A Slap across the wrist for Berlusconi

by hs - sp Mon Jun 14, 2004 21:52

to everyone in the party, your hard work paid off!!!

by Non-sectarian Jackeen leftie Tue Jun 15, 2004 10:58

Well done to all the left wing candidates who polled well.
Well done to Clare Daly, Ruth Coppinger, Michael Murphy and Joan Collins on winning seats.
Serious hard luck to Lisa Maher, Pat Dunne, Gino Kenny, Brid Smith, RBB and Ceiran Perry who came so close and to all those who polled very well and showed that there was room for a radical left voice amidst the SF tide.

by Reminder Tue Jun 15, 2004 11:02

I think you forgot Mick Barry, who topped the poll in Cork North Central.

I don't think that the SWPers mention (Smith, Boyd Barrett, don't know about Kenny) were all that close to seats either, although all three polled well.

by Non-sectarian Jackeen Tue Jun 15, 2004 11:15

I was referring to Dublin.
At one stage it looked as if RBB and Kenny might win seats. They finished in the seat places on first prefereneces. I just felt it necessary to mention the other lefts as the SP seem to be backslapping only their own, which is sectarian.

by Stick Tue Jun 15, 2004 11:59

If you are talking about left wing winners outside of Dublin, don't forget the Workers Party won two seats in Waterford City.

by hs - sp Wed Jun 16, 2004 17:33

FINAL RESULTS IN ITALIAN EURO ELECTIONS

Uniti Nell'Ulvio 31% 25 seats
(centre left coalition led by ex communist Democratic Left and Prodi)

Verdi (greens) 2,5% 2 seats

Communistsi Italiani (PDCI) 2.4% 2 seats
(Split from the PRC after it left the last centre left coalition to remain in the coalition)

Di Pietro (anti corruption) 2.1% 2 seats

AP - UDEUR 1.3% 1 seats

Rifondazione Communista 6.1% 5 seats

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Total Centre Left/Communist 45.5% 37 seats
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Forza Italia (Berlusconi's party) 21% 16 seats

Allenza Nazionale 11.9% 9 seats
(ex fascists led by Fini)

UDC (reformed Christian democrats) 5.9% 5 seats

Lega Nord 5% 4 seats
(Northern nationalists/separatists led by Bossi)

Socilisti Uniti 2% 2 seats
(the remains of the corrupt Craxi led socialist party. A right wing party
who while not in the "house of liberty" coalition now will probably
join for the general election in 2006)

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Total Centre Right 45,4% 36 seats
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

OTHER LISTS

Lista Bonnino (radical party) 2.3% 2 seats
(strange but more likely to join a centre left gov.)

Alternative Sociale (Mussolini) 1.2% 1 seat
(Fascist and neo nazi coalition)

Fiamma Tricolore 0.7% 1 seat
(Traditional Fascist party which split from MSI after it formed the national alliance, nasty)

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Notes:

The greens increased their vote by 1% since 1999 and 0.5% since national elections in 2001.
The PDCI gained about 0.3% since 1999 and 0.6% since 2001.
Rifondazione gained 1% as well as an extra seat.
In total the centre left gained 3% since 1991 but only 1% since 2001

Forza Italia dropped 3 points since 1999 but almost 8 points since 2001.
National Alliance lost half a percent since 2001 but gained one third of a percent since the last euro election.
The UDC gained 1% since 1999 and about a half since 2001.
Lega Nord gained half a percent since 2001 but dropped a little compared to 1999.

The Lista Bonnino suffered a disaster losing about 6 points.

The Fascists won two seats, Mussolini taking an impressive 1.3% on the lists first time out. While helping to legitimise neo nazi parties including Forza Nouva. While the "old Fascist" Fiamma Tricolore although winning a seat dropped 0.3% in support. (probably going to la duceina). But it should be remembered Italians vote very differently in euro elections with personalities playing a big role. For example Fiamma Tricolore only took 0.3% in the last national elections in 2001 while 1.2% in the euro elections two years before.

by hs - sp Wed Jun 16, 2004 17:35

strange comments concerning the italian elections. anyway sorry if i offended anyone just congratulationg friends and comrades, nothing sectarian meant about it and congratulations to everyone else on the left who stood.