz    Mon Jun 16, 2003 22:39 
 33   oh, and...     Daithi    Mon Jun 16, 2003 22:49 
 34   thanx!     Gaz    Mon Jun 16, 2003 22:55 
 35   based on San Fran IMC page.     time for editorial change to front page    Mon Jun 16, 2003 23:04 
 36   For fuck sake     a dave    Tue Jun 17, 2003 01:04 
 37   Sticking to the point.     Brian Cahill    Tue Jun 17, 2003 03:20 
 38   Misled?     pat c    Tue Jun 17, 2003 10:04 
 39   Wow     Ray    Tue Jun 17, 2003 13:13 
 40   Ray You Sure Did!     pat c    Tue Jun 17, 2003 13:41 
 41   Look over there!     The Judaean People's front.    Tue Jun 17, 2003 17:45 
 42   Careful What You Say     Magneto    Wed Jun 18, 2003 09:53 
 43   this is why the left is pathetic     nuts    Thu Jun 19, 2003 18:48 
 44   Who attacked who?     Joe    Fri Jun 20, 2003 17:36 
 45   lol     pasionaria    Tue Sep 23, 2003 04:50 


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