Eyewitness of Iraq Occupation speaks at Wynns Hotel June 8th

by Hall & Oates Thu Jun 03, 2004 02:07

It's only because of America that's he's allowed to publish that leftwing rag again.

Talk about ingratitude.

by Northern Eye Thu Jun 03, 2004 16:37

Yes, and the Arab world will thank you for it with a hundred years of bombings in America.

by Phil Boylan Thu Jun 03, 2004 19:40

Northern Eye I believe you are talking absolute shite. Or is that Shi-ite!! Seriously, there is not a chance in hell any of these terrorist groups will still be facing the same ol shit 100 years from now. The 'War on Terror' will last if even 10 years. After that either the US government will change and renounce it to an extent or the Terrorist groups will be so decimated, that they will cease to pose a threat to the American Homeland. There has been TWO attacks on America from Islamic Extremists in over 14 years, jesus by that rate in 100 years there are only gonna be about another 7 or 8. They will be so infrequent as to be unnoticable to the American population. Its not gonna be like the North where your beloved IRA attacked innocent protestants and English people, as well as killing some nasty Loyalists, or where the much despised UVF, UFF et al attacked innocent Catholics and eradicated some nasty Republicans. Not a chance, the distances are too big, the abilities are limited and the population are too easily scared.

And I must also point out that most Muslims felt sorrow for September 11th and as such if a protracted attack on America were to originate form a Muslim terror group, eventually the Muslims themselves would poliec the group to just help stop the bullshit.

Either way , I would doubt if the War on Terror will still exist by 2020 and it won't be because America lost to a bunch of fundy Islamic nutbags.

by Northern Eye Thu Jun 03, 2004 21:10

Well I see a whole generation of young muslims being radicalized by the screaming pig-people who wave flags in the rich land and demand bombs on the poor people. I see these muslims out of their minds with anger and hate as they watch their brothers and sisters being raped and murdered and blown to nothing on television by pig-people from the rich land. I see these people seething with anger that they're ruled by fat corrupt fucks who take their natural resources and sell it to the rich land for pennies just so the rich land will let them hang onto power for just another day. I see them being driven into the hands of cruel and militant men who promise them a eternity of richs in paradies if they'll attack the rich land. I see these people slipping into the rich land, or maybe recruting people who already live there and who are sympathetic to their cause. I see them carrying out suicide bombings in trains, in pubs and discos, in possibly even schools. I see the people of the rich land in fear for their lives at every corner even after a few bombs. 'Why' they ask. 'Why do they hate us so much'. and the pig-people will scream 'Because they hate our freedoms. They can't stand that we're free!' ( just ask the good people of Sweden or Brazil or Mexico. They'll tell ya about those nasty Muslims who torture them just because their free). I see the pig-people grunting loudly, baying for blood against an unseen enemy. I see them demanding more planes over more muslim countries, (not to invade and bring democracy this time, because the adventure to do so in Iraq has been a disaster with an even more Western hating government in power than Saddams old one!). I see them lost and scared and grunting even louder as more bombs go off and more evil acts are committed on their soil and maybe even germs are realesed into their water supply and all that craic. Their grunts are so loud now they can be heard all over the Muslim world. Cities are destroyed, holy sites are damaged forever, more and more Muslim people line up for a one way ticket to heaven( except the rich land has now closed its borders so the new wave of suicide killers are now actually radical citizens of that land-outcast and educated and more ruthless than ever. People who you would never suspect. Maybe some of them are pilots. Who knows). More bombings and an endless cycle of revenge as the pig-people sing their endless dead symphony. Then BOOM!! Somebody lets off some sort of nuclear bomb in the rich land. Millions die. The rich land releases a couple of dozen at the poor land. Maybe by this time some other countries in the poor land have been taken over by the religious guys with long beards and they've managed to build a few wee bombs themselves and they launch them back at the rich land which goes ape shite and destroys the rest of the fucking world because the pig-people think its the only way. Just as they always did. And such a tragedy. Just because the dam muslims were so jealous of the rich land and hated its freedoms. Just ask the people in Iceland or even Ireland. Targeted all the time by muslims they are.

by Phil Boylan Fri Jun 04, 2004 01:00

Can we please keep this reasonable and not start calling nations by 'Pig-People' I assume you refer to the Americans here, which just detracts from your argument. You see if you acknowledged that there are a proportion of Americans who think this way and a proportion who do not, you would seem less ranting. The previous post was pure shit again.

You see these people queuing to join AQ or whoever, well that don't mean shit, coz there is a big difference between joining AQ or whatever in Iraq and getting your ass anywhere near 'Pig-People' central.

You think a Nuclear weapon will be set off, I tell you its inevitable, why? Coz its Human fucking nature, there has never been a weapon invented in the History of our species that we have not eventually used against each other. The only difference being that I know that neither Islamic extremists, White Supremist nutters, nor Iraqid dissidents have the technical know-how, money or ability to get a fully functioning Nuclear weapon into America. There are too many checks for it to happen.

The most that they could wish for is a Dirty Nuke, and the most you could kill with one of them outright would be at max 2000-5000 people and that would have to be a nasty fucking nuke fairly well packed.

If they got their hands on an old Russian Nuke, OK how are they going to deliver it. You'd need an ICBM. Putting it on a plane won't do anything as the fail-safes make it impossible to detonate a nuke by simply blowing something up near it. There are also 101 safety features on most Nukes to prevent accidental launch, or detonation. Either way a Nuke attack will happen, but it will be a dirty Nuke and I guarantee Bush will not go to a full all out tactical Nuclear scenario over a dirty bomb. Its not feasable and it is counter-productive.

As for the people joining these groups, maybe they are, but do you honestly believe that in 50 years, the next generation is really going to give a shit about this stuff so much that truckloads will be joining these islamic groups. By that reasoning, you make it seem as if nothing good will happen in the Middle East in that time frame, and that these people will never have anything good happen between now and then. Of course right now with fresh emtional and probably physical scars people are begging to join the Jihad, but with time, minds change, people realise there are better ways to fight your enemy. People sometimes join their enemy, other times, they just get on with whatever lives they can, why because its human nature to survive.

Sometimes I wonder who the anti-war group are calling naive when you accuse americans of believing that all Iraqis are suicide bombers. I mean its just not true that they will all be joinging there Jihad, in fact there will only ever be a small proportion who decide that this is the life for them, in reality the majority of Iraqis and middle Eastern people will choose another path.

by Northern Eye Fri Jun 04, 2004 01:39

Yes, oh yes. The mid-east guys will all give up and accept the good ole American empire la la la la la. And as for the American plan for Palestine well, I'm sure we're in for another 50 years of peace over that too.

Ohhhh, you're very sure that in this whole big wide world, so full of hate and corruption and greed that somebody, somewhere, sometime will not get his hands on a wee nuke or two on the black market or won't find the knowhow to make one under the eyes of the fantastic 'intelligence' services of the West. The only miracle will be if they don't. It is possible to bring a small nuclear device over in a suitcase. It might not take all of New York or Washington but it'll fair do a right wee bit of damage let me tell you son. Fuck I don't know, maybe some of the pig-people (no, never said all Americans are oinkers. Just the cretins who wave flags and support wars against the pesky poor people of the world. Don't forget who's living the biggest sty ) will welcome them with open arms because then they can get down to the real business of creating the right climate for the Prince of Peace to come back and burn all the baddies and bring all the goodies to live with him in the sky. Don't forget the pig-people in the White House are all part of this insane Christian cult which wants this to happen so much.

I'd say millions of Muslims do support the ole Bin laders now. I'd say so. I'd say it'll be dam difficult to keep them all out of America forever. Remember only 19 of them were involved in the actions of 9/11. Remember that not all Muslims come from the poor land. Remember that a lot of them come from the rich land. And that there could be some in that number who are so fucking pissed off with the country that murders and walks all over their co-religionists in other parts of this crazy planet that they might well decide to attack the good old US. Could happen. Could happen that some of these people have scientific backgrounds or access to planes and boats. Could be they could cause BIG trouble me lad. The drums of war are beating a loud and incesstant tattoo - the genie of destruction ain't going back into the bottle. The pig-people won't let it. They're too hungry and ignorant and brain washed. Could be we're fucked. Or at least a large section of Earthlings are. Or could be it'll all turn our rosy after all and the Muslims will forget their grivences and the US will stop behaving like a pig and the lovely Israelis will give the Palestinians a fair deal and it dosen't matter anyway because one of the biggest countries in the world, with bases and interests and people everywhere will be protected forever and ever Amen. Maybe even by the invisible man who lives in the clouds.