Gender Equality & Progressive European Democracy

by hmmm Sat Jun 03, 2006 18:02

I wonder what letter the poor teenage defendent boy or girl in the future who brings us all back to the apalling vista will get?
Will he or she be an "X"?
Maybe next time - they'll examine the legislation without nationwide panic & have a vote of conscience & maybe even use the word "cunnilingus"....
mark my words - its not over - just a resprung trap.

by chris murray - the unmanageables Sat Jun 03, 2006 12:39

The Bill(fully titled elsewhere) has been transposed into Irish law.
Joe HigginsTD was the only public representative who rejected it.
He received no support from any member of the 'opposition'.
The fantastic moral compass which guided green, labour, fine gael to
fear for their vote share and not question the human rights aspects
of the legislation indicates a complete lack of balls in the Dail,
maybe they were afraid of the protestors outside. who were hardly threatening
to break down the doors(being well barricaded and singing omniously).

Given that our male/female ratio in the Dail is akin to representation in
sub-sahara , it is hardly surprising that real women were barricaded
away from the house of Eunuchs. Not one woman TD spoke on the issue
and assuming they did, they wd also toe the party line.

by Chris Murray - The Unmanageables Fri Jun 02, 2006 21:48

From 'The Cat's Eye'. (The Story of the Eye).

Simone is sixteen:

"She had black silk stockings on, covering her knees, but I was unable to
see her as far up as the cunt, (This name , which I always used with Simone, is, I think,
by far the lovliest name for the vagina). It merely struck me that by slightly lifting
the pinafore from behind, I might see her private parts unveiled".

The narrator is sixteen.

If you prefer the world of Celia Ahern and her Rainbows, please let me
know, becuse the effect of today's law is the creation of a two tier
system of sexual morality which will advance the issues of abuse and
trafficking. I believe that new by-laws listed for the councils will
state that sex shops have to be away from residential areas. The Pd's drive the
morality of the government. Speaking as a woman, this law is bad law.
I could not find any good male porn in my library, or gay for that matter.
The 'Swimming Pool Library' doesn't quite make the grade.
Mr Mc Dowell knows well that this law mitigates against young women
as well as young men, his liberatarianism extends only to the
commodification of the individual and not to expressive freedom.

If however, you don't have the stomach for auto-eroticism and the
evisceration of a catholic priest on the Altar, then I suggest a cuppa and
a copy of one from Ms Aherne's opus.

by historian Fri Jun 02, 2006 20:01

That only 3 times before in the history of the Irish state has the word fellatio been recorded by the stenographers of the Irish Legislature. All previous uses of the word were heard in the Senate, but not the Dail.
1990
http://historical-debates.oireachtas.ie/S/0127/S.0127.199012120010.html
1993
http://historical-debates.oireachtas.ie/S/0137/S.0137.199306290005.html
1981
http://historical-debates.oireachtas.ie/S/0095/S.0095.198104010003.html

the word itself dates from 1887, from the latin. "fellatus", which is the past participle of fellare "to suck". The sexual partner performing fellatio is a fellator; if female, a fellatrice or fellatrix.

The first appearance of the word in official Irish government debate in the Dail occured today.
& of course was in reference to a hypothetical fellatrix not a fellatrice. Well done deputy Howlin!
Quite a bit of history made there!

The Irish readers may also be relieved to know that the word Cunnilingus has only once appeared in the Irish legislature (also in the Senate) during Rape a debate in 1981.
http://historical-debates.oireachtas.ie/S/0095/S.0095.198104010003.html

The word Cunnilingus which is also first dated in published use to 1887, derives from from the modified latin "cunnus vulva" compounded with "lingere". The latin "neologism" would properly mean "one who licks a vulva," but it is used in english in reference to the action, not the actor. The verb ought to be cunnilingue . As of yet no-one has attempted to coin either words cunnilingutrie or cunnilingutrix
as the great etymologist Havelock Ellis wrote in 1905 : "Cunnilingus was a very familiar manifestation in classical times; ... it tends to be especially prevalent at all periods of high civilization". Obviously Dail debates haven't reached such high civilisation yet... because no-one has mentioned Cunnilingus yet.

Interestingly enough the British Parliament has also seen the word fellatio recorded 4 times since 1998 the year their parliamentary debate service "Hansard" makes available online searches.