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category international | miscellaneous | opinion/analysis author Sunday November 24, 2013 18:50author by Mark and Kathryn Llewellyn-Jones Report this post to the editors

Statement from Mark and Kathryn Llewellyn-Jones.

In a recent story on this website it was reported that a number of companies who had acted as agents for Metro Property Group in Detroit are facing litigation and/or have ceased trading.
Comments on this story were posted by an individual named Finn in which he or she openly accuses the plaintiffs in the lawsuit of serious criminal activity and bankruptcy.
In May this year the Irish company, Brendan Investments, publicly backed Metro Property Group in Detroit and the individual named Finn appears to be posting on the company's behalf.

An individual named Finn has used this site to openly accuse the plaintiffs in a lawsuit, filed in the US against Metro Property Group Detroit, of criminal activity. In his or her various posts Finn has repeatedly accused the plaintiffs of operating a ‘shakedown’ - urban slang for extortion or blackmail.

Finn also openly states on this site, in posts specifically targeting the lead plaintiff in the case, that she is a ‘bankrupt’ and openly questions ‘who did you do when you went bankrupt’?

We request that the individual called Finn reveals his or her true identity and would like to know if he or she is prepared to stand by these false and very serious allegations of extortion and blackmail, as well as the many other entirely false accusations which include, bankruptcy, being an agent working for a UK based company, refusing a refund of money by Metro Property Group in Detroit and having a hateful racist and/or religious motive for bringing this case against the company. It would appear from his or her postings that Finn is a representative of Brendan Investments and we would like to know if this is the case. We will not engage in any way with an unknown party.

We are among many victims who have lost their life savings to Metro Property Group and we stand by the allegations made in the lawsuit. We have filed in excess of 70 exhibits to prove the claims, including forged leases, proof of fake rental payments and proof of fake evictions, We are also committed to seeing this case bought to trial and the defendants exposed, regardless of attacks such as the one made by Finn which are commonplace

author by Unansweredpublication date Mon Nov 25, 2013 09:03Report this post to the editors

Reading the posts, it is clear you are the posters that have been actively posting information anonymously on websites in advance of due process. You've come on record only after being questioned. There still are questions you have not answered that are glaring holes in your campaign

There are no fraud charges against anyone, it is a civil suit with civil claims, so why persist with this fiction?

There is no police investigation after two to three years, why not?

Where are the hundreds you allege coming forward in this 'giant' ponzi scheme?

You did file through a part time solicitor identified by the Council for American Islamic Relations as the USA's most bigoted person, why would you chose to do that?

You admit refeence in your filing about the Irish firm investing €15m in Metro is based on rumour so why continue with it despite a company statement making clear that it's relationship is as a supplier of service?

author by fredpublication date Mon Nov 25, 2013 11:29Report this post to the editors

@unanswered/finn

Who are you? If you have nothing to hide and are doing the right thing in the interests of informing the public purely out of altruism here then reveal your identity so the public can thank you.

author by Unansweredpublication date Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:46Report this post to the editors

You continue to avoid answering simple observations like (a) There is no fraud charge, its a civil suit, (b) Why no police investigation, (c) Where are the hundreds in the alleged 'giant ponzi scheme - its been six months and you are the only one's posting on-line.

Here is another media report on a counter-filing. It states that the plaintiffs were in fact acting as property selling agents commissioned by UK-based firm USA Direct, a matter missing from the filing. So you are property professionals then? How much money did you make selling on these units with massive mark ups? Are either of you a bankrupt?

You complain about the questions being posed but when you read both filings, these questions as above are valid and the question about whether it is a shake down is also valid. You bought three units and you're suing for $6,400,000 per house!

By Joe Slezak
Press & Guide Newspapers

DETROIT — A Dearborn-based company that buys foreclosed houses in Detroit has filed a counterclaim against a group suing it.

Metro Property Group LLC filed the counterclaim July 30 in U.S. District Court, asking a judge to order plaintiffs Kathryn and Mark Llewellyn-Jones to stop trying to interfere with the company’s business relationships and stop making claims that the houses its buys and rehabilitates are “virtually worthless on the open market.”

The Llewellyn-Joneses are United Kingdom citizens and United Arab Emirates residents. They are among eight people who filed a federal lawsuit against Metro Property Group on May 7, accusing it of fraud and racketeering for allegedly fleecing investors worldwide with a Ponzi-like scheme.

RELATED: DETROIT: Anti-Islam attorney sues group over fraud, racketeering allegations

Metro Property Group claimed that it had not been served with the suit for three months after it was filed, and that none of the claimed 71 exhibits were attached.

The counterclaim also said the plaintiffs’ attorney, Southfield-based Debbie Schlussel, has a strong bias against Muslims. Metro Property Group’s principals are Muslim. It said Schlussel accused a former Metro Property Group attorney, Tarek Baydoun, of being “a Muslim activist for Islamic terrorist groups.”

Schlussel has used the term “Dearbornistan” in her media commentaries.

Baydoun, a Dearborn City Council candidate, said in May that he firmly denied any wrongdoing and that Schlussel’s allegations are “scandalous and fraudulent.” He also said that he stepped down as Metro Property’s attorney in October 2012 and didn’t expect to be a party in the litigation.

Also named in the suit are Metro Property officials Sameer Beydoun (the CEO), Ali Beydoun, David Makki and Mike Alaweih.

The suit accused them of marketing houses in Detroit to investors all over the world as money-making investment, and they allegedly presented fake documents, including leases with forged signatures. The houses were sold for $40,000 to $50,000 when, according to the suit, they were virtually worthless, in complete disrepair, uninhabitable and without tenants.

The suit cites 11 houses in Detroit, and the plaintiffs are asking for $6.4 million in damages per house and for their original investments to be repaid.

Metro Property Group said in the counterclaim that it “performs a significant amount of due diligence with respect to houses for sale” and only buys in “specific, strong-performing neighborhoods” in Detroit. It also claims to be the No. 1 purchaser of single-family houses in the city. Many of the houses are in tax foreclosure, and most are purchased at auctions.

The company said it spends $10,000 to $20,000 to refurbish each house, and each gets a 238-point inspection before it’s sold. The buyer has the option of using Metro Property Group to manage the house if it’s intended to be a rental. It manages more than 1,000 properties.

Metro Property Group spent about $5 million on rehabilitation work on more than 800 houses in 2012, and it sold more than 600 to more than 200 investors for more than $30 million, according to the counterclaim.

The Llewellyn-Joneses bought three houses from Metro Property Group through USA Property Direct, a brokerage firm in the United Kingdom. Four of the lawsuit’s six other plaintiffs bought houses through the same firm, with Kathryn Llewellyn-Jones making commissions as a sales agent.

The houses were purchased in 2011, before the 238-point inspection program was started, and the counterclaim said she started complaining in 2012 about some properties and made “increasingly inappropriate demands.” Metro Property Group was terminated as the property manager in July 2012.

The two sides began negotiating and agreed that Metro Property Group would buy back the houses, but the Llewellyn-Joneses hired a law firm and the deal fell through. They then hired Schlussel, who filed the lawsuit.

Of the eight plaintiffs, five are from the United Kingdom, two are from Australia and one is from Yemen.

author by M&K Llewellyn-Jonespublication date Mon Nov 25, 2013 14:40Report this post to the editors

We have clearly stated that we will not enter into any discussion with a person who hides behind anonymity. Any post on here from us will clearly state so and we have nothing to do with any others.

Finn/ Unanswered is invited once again to reveal who they really are, if they are the mouthpiece for Brendan Investments and if they are prepared to stand by their repeated accusations that some or all of the plaintiffs in the lawsuit filed against Metro Property Group are guilty of extortion, blackmail, bankruptcy, religious and racial hatred.

Finn is adding new accusations claiming that we are sales agents who have profited from selling Metro's Property Group slums at a markup.

Finn also appears to be both a coward and an incredible fool, simply repeating the crap that Metro has fed him…crap which even their own attorney in a recent hearing conceded was not true.

author by Unansweredpublication date Mon Nov 25, 2013 14:52Report this post to the editors

That's just plain silly. You've been posting continuously and facelessly, making allegations that simply make no sense and tellingly, this is the sixth or seventh time you fail to answer these simple questions, why?
(a) There is no fraud charge, its a civil suit, why call it such? (b) Why no police investigation, (c) Where are the hundreds in the alleged 'giant ponzi scheme - its been six months and you are the only one's posting on-line.

It's ironic, you pluck liberally out of a document prepared by someone regarded as the USA's biggest bigot by the Council for American Islamic Relations but when a newspaper report on the counter claim is reproduced you lose the plot. Small wonder. You are claiming $6.4 each on three houses worth, what about 0.5%.

author by M&K Llewellyn-Jonespublication date Mon Nov 25, 2013 14:57Report this post to the editors

Come back when you have the guts to reveal yourself and stand by the allegations you are making…as we have done openly.

author by fredpublication date Mon Nov 25, 2013 15:52Report this post to the editors

yeah, who are you unanswered? If you have nothing to hide then tell us.

author by Unansweredpublication date Mon Nov 25, 2013 17:20Report this post to the editors

Instead of proceeding with the suit, you've been (a) engaged in a faceless 6 month on-line campaign of vilification, some of it based on 'rumour' which you admit and (b) evading glaring holes in your efforts. You finally come on record after being challenged and when the counter suit reveals you as claiming compensation 50 times more than your three units through a part time attorney, movie critic and xenophobic blogger regarded by the Council for American Islamic Relations as the USA's most bigoted person - an accolade, no doubt she has both earned and bears as a badge of honour.

You get vexed when this is pointed out and still continue to avoid answering these simple questions, presumably because they expose your efforts as, at best, hugely exaggerated and at worst as a plain old fashioned shake down ? Here are the questions again;

(a) There is no fraud charge, its a civil suit, why call it such? (b) Why no police investigation, (c) Where are the hundreds in the alleged 'giant ponzi scheme - its been six months and you are the only one's posting on-line.

author by Debbie Sayspublication date Mon Nov 25, 2013 17:50Report this post to the editors

Here is the attorney on the day the news broke of huge loss of human life in Norway;

It’s trite but true: a picture’s worth a thousand words. And the Norwegian newspaper pictures from the “political youth camp” at Utoya Island, Norway–the day before terrorist Anders Behring Breivik attacked it–say it all. The boycott sign is obvious, and the other pic is a game, re-enacting of the HAMAS flotilla in which terrorists tried to murder Israeli soldiers (complete with Palestinian flags and Norwegian kids’ smiles). These kids who were killed by a terrorist . . . well, they sided with Islamic terrorists. Look at the photos brought to our attention by Zalmi’s Weblog, and they appeared on Norwegian news site Politisk, right before the attacks. Read all the insightful details provided by the astute Zalmi, who notes that the man in the pic happily encountering the boycott sign is Norway’s Foreign Minister Gahre-Store, who went on to praise Palestinian terrorists and condemn Israel.

“Victims” or Perpetrators?: Norwegian HAMASniks Join Norway Foreign Minister @ Utoya Island Camp

Funny how Glenn Beck has come under attack for comparing the camp to a Hitler Youth camp. Based on these pics, seems like he’s spot on, though he should have added, HAMAS Youth camp, too. As we all know, Nazis boycotted Jews and were Jew-killers. And these hateful, privileged brats at the camp boycotted Jews and sided with Jew-killers. I don’t condone violent massacres on innocent civilians, and I condemn what Breivik did. He is a terrorist just like the 9/11 hijackers, Hezbollah, HAMAS, and Nidal Malik Hasan. But what goes around comes around. You support terrorists against innocent civilians in Israel, then you get attacked by terrorists who are upset with your support.

author by M&K Llewellyn-Jonespublication date Mon Nov 25, 2013 18:05Report this post to the editors

It is astonishing that the Coward Finn seriously believes that he or she has the right to demand answers when he or she is too s*** scared to reveal their identity. Should this individual gather the courage to reveal themselves we will be more than happy to answer any questions and provide any documentary proof requested. We have nothing to hide. We would also welcome the chance to discuss the many allegations Finn has levelled at us which include blackmail, extortion and bankruptcy.

As Finn does not seem to be the sharpest knife in the drawer we will try and explain, in very simple terms, that Fraud is also a civil tort therefore, in the civil case brought against Metro the charge is "Fraud" as well as - breach of oral and implied contract, unjust enrichment, misrepresentation, conversion—both common law and statutory, racketeering and other causes of action committed by Metro and their employees, agents, and representatives. We appreciate this is a lot of words to try and understand. The case has been filed in a Federal Court and a jury trial has been demanded.

The Serious Fraud Office in the UK are investigating Metro Property Group as are official agencies in the US.

Perhaps Finn would now like to tell us if he or she is a mouthpiece for Brendan Investments or Metro Property Group or both.

We hope this will put an end to Finn's repetitive and anonymous postings.

author by Unansweredpublication date Mon Nov 25, 2013 19:50Report this post to the editors

You continue to make unsupported allegations and avoid questions;

1. Why engage a part time attorney, a person so xenophobic that her blogging has come to national attention for remarkable bigotry. See above for her reaction to the massacre in Norway and explain why anyone should give credence to a court document constructed by her attacking a firm headed by Muslims based, as she calls it in Dearbornistan?

2. Where is there any evidence of police investigation. The alleged events took place in 2011?

3. Where are the 'hundreds' of others. In six months this huge edifice scam as you allege amounts to 8 units and for your three you are claiming $6.4m a piece, trying to make over 50 times back on your money.

4. The court filing countering your claim states that you were selling property on behalf of UK firm USA direct, is this true?

5. Why do you continue to campaign on line instead of letting due process run its course, why engage in this behaviour?

author by Alexander Macombpublication date Tue Nov 26, 2013 06:39Report this post to the editors

Extraordinary reading this material. Anders Breveik slaughtered 77 Norwegians, 69 of them children in cold blood in July 2011 when you were investing in Detroit property for profit. You chose a lawyer who described their holiday camp as a Nazi boot camp and that these kids got what they deserved.

No matter what else you have to say about the merits of your case how can you expect sympathy or credibility?

That you passed your file to Schlussel knowing her record really doesn't leave you with a leg to stand on.

author by Sir Walter Raleighpublication date Tue Nov 26, 2013 09:03Report this post to the editors

Why is Schlussel targeting Brendan Investments though? Are the directors Muslims? Or are the directors of Woodward Capital, the company BI and Metro Property partnered in, Muslims?

author by Unansweredpublication date Tue Nov 26, 2013 09:30Report this post to the editors

Schlussel targeted One Direction boy band member Malik as a jihadist, she called for one billion Muslims to follow Bin Laden into the grave , she described the Nowegian teens murdered by Breveik as partaking in a Nazi boot camp.

The same person was chosen and hired by you. How can anything she writes be separated from fiction? The filing you approved describes the Metro directors as fund raising for terrorists, with homes in Lebanon!

Everything she claims in the filing is deeply suspect including the reference, you admit is based on rumour to an uninvolved Irish firm. What is extraordinary is that (a) you chose a part time attorney whose reputation is deeply flawed, (b) you've taken extrapolation from the same filing on to US websites and now across the Atlantic to the Emerald Isle, without success for six months as no one else has come forward to support your allegations and (c) there is no police investigation -why? Finally you claim $6.4 million each for three units worth less than 50 times that amount.

When it's poined out that the filing appears vexatious, spurious and grossly over the top and that engaged before due process on line, smacks of a shake down, you get vexed.

author by What a coincidencepublication date Tue Nov 26, 2013 09:35Report this post to the editors

…but it looks like Metro Property Group and Brendan Investments are as snug as bugs in a rug.

http://cdn.mymetroproperty.com/sites/mymetroproperty.co...x.pdf

http://bipropertymanagement.ie

author by Unansweredpublication date Tue Nov 26, 2013 10:47Report this post to the editors

You continue to avoid answering simple observations like (a) There is no fraud charge, its a civil suit, (b) Why no police investigation, (c) Where are the hundreds in the alleged 'giant ponzi scheme - its been six months and you are the only one's posting on-line. You have filed a civil suit through a xenophobic part time solicitor destroying any credence in anything you have to say here, surely?

Here is another media report on a counter-filing. It states that the plaintiffs were in fact acting as property selling agents commissioned by UK-based firm USA Direct, a matter missing from the filing. So you are property professionals then? How much money did you make selling on these units with massive mark ups? Are either of you a bankrupt?

You complain about the questions being posed but when you read both filings, these questions as above are valid and the question about whether it is a shake down is also valid. You bought three units and you're suing for $6,400,000 per house!

By Joe Slezak
Press & Guide Newspapers

DETROIT — A Dearborn-based company that buys foreclosed houses in Detroit has filed a counterclaim against a group suing it.

Metro Property Group LLC filed the counterclaim July 30 in U.S. District Court, asking a judge to order plaintiffs Kathryn and Mark Llewellyn-Jones to stop trying to interfere with the company’s business relationships and stop making claims that the houses its buys and rehabilitates are “virtually worthless on the open market.”

The Llewellyn-Joneses are United Kingdom citizens and United Arab Emirates residents. They are among eight people who filed a federal lawsuit against Metro Property Group on May 7, accusing it of fraud and racketeering for allegedly fleecing investors worldwide with a Ponzi-like scheme.

RELATED: DETROIT: Anti-Islam attorney sues group over fraud, racketeering allegations

Metro Property Group claimed that it had not been served with the suit for three months after it was filed, and that none of the claimed 71 exhibits were attached.

The counterclaim also said the plaintiffs’ attorney, Southfield-based Debbie Schlussel, has a strong bias against Muslims. Metro Property Group’s principals are Muslim. It said Schlussel accused a former Metro Property Group attorney, Tarek Baydoun, of being “a Muslim activist for Islamic terrorist groups.”

Schlussel has used the term “Dearbornistan” in her media commentaries.

Baydoun, a Dearborn City Council candidate, said in May that he firmly denied any wrongdoing and that Schlussel’s allegations are “scandalous and fraudulent.” He also said that he stepped down as Metro Property’s attorney in October 2012 and didn’t expect to be a party in the litigation.

Also named in the suit are Metro Property officials Sameer Beydoun (the CEO), Ali Beydoun, David Makki and Mike Alaweih.

The suit accused them of marketing houses in Detroit to investors all over the world as money-making investment, and they allegedly presented fake documents, including leases with forged signatures. The houses were sold for $40,000 to $50,000 when, according to the suit, they were virtually worthless, in complete disrepair, uninhabitable and without tenants.

The suit cites 11 houses in Detroit, and the plaintiffs are asking for $6.4 million in damages per house and for their original investments to be repaid.

Metro Property Group said in the counterclaim that it “performs a significant amount of due diligence with respect to houses for sale” and only buys in “specific, strong-performing neighborhoods” in Detroit. It also claims to be the No. 1 purchaser of single-family houses in the city. Many of the houses are in tax foreclosure, and most are purchased at auctions.

The company said it spends $10,000 to $20,000 to refurbish each house, and each gets a 238-point inspection before it’s sold. The buyer has the option of using Metro Property Group to manage the house if it’s intended to be a rental. It manages more than 1,000 properties.

Metro Property Group spent about $5 million on rehabilitation work on more than 800 houses in 2012, and it sold more than 600 to more than 200 investors for more than $30 million, according to the counterclaim.

The Llewellyn-Joneses bought three houses from Metro Property Group through USA Property Direct, a brokerage firm in the United Kingdom. Four of the lawsuit’s six other plaintiffs bought houses through the same firm, with Kathryn Llewellyn-Jones making commissions as a sales agent.

The houses were purchased in 2011, before the 238-point inspection program was started, and the counterclaim said she started complaining in 2012 about some properties and made “increasingly inappropriate demands.” Metro Property Group was terminated as the property manager in July 2012.

The two sides began negotiating and agreed that Metro Property Group would buy back the houses, but the Llewellyn-Joneses hired a law firm and the deal fell through. They then hired Schlussel, who filed the lawsuit.

Of the eight plaintiffs, five are from the United Kingdom, two are from Australia and one is from Yemen.

author by Boring Nowpublication date Tue Nov 26, 2013 10:56Report this post to the editors

Folks, its getting boring now. Summary ; The UAE UK ex-Pat hired a part-time lawyer and well known crazy to do the work, that does cast a long shadow over everything in it but the plaintiff is persistent although prickly but going for over six million bucks for a low price housing disaster does seem extreme. We'll just have to wait until the trial, if there is any. Boring now.

author by Nozi Parkerpublication date Wed Jan 15, 2014 09:09Report this post to the editors

One of Metro Property Group's largest clients has gone on to a site in the UK saying that he has now found out how Metro really operate and is looking to take legal action against them. Much bigger Metro Property clients are the Lottery winning McNamaras with their 130 Detroit properties…..who persuaded them to get stitched up like that????? It is a mystery as deep as an Artesian Well.

Finn should check out 10816 Worden, maybe have a little chat with the previous owner who was paid off by Metro when he discovered his lease was forged, as was the Section 8 certificate, and the rent he had been getting was just his own money being paid back to him. He threatened to expose them but Tarek Baydoun and James Allen 'sorted it out' and now 10816 Worden has a proud new owner….. doesn't it Finn?

author by 10816 Wordenpublication date Mon Jan 20, 2014 09:59Report this post to the editors

He's wondering where all the tenants have gone and how he ever got conned into this and how he's going to explain it all away, and then there's those shite apartment blocks that need selling lol!

10816 Worden!!! You have to be kidding. That piece of crud was being touted by Axis (who have now closed down). Metro were forced to settle up with the original owner of it because he was going to the police. Metro made sure they weren't out of pocket though….there's always another mug waiting in the wings……isn't there Finn?

Are you there Finn?

Finn?

Oh bother he's gone.

author by Watcherpublication date Sat Jan 25, 2014 11:37Report this post to the editors

Reading the stream there isnt much of a gap really. One claims wrong doing and the other says show the evidence in a court judgement or even a formal police investigation. Its understandable not to give weight to website posting.

author by My Friendpublication date Sat Jan 25, 2014 17:48Report this post to the editors

Is not blowing in the wind......it's at the bottom of an Artesian Well...isn't it Finn?

10816 Worden!!! LOL

author by Eviction Defensepublication date Tue Feb 18, 2014 14:25Report this post to the editors

Urealdene Henderson wins home back after Metro Property threatened, demanded huge payment
picketers in front of news camera
40 supporters picketed Metro Property Management leasing office March 9, 2013
Ms. Henderson has lived in her Detroit home for 36 years. She worked at Great Lakes Steel as a member of the Steelworkers union for 34 years, but after being diagnosed with cancer she was off work for three years. She returned to work in 2009, only to be laid off, and got behind on her property taxes. She now is retired on disability.

Ms. Henderson had a deal with the Wayne County Treasurer to pay $2,100 to prevent tax foreclosure. Through no fault of her own, her payment arrived three days late -- and the Treasurer had already sold her home to Metro Property Management for $7,000.

Ms. Henderson contacted Metro right away, and offered $10,000 to buy back her home. But Metro demanded $52,000 -- more than five times what houses in the area sell for. Metro later said they wouldn’t sell, and would only rent her the home for $1,000 a month.

Metro put notices on Ms. Henderson’s door to try to frighten her into moving. One said: “This property is illegally occupied by a SQUATTER” and threatened her with arrest. In a court hearing on March 11, the judge told the company lawyer such threats are wrong. They are now talking with Ms. Henderson .

author by A happy Plaintiff.publication date Tue Apr 08, 2014 09:54Report this post to the editors

Well done old girl.

Metro have been denied their motion to try and stop KL-J from talking about them and their scam. The Judge said the plaintiffs were entitled to talk about what Metro did to them and the damage to current and potential investors far outweighed any damage Metro might suffer.

Glad someone has the guts to stand up to these bullying con artists and the likes of the anonymous Finn.

http://dockets.justia.com/docket/michigan/miedce/2:2013...80628

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