the Key to the Door.

by macd Fri Dec 31, 2004 11:43

People always seem to get very upset about the idea of how their grandparents went about winning or losing in the darkness, they do their best to keep it local, as if Ireland really was seperated from Europe during the Emergency as we termed 1939-1945 and had no experience at all, apart from a few Irish airmen of Yeatsian poetry, a few smuggled scientists of DeValera, and nice camp in the Curragh.
That way people think they keep things "safe". But thats not really the way at all in a land and nation or any land or any nation where the majority of people support football teams who's best players are foreigners and (ahem) dark of skin. We don't need barricades anymore.

from the Independent's correspondent in Madrid Elizabeth Nash:-

" A TUG of war over secret police files from the Spanish civil war has re-ignited the hostilities that split the nation regionally and politically nearly 70 years ago - with barricades included.

Spain's socialist government gave the green light this week to return to Catalonia files on Catalan anarchists, republicans, socialists and Freemasons who opposed Franco's forces between 1936 and 1939. The police files, reports on hundreds of thousands targeted for repression, were removed to Franco's military headquarters in the Castilian city of Salamanca in 1940, a year after his victory over Spain's republic.

The conservative mayor of Salamanca, Julian Lanzarote, insists, however, "not one document is leaving the city, whatever anyone says".

Yesterday the bemused folk of Salamanca, a deeply conservative city in a region that staunchly supported Franco's forces, awoke to find the handsome old military library that houses the archive surrounded by barricades, with the street closed to vehicles at both ends."

[[[[ perhaps a football league of them versus them would be too agressive, maybe better a ping pong tournament ]]]]
read all @ link

by pushing you through that door Fri Feb 25, 2005 21:44

Tony Blair (the anitchrist) reneged the FOI bill (of course) and most people who have asked for information under the new act have found their attempts blocked.
Tony today is backpeddling on his "lock up anyone who says I'm the antichrist" terror laws especially if they're a devout muslim or smellt a rat when Osama came up.
:-
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000102&sid=a3xclfjYfsJo&refer=uk
http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=4178629
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2005/02/24/dl2403.xml&sSheet=/news/2005/02/24/ixnewstop.html

only a week ago the antichrist said he wouldn't be so arrogant in future, but with his support slipping steadily to the Liberals, Conservatives, SNP,, SF, DUP, OUP, Plaid Cymru and BNP (in order of weight)
he's now decided to woo minimum wage voters-
http://news.ft.com/cms/s/a1f33f72-8760-11d9-84f3-00000e2511c8.html

you'll remember (please) they were one of the first lobbies he shafted.
along with the Forestry brigade, the anti road campaigners, the south london poor, the biotech campaigners, the civil rights campaigners, the north england poor, the scottish, (remember Dewey doing that John Smithy???) the aristocracy, the royal family (not people enough) the hot countries, the cold countries, the american people (who's coup you think it was?) and of course the UN.

get him out = wake up = cop on.

http://www.conservatives.com/tile.do?def=news.press.release.page&obj_id=120011

the antichrist divided you all to conquer you all.

by - Fri Mar 25, 2005 21:16

yesterday's Guaridan focussed on the mess left behind by a "handful" of foreign and commonwealth office secret intelligence service agents and analysts who led the USA and UK into a war they can't prosecute.

Now AN independent watchdog is deciding whether ministers are entitled to keep secret the Attorney General’s (lord Goldsmith's) war advice.

It is an open secret that he adviced the war was and is and always would be _illegal_.

It is also an open secret that a "handful" of SIS employees and agents and types lifted a few files off the internet and handed them to "all the facts" Tony Blair, and he went and helped Bush invade Babalon. They have jointly occupied the Babalon square of the global chess board for over two years now. It's a very sticky place to be. Look what it did to Saddam. Look what it's doing to world peace and stability. Look at what it's done to the price of Oil and Smack. Look at what it's doing to kids.

Oh well some people never learn.
which is why they're sent mad.

http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/politics/story.jsp?story=623445
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/politics/story.jsp?story=623446
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/politics/story.jsp?story=623450
http://news.scotsman.com/politics.cfm?id=318502005
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4381379.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4381771.stm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1445496,00.html

by iosaf Thu Jan 19, 2006 20:52

At the end of the Spanish civil war, the archives of the Catalan government (generalitat) were removed by the victors and housed in Salamanca. Since the transition to democracy, the Catalans have asked for the return of their property. People often do that after wars. Thats coz in wars some people go robbing. Strange to think, but war is often a very very dirty business. The people of Salamanca led by the mayor though objected in the strongest "PP" terms. They are a bastion of the right wing and since 31/12/04 have done their best to impede the restoration of the archives to their rightful custodians arguing that "the union of Spain would be challanged". Ah! its the anti-Catalanism again isn't it.
The documents weigh many tonnes and need a lot of very big truck containers to move, the sort of containers you normally associate with smothered asian illegal migrants. Last night the final, "ultimate" deadline came. The ministry of culture of the Spanish state went to Salamanca where the archive building has been surrounded in road works, excavated roads, and a security cage ever since the Spanish right in the form of local mayor Julian Lanzarote got wind of the return. A predecessor of his did actually manage to block an earlier return in the late 20th century.

The deal is presently this :-
The ministry of culture will transport these containers of files on Catalan anarchists, republicans, socialists and Freemasons who opposed Franco's forces between 1936 and 1939 back to our city. (you all know where I live).

But Julian Lanzarote who as a Spanish state city mayor may order local police to act mobilised them to "protect" the archive from theft. The result was the order by the Ministry of Culture for "national spanish police" back-up.

The documents will (as part of a Spanish state unity game) pass through Madrid on their roundabout way to Barcelona.

some of the stolen property is coming home.