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Indymedia Statement Concerning the Former Editor Pat C

category national | indymedia ireland | press release author Saturday November 16, 2013 23:57author by IMC Collective Report this post to the editors

Indymedia Collective statement over the recent revelations concerning former editor Pat C

On Thursday evening it was reported through one of the comments on this site that former editor Pat Corcoran had been convicted of possession of child porn images. When we became aware of this information, former Indymedia moderator Pat Corcoran was immediately asked via email for his resignation from this collective and he duly resigned from the IMC collective. Clearly this is not something that this organisation or any other tolerates and we unreservedly condemn it.

A number of questions have been raised concerning how he joined Indymedia and moderation. Pat C joined Indymedia in Feb 2009 through the procedure outlined in this link http://www.indymedia.ie/HowToJoin whereby he showed an interest in the work of Indymedia, was proposed by another editor and was voted in. Prior to this his involvement was to subscribe to the Indymedia email list which anyone can join and he regularly used the reported post facility people can use to report or query stories or comments. There was a comment suggesting that somehow the collective should have been or may have been aware of his behaviour at this time. This is simply not the case and it would be utterly ridiculous to think that anyone would even consider someone as a member if there was even a hint of such behaviour.

Regarding the moderation by Pat C. The moderation is carried out by whomever is logged in and then when there is a conflict of opinion, the idea is that it should be discussed on the email editorial lists. All moderators are supposed to have equal authority as it is not a hierarchical organisation. In an ideal world all the other moderators would have read all the relevant comments and the context of the thread and would then have to debate the issue. The reality is that all moderators have always been volunteers doing this in their spare time and very often would only catch up much later and certainly when the site had more traffic, it was physically impossible to wade through the emails and argue the case. Thus it is the case that the result was very often less than ideal. The editorial guidelines were and are supposed to be part of the toolkit to make this process easier and it does work to a degree, but like the laws of the state, the more rules you introduce the more complex can be the interpretation used for both sides of an argument. There is sometimes a perception that democracy is easy. It is not in practice and it takes a lot of time, effort, patience and endurance and we have yet to see it functioning properly anywhere. And in some instances Pat C clearly got his way. In hindsight more effort should have been made to reign him.

IMC Collective

 #   Title   Author   Date 
   People need to express their feelings on this site without being called ramblers     Patrick Falvey    Sat Nov 16, 2013 20:21 
   Deeply concerned re. Indymedia needs to make statement     Wendy S Elliott    Sat Nov 16, 2013 20:47 
   UK and European blogs waste no time in naming and shaming Patrick Corcoran     Parents Watchdog    Sun Nov 17, 2013 00:26 
   Serious questions must be answered here urgently     Liam Quinn    Sun Nov 17, 2013 00:57 
   Liam Quinn     Chris    Sun Nov 17, 2013 01:34 
   Comments moved to this thread     IMC editor    Sun Nov 17, 2013 01:49 
   deliberate inaccuracy     Joe M    Sun Nov 17, 2013 13:22 
   Judge Martin     Joe Mc    Sun Nov 17, 2013 13:50 
   Political Links?     OhDearyMe    Sun Nov 17, 2013 14:39 
 10   Apportioning blame     OhDearyMe    Sun Nov 17, 2013 15:07 
 11   The Collective's disdain for the User-base is obvious     OhDearyMe    Sun Nov 17, 2013 15:31 
 12   Comments moved to this thread but what about hidden?     Concerned    Sun Nov 17, 2013 15:48 
 13   Re: deliberate inaccuracy     IMC Collective    Sun Nov 17, 2013 16:27 
 14   Tom Eile user name .     Joe Mc    Sun Nov 17, 2013 16:36 
 15   ok joe     OhDearyMe    Sun Nov 17, 2013 17:20 
 16   Many questions but too much of a defence by Indymedia moderators     Adrian O'Connell    Sun Nov 17, 2013 17:23 
 17   Collective hypocrisy     OhDearyMe    Sun Nov 17, 2013 17:34 
 18   The left...     Damien M    Sun Nov 17, 2013 22:03 
 19   "Damien"     OhDearyMe    Sun Nov 17, 2013 22:24 
 20   See link for website re child sexual abusers UK and Ireland     Noel Thornton    Sun Nov 17, 2013 22:53 
 21   Sockpuppet alert     OhDearyMe    Sun Nov 17, 2013 23:32 
 22   one fair moderator     Keith Harris    Mon Nov 18, 2013 00:23 
 23   Misplaced priorities     Jerry    Mon Nov 18, 2013 12:23 
 24   @oh deary me     Joe mc    Mon Nov 18, 2013 12:42 
 25   re moderators wageslave and Terence     Joe Mc    Mon Nov 18, 2013 13:00 
 26   Joe     Chris    Mon Nov 18, 2013 13:24 
 27   Animal Rights involvement     Jerry    Mon Nov 18, 2013 13:44 
 28   @Joe     OhDearyMe    Mon Nov 18, 2013 13:50 
 29   chalk and cheese     JoeMc    Mon Nov 18, 2013 14:38 
 30   All need to resign!     Cat P    Mon Nov 18, 2013 15:06 
 31   oh FFS     OhDearyMe    Mon Nov 18, 2013 15:19 
 32   here we go     OhDearyMe    Mon Nov 18, 2013 15:21 
 33   @Joe     OhDearyMe    Mon Nov 18, 2013 15:24 
 34   TWO resignations?     OhDearyMe    Mon Nov 18, 2013 15:26 
 35   the sockpuppet's back     OhDearyMe    Mon Nov 18, 2013 15:41 
 36   Surrounded by like minded people     Jerry    Mon Nov 18, 2013 15:49 
 37   Moronic hysterics     OhDearyMe    Mon Nov 18, 2013 16:02 
 38   yes, very happy now     Joe Mc    Mon Nov 18, 2013 16:47 
 39   It Ain't Necessarily So, Joe!     OhDearyMe    Mon Nov 18, 2013 17:08 
 40   who knew what when     pseudonym    Mon Nov 18, 2013 22:37 
 41   No transparency here     Equaliser and observer    Tue Nov 19, 2013 11:16 
 42   Pup-socketry     OhDearyMe    Tue Nov 19, 2013 12:39 
 43   Mark Grehan     JoeMc    Tue Nov 19, 2013 13:26 
 44   some responses to points raised etc     wageslave    Tue Nov 19, 2013 13:35 
 45   Re: the baseless allegations that BAE runs this site     wageslave    Tue Nov 19, 2013 15:19 
 46   Baseless accussations     Mark G    Tue Nov 19, 2013 16:21 
 47   Do onto others as you would have done onto you     Hugh Murphy    Tue Nov 19, 2013 16:39 
 48   re: your comment Hugh     wageslave    Tue Nov 19, 2013 17:23 
 49   Pat Corcoran - child porn     john Murphy    Tue Nov 19, 2013 17:42 
 50   @john murphy / observer     mary murphy    Tue Nov 19, 2013 18:05 
 51   Seeing the wood from the trees     Contrarian    Tue Nov 19, 2013 19:42 
 52   thank you for your constructive post contrarian     wageslave    Tue Nov 19, 2013 20:18 
 53   Thanks, wageslave     Contrarian    Tue Nov 19, 2013 23:18 
 54   Why can't editors say that Corcoran was a rat ?     JoeMc    Wed Nov 20, 2013 11:33 
 55   Make sure they never do it again.     Hugh Murphy    Wed Nov 20, 2013 11:39 
 56   Apology, not statements Please     Ann Unmanageable    Wed Nov 20, 2013 18:36 
 57   some more responses...     wageslave    Wed Nov 20, 2013 21:44 
 58   hope     Hugh Murphy    Thu Nov 21, 2013 11:15 
 59   learning from a shattering episode     Periodic visitor    Thu Nov 21, 2013 11:39 
 60   Wageslave and Patrick Corcoran     JoeMcivor    Thu Nov 21, 2013 13:02 
 61   mods     Joe Mc    Thu Nov 21, 2013 13:31 
 62   Sigh.....here we go     wageslave    Thu Nov 21, 2013 15:29 
 63   Re: showing comments     wageslave    Thu Nov 21, 2013 15:50 
 64   Suffer little children     Hugh Murphy    Thu Nov 21, 2013 17:53 
 65   why isn't this on the front page ?     Joe Mc    Thu Nov 21, 2013 18:09 
 66   Never thought I'd feel sorry for the mods, but.......     Contrarian    Thu Nov 21, 2013 18:09 
 67   OTT     JoeMc    Thu Nov 21, 2013 19:14 
 68   Allegations against Hopi     Anne McShane    Thu Nov 21, 2013 19:35 
 69   Small point, Joe, but anyway...     Contrarian    Thu Nov 21, 2013 19:37 
 70   @Joe / contrarian / Hugh     wageslave    Fri Nov 22, 2013 09:43 
 71   @Wageslave     JoeMc    Fri Nov 22, 2013 10:20 
 72   Defamation     Anne McShane    Fri Nov 22, 2013 10:36 
 73   There are none so blind as those who will not see.     Hugh Murphy    Fri Nov 22, 2013 10:54 
 74   Possible reason for delay in arrest and prosecution     RobbieS    Fri Nov 22, 2013 10:57 
 75   time for the reset button?     wageslave    Fri Nov 22, 2013 10:59 
 76   @ Anne MacShane     JoeMc    Fri Nov 22, 2013 11:31 
 77   Aguisín Eile     RobbieS    Fri Nov 22, 2013 11:32 
 78   A suitable case for an Ombudsman ?     JoeMc    Fri Nov 22, 2013 12:21 
 79   @Hugh     wageslave    Fri Nov 22, 2013 12:48 
 80   Questions which could post a challenge to Joe McIvor's Unsubstantiated Musings (which aren't even at theory level).     RobbieS    Fri Nov 22, 2013 13:53 
 81   P Corcorans activities on Indymedia     OhDearyMe    Fri Nov 22, 2013 14:01 
 82   Another method of Corcorans     OhDearyMe    Fri Nov 22, 2013 14:13 
 83   Restitution     OhDearyMe    Fri Nov 22, 2013 14:21 
 84   BTW     OhDearyMe    Fri Nov 22, 2013 14:36 
 85   collective effort now needed     Joe Mc    Fri Nov 22, 2013 16:42 
 86   Preferences in terms of being censored on the "libertarian left"     Ciaron    Fri Nov 22, 2013 16:56 
 87   sectarianism     JoeMc    Fri Nov 22, 2013 19:33 
 88   idir an dá linn     RobbieS    Fri Nov 22, 2013 22:16 
 89   Was "Opus Diablos" a sockpuppet of Pat Corcorans?     OhDearyMe    Sat Nov 23, 2013 00:17 
 90   more responses.....     wageslave    Sat Nov 23, 2013 14:53 
 91   for the record...     wageslave    Sat Nov 23, 2013 15:06 
 92   Apology accepted quite a while ago and a few random thoughts, See ya in Dub wit the Mannings later this week     Ciaron    Sun Nov 24, 2013 07:10 
 93   @Ciaron     wageslave    Sun Nov 24, 2013 10:34 
 94   The Good Friday Thread     RobbieS    Sun Nov 24, 2013 14:57 
 95   agreed Rob     wageslave    Sun Nov 24, 2013 15:37 
 96   The rest of my comment     RobbieS    Sun Nov 24, 2013 16:29 
 97   Thoughts on decline of Indymedia     Terence (personal capacity)    Sun Nov 24, 2013 23:07 
 98   @Terence     Robbies    Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:53 
 99   ups and downs     Periodic visitor    Sat Nov 30, 2013 01:14 
 100   Wow     Bobby    Tue Dec 03, 2013 11:19 
 101   seomra     JoeMc    Thu Dec 05, 2013 10:50 
 102   Joe Mc     Bobby    Sat Dec 07, 2013 13:35 
 103   Seomra Spraoi and Patrick Corcoran     Joe Mc    Sun Dec 08, 2013 16:09 
 104   I still think you're disgusting and don't care about the actual victims, just your little game     Bobby    Tue Dec 10, 2013 16:40 
 105   Pat and Seomra     Bobby    Tue Dec 10, 2013 16:47 
 106   not true     JoeMc    Tue Dec 10, 2013 20:23 
 107   You've got every right to be concerned.     JoeMc    Wed Dec 11, 2013 15:22 
 108   Gone but always remembered     Hugh Murphy    Wed Dec 11, 2013 17:31 
 109   pattern     JoeMc    Wed Dec 11, 2013 20:37 
 110   confused     wageslave    Wed Dec 11, 2013 21:02 
 111   the big cover up.....     wageslave    Wed Dec 11, 2013 21:40 
 112   evidence ?     JoeMc    Thu Dec 12, 2013 10:37 
 113   The Thought Police can't see beyond their own meglomania     Hugh Murphy    Thu Dec 12, 2013 11:01 
 114   indeed     JoeMc    Thu Dec 12, 2013 11:22 
 115   yeah right!     wageslave    Thu Dec 12, 2013 12:59 
 116   @Joe     wageslave    Thu Dec 12, 2013 13:09 


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