Fresh talks may take place in bid to resolve Corrib dispute

by supp Mon Nov 06, 2006 13:19

http://royaldutchshellplc.com/2006/11/06/irish-times-pr...lock/

by shell to sea Mon Nov 06, 2006 17:20

Dempsey rejects group's Corrib proposals

http://www.rte.ie/news/2006/1106/mayo.html

by Vinny Tue Nov 07, 2006 13:52

Proposal? Dont proposals normally have a proposal in them?

Come on the Irish population were not goin to swallow "Optimum Developement Concept"

So why should the Gov?

by small bruv Wed Nov 08, 2006 15:09

Funny how S2S want to talk now construction work has started and they have lost any leverage . They did't seem to want to talk when they thought they had the upper hand

S2S don’t even want to be realistic.

Reading their press statement it seems Shell should stop work while independent commission decides how and where a gas processing facility should be located.

Highly qualified and experienced planners, pipeline/ processing design engineers, structural engineers, geotechnical specialists and countless other have thrown their expertise into the mix and all agree its safe.

Are we to believe a bunch of teachers, farmers, sociologists, fishermen and blacksmiths know better?

by Tadhg Wed Nov 08, 2006 15:52

A bunch of teachers, farmers, some school children,blacksmiths, some more farmers, some fishermen, some people who work in the tourist industry, bar staff, drivers, artists, some retired people, etc etc. That is what a community is.

And yes, you do understand. Shell to Sea think that community consent should be central to bringing the gas into the network, so that means consulting all the above.

If that's unrealistic, then we're unrealistic.

We also think the people who live in Ireland should benefit from the natural resources of the country. Crazy huh?

by Robert Wed Nov 08, 2006 18:34

Tadhg

We also think the people who live in Ireland should benefit from the natural resources of the country. Crazy huh?

No... Not Crazy ,
However its a bit late in the day to start shouting about the terms and conditions that shell and other oil companies recieved.
Maybe its time change direction, The general public last year were in support of the R5 and shell to sea, That has changed as past year not only because National Media and the shell PR machine but the unwillingness of STS to sit down and try and work out some form of compromise. Events as since last year have shown STS in unfavourable light , Like it or not the high ground that you once held has now been lost , thats why the campaign in rossport should be stood down.

by Tadhg Wed Nov 08, 2006 23:52

Robert,

We seem to be enjoying popular support. The media are hostile in the main, but less hostile than they were a few weeks ago. The campaign is stronger now than it was this time last year (and last year we were the "phenomenon of 2005" according to RTE radio).

We have been complaining about the terms of the deal since the beginning. Every time we were told that the Corrib scheme was "in the national interest". In 1992 Dick Spring called the deal "economic treason". Dick Spring now, not Hugo Chavez.

The three strands of our campaign have always been :
Health and Safety,

Economics (you know in Kazakhstan they get a better deal on their natural resources? Everyone pays just a dollar per month for gas. That's right -Kazakhstan.)

and Community Consent.

We have been doing better at getting all of these across to the wider public, and it looks like Shell to Sea will be a major issue at the election, which means Fianna Fáil candidates will suffer at the polls because of it, which must concentrate their minds wonderfully.

Meanwhile we have asked for an independent arbiter to make a decision on the optimum way of bringing the gas to the market, with community consent at the heart of the solution.

Nothing ruled in, nothing ruled out, but Shell and Dempsey are refusing to negotiate. Remember, they claim they already have community consent, so what's their problem? It's looking harder and harder for them to explain their position as anything but greed and arrogance.

So, tell me again, why should we stand down?

by Robert - @ Thu Nov 09, 2006 15:02

Hi Tadhg,

The government ,shell , gereral public and possibly some menbers of the campaign know that the ballinaboy protest is dead in the water, it s now time to get all our ducks in a line.
Consoladate the campaigns position , try to recapture some of the high ground which was held last year, and explore new stratigies which will raise the profile of the campaign nationally and internationally.The blockading of fuel stations certainaly highlights the issue to the public , however it also can very easly turn the public against the campaign due to the nusiance factor assiocaited with the onging protests. As regards to the ballinabaoy what is it achiving , blocking men going to do a days work ( thats how the gen public see it ) and using up garda resourses , time to sit back and review the future of the protest.

by supp Fri Nov 10, 2006 21:07

Gas row rumbles on as plea for commission on enquiry is rejected
by Fiona McGarry
http://www.mayoadvertiser.com/index.php?aid=291