tara and the future of the Gowhra Valley

by Question Fri Jul 29, 2005 17:59

Not to be too questioning but the title 'Tara and the future of the Gowhra Valley' suggests one thing but is this meeting really about the future of Tara & the valley?

It is worth noting that simply moving the M3 out of the valley can achieve preservation of the valley in the same way, as new transport initiatives.

At times it seems that other agendas masquerade in the clothes of Saving Tara, ie anti-roads agenda. This hasn't helped the Save Tara campaigns in the past.

Hopefully, this is different.

by ortem Sat Jul 30, 2005 19:29

Q.Not to be too questioning but the title 'Tara and the future of the Gowhra Valley' suggests one thing but is this meeting really about the future of Tara & the valley?

A. If we can visualise the Valley as a World Heritage Site and National Park, then we can try to promote it and make it happen.

Q. It is worth noting that simply moving the M3 out of the valley .....................

A. An independent survey says that 2 out of 3 people want the double tolled motorway, but outside of the valley.

Q. ............can achieve preservation of the valley in the same way, as new transport initiatives. At times it seems that other agendas masquerade in the clothes of Saving Tara, ie anti-roads agenda.

A. New transport initiatives, which are not anti roads but pro choice, might be an option that the 2 out of 3 in the survey haven't yet heard about.

Q. This hasn't helped the Save Tara campaigns in the past.

A. The campaigns are about Tara and the people who care about their heritage, their environment and more.

Q. Hopefully, this is different.

A. That's a shared hope.

by Hopeful Sat Jul 30, 2005 20:06

Good.

by cynical Sun Jul 31, 2005 01:21

What are the financial advantages to the three seater constituency in general, tara valley in particular, navan, if the tara complex gained world heritage site status?

I'd say the advertising value alone generated would be worth more than the cost of the road - cheap labour and bought up land included,. Look at how awfully tara is represented to the world by the state. Google it and see. Add negative publicity onto no publicity and the whole area suffers.

The Value of the advertising/publicity gained would pay in toto in the long term for the other road - and in the short term the other road would save enough public money on projected cost of presently projected route to build a hospital or other local amenities.

This is a winnable argument that must be sold to the new commuters along the present and projected road as beneficial for them, their pocket, kids, meath. The road will be insane anyway but that's simply the economy. If it's going to be insane let it be shorter and cheaper.

So much obfuscation has gone on that what is needed are very cold hard economic facts about why this decision was made and why it is a greedy short term decision that will not benefit the tara valley in particular and meath and ROI in general.

by Heritage park? What about Tara Park? Sun Jul 31, 2005 10:01

Take the train to Tara (Like you do with Fota Island) alighting at Tara station.

See where the High Kings lived, where croppies fought for Ireland and where St Patrick invented the shamrock..

Bit messy but you get my point