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2001-2011, 10 YEARS of the 'war on terror'

category dublin | anti-war / imperialism | event notice author Monday August 15, 2011 23:20author by Steering Committee - Irish Antiwar Movementauthor email info at irishantiwar dot org Report this post to the editors

IAWM Public Meeting

Irish Anti-War Movement Public Meeting: 2001-2011, 10 YEARS of the 'war on terror'

Irish Anti-War Movement Poster
Irish Anti-War Movement Poster

10 YEARS of the war on Terror

Saturday, 10 September 2011Gresham Hotel, 23 Upper O’Connell Street, Dublin 1


Public Meeting: Imperialism and Islamophobia

Time: 14:00

Speakers: Terry Eagleton | Hiafa Zangana

Debate: The War on Terror - Was it Justified?

Time: 16:00 Speakers: TBA


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author by opus diablos - the regressive hypocrite partypublication date Wed Aug 17, 2011 16:09author address author phone Report this post to the editors

...get your hands on the latest update on the Strangelovers antics, Ron Rosenbaum's 'How The End Begins',(The road to a nuclear World War III) Simon & Schuster, 2011.

Cancel Hallowe'en, this one is the real ghoulash. Fear and loathing at Nuke central. The current state of play in their terminal great game. They have'nt gone away, just diversified and redelegated. The calculus of total annihilation. Includes automatic-retaliation, biosterilisation guarantee. Homo Plutonius, dumber than the average bear.

author by Junior B Hurlerpublication date Thu Aug 18, 2011 18:23author address author phone Report this post to the editors

As can be seen from todays actions with a terrorist hamas attack in southern Israel which resulted in many innocent deaths - but no codemnation from anyone here (surprise). Israel retaliated and their police killed some terrorists which, no doubt, will cause an outcry here from the usual suspects.

author by tsk tskpublication date Thu Aug 18, 2011 19:34author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Hamas have explicitly stated that they had nothing to do with it. Usually Hamas claim reesponsibilty for it's attacks. So your statement that it is Hamas has absolutely nothing to back it up. But then the majority of such statement by Zio-racists such as yourself rarely ever do

The attack came from the Siani side of the border, even the Isralei Military admit as much, and Hamas do not control the Sinai.

Your sad little attempt to blame people from Gaza for this is just unfounded speculation. For all you kinow it could be Israelis themselves trying to manufactue a casus belli to launch yet anothe massacre in Gaza. It's pretty clear from their recent unprovoked bombing raids on Gaza that they'd like nothing better. They are certainly not averse to doing such things and there is evidence that they have done so in the past.

Also : Reports said most of the passengers on the bus were Israeli soldiers who are residents of Eilat and were on their way home from their respective bases for the weekend.

So your claim that there were "many [actually 5] innocent deaths" doesn't really stand-up, since Israeli Soldiers are, by definition not really "innocent".

But any unessecary death is regrettable, and should be condemned irrespective of the targets or the perpetrators. Whoever did this, is interested in escalating the tension. And the Israeli Military are as guilty of that as anyone else in the area, given the many unprovoked attacks carried out by the Israeli military in the past few weeks.

Over the last few weeks Israel has repeatedly bombed Gaza without any provocation what so ever

So Israel didnn't retaliate' at all - it just decided to go kill even more Palestinians than it had killed in the past week.

Israel doesn'tt even neeed the excuse of Israeli being attacked in Southern Israel in order to justify to itself it's desire to kill Palestinians - it does it almost on a daily basis without ANY procovation at all

for example: 6 Palestinians have been killed in A Rafah city, one of them was a child.

OR : In a New Crime, Israeli Military Kills Disabled Child in Central Gaza - http://www.imemc.org/article/61850
"Sa'd Abdul Rahim Mahmoud al-Majdalwai, 17 year old, from al-Nussairat refugee camp was hit by 10 live bullets mostly to the head by the IOF.He was a disabled child suffering from a mental disability and a speech impairment. He was left wounded without being offered any first aid."

But of course Zio-racists like yourself see no need to condemn the killing of actual innocents, as long as they are Palestinian

author by Junior B Hurlerpublication date Thu Aug 18, 2011 20:05author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Do you realise how stupid you sound - 5 is not many innocent deaths huh, it would be in your eyes if they were hamas terrorists.And you actually believe the hamas terrorist denial, how quaint.  How do you know that the gunmen didn't travel from Gaza, through and unpoliced border with Egypt and up through a minimally policed border with Israel (as suggested on BBC news not just "reports say").I was referring, if you took the time to read before typing the usual tripe about how innocent the poor Palestinians are, to the fact, that no-one here would condem the terrorist attack on innocent Israelis today.

author by Mauaji ni Kifopublication date Thu Aug 18, 2011 22:05author address author phone Report this post to the editors

It is seven Israelies killed on the bus, but that is alright isn't it tsk tsk because you highlight most were only off duty soldiers. But wait, are the palestinian militias killed at home not also off duty soldiers.

author by Rosenbudpublication date Fri Aug 19, 2011 01:04author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Unlike you, Jnr, I never made any silly claim that I KNEW who did, or did not, do this.

Unlike you I simply stated the few known facts - no one has claimed responsibility, and the people you have pointed your little racist finger at have actually explicitly denied responsibilty.

I pointed out that had they done it they probably would have claimed respnsibilty for it, since that is what they usually do, as they think it adds to their 'reputation', such as it is, on the street. And this they did not do.

I don't know if they are telling the truth, and neither do you, but unlike you, I have made no statements claiming that I know who did it.

I noted only that the Israeli miltiary and newsreports concur that the attackers came over the border from the Sinai.

Unlike you I did not make up any nonsense about where they came from before that, because neither you nor I know where they originated from, only that the crossed over the Sinai border, and escaped back that way.

Regarding your insistence that the victims are "Innocent Israeli's": Again this is nonsense.

Israeli they may be, but since the victims were all Israeli Military personell they cannot claim to be 'inncoent' or 'civilian'.

Since Israeli Military wear uniforms and are readily identifiable as Military, they are in no way considered civilians, and therefore you cannot honestly claim that they are mere 'innocents'.

Not that that will stop you of course.
It never does with your kind, does it?

I have already said that any unessecary loss of life is regrettable, and certainly the loss of these young peoples lives is regrettable.

I do note however that Israeli has been bombing Gaza repeatedly over the last few weeks, if not months, usually without ANY provocation whatsoever from the Gazan side, so I can only presume that today's attack MAY have something to do with that.

If it does then obviously it is a REACTION to the Israeli provocations.

Since the Israeli provocations are so unessecary, they certainly must share a large part of the blame, since their bombing raids were unprovoked. Those bombing raids are certainly equal to any 'terrorist attack', though I note that you have ignored them completely. This is not surprising since people like you generally ignore Israel State terror on innocent civilians.

In this instance I am actually referring to Real civilians not Israeli miilitary personel, like the victims in this attack. Being Military they cannot qualify as 'innocent civilians' as I said earleir.

"But wait, are the palestinian militias killed at home not also off duty soldiers."

I have no idea - Israel NEVER presents ANY evidence, it just seems to kill anyone it likes, and claims that the people it killed were 'terrorists' but it is impossible to verify one way or the other.

Unlike you I have learned to take Israeli statement with a large pinch of salt, since they have been caught-out lying so many many times.

There was a time where I actually believed Israeli Military statemants regarding the assinations, terror attacks and palin old murders it carries out on an almost daily basis, but not any more. They have been caught blatantly lying waaaaaaaaaaaay too many times now for anyone of intelligence to continue beliving their lies.

author by Conorpublication date Fri Aug 19, 2011 01:35author address author phone Report this post to the editors

The one thing Israel is most afraid of is a population that THINKS!

So, think!
Why would HAMAS or indeed any Palestinian carry out any kind of an attack against Israel right now, this close to the United Nations vote on Palestinian statehood?

Such an act only helps Israel and harms Palestine, and of course justifies Israel's CAST LEAD II to wipe Palestine off of the map before the United Nations vote can even occur, providing Netanyahu with the war he desperately needs to distract from the riots taking place in Israel itself.

This is more likely to be an Israeli false-flag, if for no other reason than to "Demonstrate" Israel's "need" for more US Tax Dollars to all those US Congressmen just coincidentally there in Israel for indoctrination!

author by Conorpublication date Fri Aug 19, 2011 02:15author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Wow. you really are a trolling, rabid Zionist. Take your HASBARA elsewhere. It doesnt work. I doubt you care much for the people that died - its all great propoganda for yoursel and the other lunatic Zionists. 

I am sad - and more will die.

End the brutal occupation of Palestine, stop the house demolitions, stop the water shortages, stop the phosperous attacks, stop the attacks on hospitals, airports, schools and other basic infrastructures, stop the shootings, stop the tanks, stop the chekpoints, stop the roadblocks, stop building walls inside Palestine, let them fish in their sea, let them work their land, let them build their lives, stop punishing the civilian population for resisting vicous occupation and colonialisation of their land.

FREE PALESTINE, BOYCOTT ISRAELI APARTHEID (and try not to take Zionist propgnada seriously - even if they are well trained, payed and equipped)

author by Junior B Hurlerpublication date Fri Aug 19, 2011 09:54author address author phone Report this post to the editors

for the confimation that you support the murder of innocent Israeli citizens Mr Rosenbud/tsk/by think.  "I have already said that any unessecary loss of life is regrettable" hardly a condemnation  - actually makes you sound like Cameron.  The rest of your contribution is just the usual rhetoric rehashed.  Conor, is that the best you can do - resort to childish name calling, you ARE sad, on your "Stop the" list how about the kaytusha attacks and the brainwashed suicide bombers!   Bye bye

author by Rosenbudpublication date Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:16author address author phone Report this post to the editors

As stated already the victims are not innocents - they are soldiers - only a Zionist, essentially a borderline psychopathic affliction, akin to Nazism, would claim that soldiers are 'innocents'. Even Hitler never went THAT far.

Israel and it's supporters claim that Israel is at war with Hamas, and therefore the people of Gaza must be subject to collective punishment.

NOW you want the right to claim that soldiers in the military of Israel, which is supposedly at war, are 'innocents'?
You truly are a bizarrely deluded individual, but then your love of the Nazi-like ideology of Zionism already signaled that.

Only a lying asshole would try to claim that soldiers constitute 'innocents' while there is a war going on.

The victims are members of a Military tha5t is regularly accused of war crimes and crimes against humanity, and Zio-lunatic that you are, you want the right to demand that they been seen as 'innocents'?

Even Hitler never went THAT far.

citizens of Israel they may be - Innocent they are not

author by Junior B Hurlerpublication date Fri Aug 19, 2011 13:22author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Terrorists, who don't dress in uniform are innocent though and we must heap praise on their efforts, What have you been drinking? Well at least the clowns are blowing themselves up today.  Go get yer prayer mat out for them Rosie!

author by Rosenbudpublication date Fri Aug 19, 2011 13:33author address author phone Report this post to the editors

No one said anything about 'terrorists' being innocent.

No one, not you or any your fellow psychopathic supporters of Zionism , knows if the people that Israel kills on a daily basis are 'terrorists' or not, since Israel never offers anything remotely resembling proof

Israel has completely discredited any statements it may make to that effect by having already frequently made statements which are later proven to be complete lies.

Are you claiming that the women and children murdered daily by the Israeli military are 'terrorists'?

All I have done is point out to you the absolute you stupidity in you trying to claim, in a time of war that soldiers constitute 'innocent' Israelis.

Your inability to understand this very simple point leads me to suspect that you are a bit of an idiot, to be honest.

author by Rosenbudpublication date Fri Aug 19, 2011 14:09author address author phone Report this post to the editors

since Jnr and the Israelis are blaming Hamas for this, it is curious that the Israeli military immediately decided to go out and murder 5 Egyptian Policemen in retaliation

author by hahahapublication date Fri Aug 19, 2011 16:43author address author phone Report this post to the editors

seriously Junior, you sound like a seriously deranged mental patient.

I never said 'ANY Israeli' - I said "Israeli Soldier" I realise as a professional Zio-loon you have a hard time being truthful, but your need to just make-shit-up is hilariously moronic at this point - are you now claiming that if Israel claims it is in a war, then no one is allowed target it's soldiers?

YOU and the Israelis claimed that Hamas did this - yet they went and murdered Egyptian Police in retaliation. If Hamas did it then why kill Egyptian Police? Obviously the Israelis don't really believe that Hamas did this, but of course that won't stop them killing Gazans just for the fun of it.

author by Rosenbudpublication date Sat Aug 20, 2011 13:54author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Yesterday, an Israeli drone performed heroically for Der Isräelische Väterland by incinerating a car carrying a Palestinian doctor and his family to hospital seeking treatment for a sick child. The doctor, his brother, and the doctor’s little boy were killed in the attack.

The Nazi-like Isräelische Väterland announced: Oops, we missed

I await your [borderline psychotic?] condemnation of this despicable act of naked terrorism against actual real civilian, actual real innocents, with bated breath

author by Junior B Hurlerpublication date Sat Aug 20, 2011 15:00author address author phone Report this post to the editors

I'll mimic your own comment (change the villains round a bit?)"I have already said that any unessecary loss of life is regrettable, and certainly the loss of these young peoples lives is regrettable. I do note however that Palestinians have been terrorizing Israel repeatedly over the last few weeks, if not months, usually without ANY provocation whatsoever from the Israeli side, so I can only presume that today's attack MAY have something to do with that"

author by opus diablos - the regressive hypocrite partypublication date Sat Aug 20, 2011 15:09author address author phone Report this post to the editors

..so when you get home from work monday evening and find I've changed the locks on your front door, evicted those relatives i didn't slaughter, and accused you of terrorising me for demanding the right to return, you will understand why I feel it necessary to eliminate you.

author by Junior you ratbag liarpublication date Sat Aug 20, 2011 15:13author address author phone Report this post to the editors

"I have already said that any unessecary loss of life is regrettable, "

NO you didn't - you're lying again.

"I do note however that Palestinians have been terrorizing Israel "

These were INNOCENT civilians. INNOCENT Palestinian civilians have not been terrorising Israel at all - again you are lying. Of course to a racist like yourself all Palestinians are terrorists and it is ok to kill women and children as long as they are Palestinian. What a disgusting fascist ratbag you are, Junior.

"without ANY provocation whatsoever from the Israeli side, "

AGAIN with the lying. Since Israel has been bombing Gaza repeatedly over the past few months there has been ample provocation from the Israeli side.

So basically almost every word of your reply was a blatant lie, Junior.

What is it with you Zio-racists and the lies? Is there a special school you attend to learn to pack so many lies into so few words?

author by Jnrpublication date Sun Aug 21, 2011 11:50author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Well here's a neutral article - note that Israeli civilians WERE killed on the terrorist attack on the bus.

Time to wake up to the fact that Hamas are a terrorist regime - how would you like it if the same kind of nutters - say the Real IRA - ran the show in the Ireland.


author by opus diablos - the regressive hypocrite partypublication date Sun Aug 21, 2011 13:28author address author phone Report this post to the editors

..like the way Irgun and other Jewish terrorist organisations founded the modern Israeli state, jnr?

author by opus diablos - the regressive hypocrite partypublication date Sun Aug 21, 2011 13:41author address author phone Report this post to the editors

...of your hypotheseis of a Real IRA takeover, if you opposed them they would simply outlaw your opposition and label YOU terrorist for opposing their 'legitimacy'. Think about it.

author by Jnrpublication date Sun Aug 21, 2011 15:31author address author phone Report this post to the editors

If governments would lock up apologists for terrorists like yourselves, fundraisers and blind sympatizers.  Then there might be no need for a war on terror!

Think ? - well you and I think along very different lines.

As it stands, thanks be to God we have the USA to act as world policeman and mop up after the atrocities.

On the tenth anniversay of the 9/11 mass murder, I will remember the victims and and be happy in the knowledge that Bin Laden got his just deserts.

author by opus diablos - the regressive hypocrite partypublication date Sun Aug 21, 2011 18:35author address author phone Report this post to the editors

'..apologists for terrorists like yourselves..'I am not plural. I am a single self. Where have I apologised for terrorists?

author by Zionsim = Nazismpublication date Tue Aug 23, 2011 05:12author address author phone Report this post to the editors

[Lack of] Evidence undermines Israeli gov’t claim that Eilat attackers were Gazans - http://mondoweiss.net/2011/08/evidence-undermines-gov%e....html

During the weekend, the news website Real News interviewed a senior IDF Spokesman officer, Lt. Col. Avital Leibovitz, who’s in charge of the IDF Spokesman with the international media. Leibowitz denied that the IDF connects the PRC to the attacks, said she was not responsible for that the prime minister said, but claimed that the attackers did come from Gaza, citing as proof the fact they were using Kalashnikov assault rifies (Sic! 2:28 and onwards in the video). I dunno how to put it to Col. Leibovitz, but Kalashnikovs are the most common light assault rifle in the world – a gift that keeps on giving from the defunct Soviet Union – and are rather easy to get all over the Middle East.

In a phone conversation with Leibovitz yesterday, she said “senior officials have already expressed themselves on the issue”, and declined to provide more information on the attackers, aside from insisting on them being Gazans. I asked her if she could provide me with the identity of the attackers killed by the IDF, which was until recently standard procedure, carried out within hours of an attack. She said this is unfortunately impossible, and repeatedly insisted they were Gazans. B’Tselem researchers in the Strip, contacted via B’Tselem today, were unaware of the identity of the attackers. Again, usually they are quickly identified and a mourners’ hut is rapidly constructed. They were killed on Thursday; if they resided in the Strip, their families would have heard of their deaths by now.

Yesterday evening the Egyptian newspaper Al Masry Al Youm reported that Egyptian security forces have identified three of the dead attackers. Egypt has a strong interest to claim the attackers were Gazans, since this would lessen its responsibility for the attacks; nevertheless, they say at least two of the attackers were known terrorists in the Sinai Peninsula. As far as I could find out, the rest of the bodies are in the hands of the IDF – which, again, does not reveal their identity.

And probably with good reason. After all, it seems Barak and Netanyahu pulled off a major disinformation campaign here, which the IDF (in the form of Colonel Leibovitz) has to cooperate with, somewhat unwillingly. They took us to a false war against the Gaza Strip. You can’t really blame Leibovitz: She’s a uniformed officer. She can’t contradict “senior officials [who] have already expressed themselves on the issue”.

author by Rosenbudpublication date Tue Aug 23, 2011 07:15author address author phone Report this post to the editors

The extreme Zionist [a NAZI-like ideology] group, which governs Israel, established by the terrorist Menachem Begin, and Hamas, the Palestinian Islamist group which governs the Gaza Strip, say they have agreed to a ceasefire after five days of violence

Gaza is a sort of massive Ghetto/Concentration Camp into which have been forcibly herded over 1.5 million Gazan citizens

The most recent phase of the violence was in the aftermath of a terror attack in which 8 people died, citizens of the land claimed by the extreme Zionist [a NAZI-like ideology] group, all of them adults and some of them soldiers. However for the previous few months the Zionist [a NAZI-like ideology] group had been bombing the Gaza Ghetto/Concentration Camp without any provocation at all, and with little in the way of retaliation from the Palestinian Islamist group

The Zionist [a NAZI-like ideology] group blamed the Hamas Palestinian Islamist group firstly then the PRC, [another Palestinian Islamist group] and so far the only 'proof' offered that the attckers were from Gaza was the fact they were using Kalashnikov assault rifies.

However Egyptian forces claim that one of the attackers definitely was a known extremist from the Egyptian-held Sinai area.

Subsequent Zionist [a NAZI-like ideology] 'retaliation' has so far killed more than 20 people in the Gaza Ghetto/Concentration Camp, some of them children, even though what little 'evidence' has been produced by the extreme Zionist [a NAZI-like ideology] group points away from culpability of Gazan Ghetto-inhabitants/Concentration Camp inmates and towards the Sinai

Now it transpires that the Security-wing of the extremist Zionist [a NAZI-like ideology] group had foreknowledge of the attack, including the date and approximate location.

author by Zioinism = Nazismpublication date Tue Aug 23, 2011 08:46author address author phone Report this post to the editors

81 Reasons Why Gaza has the right to self-defense- http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL1103/S00256/80-reasons...e.htm By Julie Webb-Pullman Seventy-nine of them can be found in United Nations Security Council Resolutions

“directly critical of Israel for violations of U.N. Security Council resolutions, the U.N. Charter, the Geneva Conventions, international terrorism, or other violations of international law.” (1)

Number 80 can be found in the Goldstone Report (2), the recommendations of which have yet to implemented some 18 months after its submission to the Human Rights Council, and Paragraph 1912 of which stresses

“all States parties to the Fourth Geneva Convention relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War of 12 August 1949 have in addition the obligation, while respecting the United Nations Charter and international law, to ensure compliance by Israel with international humanitarian law as embodied in that Convention."

Has that happened? Clearly not. (3) The most compelling reason number 81, can be found in the United Nations Charter, Article 52 which states:

“Nothing in the present Charter shall impair the inherent right of individual or collective self-defence if an armed attack occurs against a Member of the United Nations, until the Security Council has taken measures necessary to maintain international peace and security.” (4)

There would also be a Reason 82, but for the United States power of veto exercised in the Security Council in February 2011. (5) If the international community has abandoned its responsibilities towards Palestinians, and particularly towards Gaza, as the above examples over the last 63 years plus this map of Palestinian territories so graphically illustrate, what else is left to Gaza but self-defense? Israel and its chorUS disingenuously cite Israel’s right of “self-defense” to justify not only Israel’s disproportionate military response to Gaza - and Palestinians’ - genuine right to self-defense, but also to attempt to disguise Israel’s blatant land-theft from existing citizens.

Zionist Land-theft: 1948 to 2000. The rate of  Zionist land theft has inceased dramatically since 2000
Zionist Land-theft: 1948 to 2000. The rate of Zionist land theft has inceased dramatically since 2000

author by Zioism = Nazismpublication date Tue Aug 23, 2011 08:49author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Palestinian Doctor: Israel using new weapons against Gaza - http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=415442

GAZA CITY (Ma'an) -- The head of an emergency ward in a Gaza City hospital said Monday that Israeli forces were using new, more brutal weapons against residents of the Gaza Strip.

On Thursday, Israeli forces began a four-day bombarded the coastal enclave killing 14 Palestinians and wounding dozens more in a series of airstrikes and drone attacks.

Dr Ayman As-Sahbani said patients were admitted with horrific injuries and that some bodies delivered to Al-Shifa Hospital were so badly burned they were unrecognizable.

He said Israeli weapons made no distinction between women, children and the elderly, pointing out that a two-year-old toddler and a 13-year-old boy were among those killed in the latest escalation.

author by Thats amazingpublication date Tue Aug 23, 2011 12:19author address author phone Report this post to the editors


to see so much info and anti jewish hate - what about these 420 civilians, as usual they do not figuret in your warped up logic.  this list only goes up to 2008 -Good day.

Death of Asel Asleh October 2, 2000 Arraba   1

Murder of Ofir Rahum January 17, 2001 Ramallah Tanzim 1

Murder of Shalhevet Pass March 26, 2001 Hebron Palestinian sniper 1

Dolphinarium discotheque suicide bombing June 1, 2001  Hamas 21

Sbarro restaurant suicide bomb August 9, 2001 Downtown Jerusalem Hamas and Islamic Jihad 15

Ben Yehuda Street Bombing December 1, 2001 Downtown Jerusalem Hamas 11

Haifa bus 16 suicide bombing December 2, 2001 Haifa Hamas 15

Tel-Aviv central bus station massacres January 25, 2002 Hamas 15

Yeshivat Beit Yisrael massacre March 2, 2002 Jerusalem Fatah al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades 11

Café Moment bombing March 9, 2002 Rehavia, Jerusalem Hamas 11

Passover massacre March 27, 2002 Park Hotel, Netanya Hamas 30

Matza restaurant suicide bombing March 31, 2002 Haifa Hamas 15

Rishon LeZion attack May 7, 2002 Rishon Lezion Hamas 16

Egged bus 830 massacre June 5, 2002 Megiddo Junction Islamic Jihad 17

Patt junction bus bombing June 18, 2002 Jerusalem Hamas 19

French Hill attacks June 19, 2002 Jerusalem al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades 10

Egged bus 841 suicide bombing October 21, 2002 Wadi Ara Islamic Jihad 14

Kiryat Menachem bus bombing November 21, 2002 Kiryat Menahem, Jerusalem Hamas 11

Tel-Aviv central bus station massacre January 5, 2003 Southern Tel Aviv Fatah al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades 23

Haifa bus 37 suicide bombing March 5, 2003 Carmel section, Haifa Hamas 17

Jerusalem bus 14a massacre June 11, 2003 Downtown Jerusalem Hamas 17

Shmuel HaNavi bus bombing August 19, 2003 Shmuel HaNavi, Jerusalem Hamas 23

Tzrifin attack September 9, 2003 Tzrifin Hamas 8

Café Hillel bombing September 9, 2003 Jerusalem Hamas 7

Maxim restaurant suicide bombing October 4, 2003 Haifa Islamic Jihad 21

Jerusalem bus 19 suicide bombing January 29, 2004 Rehavia, Jerusalem Fatah al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades 11

Ashdod Port massacre March 14, 2004 Port of Ashdod Hamas and Fatah al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades 10

Murder of Tali Hatuel and her four daughters May 2, 2004 Gaza strip Islamic Jihad gunmen 5

Be'er Sheva attack August 31, 2004 Rager Boulevard, Beersheba Hamas 16

Qassam rocket attack. Victim Alaya Abukasis 15 January 2005 critically wounded Sderot Hamas 1   21 January 2005 died      

The Shefa-'Amr massacre 38568 Shefa-'Amr Eden Natan-Zada 4

Tel-Aviv central bus station massacres April 17, 2006 Tel Aviv Islamic Jihad and al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades 11

 Eilat suicide bombing January 29, 2007 Eilat Islamic Jihad and al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades 3

Dimona suicide bombing February 4, 2008 Dimona   1

Mercaz HaRav massacre March 6, 2008 Kiryat Moshe, Jerusalem   8      

Total Civilans Murdered by those lovely Palestinian friends 420

Related Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Israeli_civilian_casualties_in_the_Second_Intifada
author by yeah yeah yeahpublication date Tue Aug 23, 2011 19:40author address author phone Report this post to the editors

It's terrible that any civilians should be killed, unlike you I have no problem saying that. I also note that when it comes to murdering civilians, your beloved friends, the Zio-Nazis, have a far worse record in that regard. If murdering civilians makes the Hamas etc into pariahs, then the Zio-Nazi Israeli state is even worse

You deliberately chose to ignore that Wikipedia also states that of the 4,281 Palestinians killed by Israeli forces or civilians since the beginning of the Second Intifada, almost 50%, 2,038, were civilians according to B'Tselem.

But all Zio-Nazi related subjects at Wiki are heavily policed by dishonest Zio-freaks like yourself and more correct figures can be found at http://www.ifamericansknew.org/

it states:

That 6 times more Palestinians have been killed than Israelis.

1,084 Israelis and at least 6,430 Palestinians have been killed since September 29, 2000.

9,226 Israelis and 45,041 Palestinians have been injured since September 29, 2000.

1 Israeli is being held prisoner by Palestinians, while 5,935 Palestinians are currently imprisoned by Israel

Israel currently has 236 Jewish-only settlements and ‘outposts’ built on confiscated Palestinian land. Palestinians do not have any settlements on Israeli land.

A very very high percentage of the Palestinian civilians murdered in Zionist terror attacks are teenagers and Children. Quite a large percentage are also women - all would qualify as 'innocent' in the head of any sane person. . . . but in the head of Jnr they are just filthy Arabs, fit only for extermination

124 Israeli children have been killed by Palestinians and 1,463 Palestinian children have been killed by Zio-Nazis since September 29, 2000.

So, the Zio-Nazis have murdered nearly 12 times more innocent children than have the Islamists and the PLO combined.

but in the head of Jnr/'Thats amazing' , they are just filthy Arabs, not worthy of mention, fit only for incarceration or extermination

author by Rosenbudpublication date Tue Aug 23, 2011 22:05author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Obviously they managed to tear them selves away from the Palestinian Children they were in the process of sexually-assaulting, raping, torturing and murdering -=

Israel strikes in Gaza despite cease-fire - http://www.palestine-info.co.uk/en/default.aspx?xyz=U6Q...PY%3d

[ 23/08/2011 - 10:46 AM ]

GAZA, (PIC)-- [Zio-Nazis] warplanes carried out an air strike in central Gaza city Tuesday morning a day after Israel and the government in Gaza agreed to a cease-fire.

In the attack, a single missile was fired at vacant land near a gas station in the city’s Daraj district.

Although no injuries were reported, the impact smashed windows of nearby homes, and a state of fear prevailed among locals preparing for the next day’s fast.

It was the first rocket [the Zio-Nazis] launched after a truce was declared Monday afternoon.

Meanwhile, in a statement, Deputy Speaker of the Palestinian Legislative Council Ahmed Bahar called on Palestinian factions to maintain national consensus, preserve the calm, and not to allow [the Zio-Nazis] to drag the Palestinians into an escalation.

author by Zionism = Nazismpublication date Wed Aug 24, 2011 18:10author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Another Israeli False Flag? - http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/08/23/another-israeli...flag/

Mossad and Shin Bet (Israel’s Security Agency) have long, odious histories of committing them. More on that below.

At issue now is whether the August 18 bus and other attacks inside Israel were committed by external elements or Israel, and if so, why?

Also at issue always is cui bono? In fact, Hamas and various Palestinian resistance groups have nothing to gain. Clearly Israel benefits greatly at least two ways:

(1) The upcoming September UN General Assembly vote on Palestinian self-determination Israel very much wants to derail.

(2) Weeks of nationwide internal social justice protests Netanyahu also wants to diffuse and end.

Both are compelling reasons for employing tried and true tactics – change the subject by diverting public attention.

In this case, scaring people enough to put safety above pocket book issues, as well as getting UN member states perhaps to rethink the wisdom of supporting Palestinian sovereignty at this time, with Israel allegedly under attack.

Whether it works will be known when the UN General Assembly meets in September. What’s clear is that last March, Israel informed all Security Council members and prominent EU countries that if Palestinian self-determination efforts within 1967 borders persisted, unilateral Israeli steps would follow, implying harsh ones.

In addition, diffusing social justice protests temporarily worked based on an August 18 Reuters report, saying:

Campaigners “called off planned weekend demonstrations against the high cost of living after a series of terror attacks in the south left seven people dead.”

author by Zionism = Nazismpublication date Wed Aug 24, 2011 18:17author address author phone Report this post to the editors


During the period August 18-20, 2011 Israeli forces killed 14 Palestinians including at least one other child, a 13-year-old, and injured at least 50, nine of them children. Gazan resistance forces killed one Israeli and injured about 20 . Gazan hospitals, hard hit by the years-long Israeli siege, report that they have run out of 150 medicines and 160 types of medical equipment z9http://www.israel-palestinenews.org/2011/08/gaza-out-of....html ).

The Israeli assaults were allegedly triggered by attacks on Thursday, August 18th, by unknown gunmen on the Egyptian border with Israel that killed eight Israelis. Israeli forces killed the attackers in Eilat, also shooting dead, according to the BBC, five Egyptian policemen. The Israeli Defense Minister told Egypt afterwards that “Israel regrets the deaths.”

There is no evidence connecting Gazan resistance groups to the attack, and they have denied responsibility for it. Hamas itself had maintained a unilateral de facto ceasefire since 2009(some independent resistance groups, however, refused to take part in this truce and continued to launch rockets in response to Israeli actions). Groups in Egypt have periodically taken actions opposing Israel. Egyptian authorities say they have identified three of the attackers, who appear to have been based in the Sinai, there are reports that Israeli intelligence warned of the attack ahead of time, and there is mounting information suggesting that the attackers may have been Egyptian, not Gazan.

While many reports describe the Israeli actions as retaliatory, Israeli attacks on Gaza occur regularly and were already ongoing before the Eilat attack. Two days earlier, on Tuesday, an Israeli air strike killed a 29-year-old Palestinian man in the morning, and Israeli ground soldiers killed a disabled teenager later in the day. The youth was shot more than 10 times, mostly in the head. On Wednesday night there were more Israeli air attacks throughout Gaza. (The LA Times called this a period of “relative calm.”) Some analysts suggest that the recent Israeli escalation against Gaza may have been prompted, at least in part, by a Netanyahu desire to deflect energy from the massive social protests that have been enveloping Israel recently.

The death toll among Gazans and Israelis has been notably disproportionate. In Israel’s Dec-Jan 2008-09 “Cast Lead” assault, Israeli forces killed approximately 1,387 Gazans , while resistance forces killed nine Israelis. In the preceding year Israeli forces killed 713 Gazans; Gazan resistance fighters killed eight Israelis. Since “Cast Lead” through the end of July of this year, Israeli forces killed approximately 200 Gazans; Palestinian resistance groups killed approximately five Israelis.

Israel partisan and author David Rodman reports that Israeli drones “played a substantial part” in Israel’s 1982 Lebanon war (in which Israeli forces killed at least 17,825 Lebanese, compared to 344 Israelis killed by the Lebanese resistance) and that their use in what he acknowledges in profound understatement were “asymmetric conflicts” – the 2006 Second Lebanon war (Israeli forces killed at least 1,125 Lebanese , almost all civilians, a third of them children; Lebanese resistance forces killed 164 Israelis, about three-quarters of them soldiers and the 2008–2009 Cast Lead operation – “sparked renewed global interest in Israeli drone operations.”

author by Rosenbudpublication date Thu Aug 25, 2011 14:51author address author phone Report this post to the editors

6 killed in fresh Israeli attacks on Gaza - http://www.paltelegraph.com/palestine/gaza-strip/9941-6....html

as usual it's ALWAYS the Zio-Nazis who break any agreed ceasefire - their lust for the fresh blood of innocents is insatiable

author by Rosenbudpublication date Thu Aug 25, 2011 15:49author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Max Blumenthal interviewed about Israel's latest killing genocidal series on Gaza using some dubious or more possibly a false flag as an excuse.

Max points out that Israel deliberately blurs the line between Military and civilians by declaring it's own military to be 'a civilian army'. This, in their twisted minds, allows them to justify attacking innocent civilians in Gaza, Lebanon etc.

Caption: Israel deliberately blurs the line between Military and civilians

author by Zionism = Nazismpublication date Fri Aug 26, 2011 13:24author address author phone Report this post to the editors


GAZA CITY — A truce announced by Gaza militants appeared to be fast unravelling on Thursday after 11 Gazans were killed and 30 wounded in several Israeli air strikes over 24 hours

It appears that the Zio-Nazi idea of correct behaviour during a ceasefire is to just continue murdering Palestinians.

They have murdered 11 Palestinians since the so-called ceasefire was announced.

A 'ceasefire' for the Zio-Nazis appears to mean that the Palestinians stop firing back, while the Zio-Nazis keep murdering as many as they like - the media seems to also agree with this definition - when the Palestinian side finally retaliates, the media and the Zio-Nazis, and Zio=psychpaths like Jnr, will start crowing that 'Hamas broke the ceasefire'.

author by Rosenbudpublication date Fri Aug 26, 2011 14:00author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Zio-Nazi and their supporters like to bleat on endlessly about Hamas and rockets and such like, but the truth is that even if Hamas never existed the Zio-Nazis would still murder Palestinian regardless

The truth of this statement can easily be found by examining and comparing the casualty lists from Gaza and the West Bank. In the west Bank Hamas are not in power, instead an Israeli-puppet gov't, called the 'Palestinian Authority' rules.

Few if any rocket-attack emanate from the West-Bank

B'Tselem, the Israeli Information Center for Human Rights in the Occupied Palestinian Territories, maintains an excellent, comprehensive database of Palestinian and Israeli casualties of bombings, attacks and other violence in the Palestinian-Israeli conflict.

As can easily be seen from the data, it is the Israelis who are responsible for the vast majority of the violence - it's almost as if they are pathologically incapable of behaving peacefully.

a quick look at their database of casualties produced the following figures:

Between Jan 2009 and August 2010:

Palestinian children killed by Israeli security forces :

--- Gaza- ------------------- W Bank - where there is NO HAMAS, NO ROCKETS etc
--- | 8 | ------------------- | 7 |

Total - 15

Palestinians killed during the course of an assassination killing: Gaza- 2

Completely innocent Palestinians who did not take part in the hostilities and were killed by Israeli security forces (not including the targets of assassination killings):

--- Gaza ------------------- W Bank - where there is NO HAMAS, NO ROCKETS etc
---- | 16 | ------------------- | 12 |

Total - 28

Palestinians who were killed by Israeli security forces and it is not known if they were taking part in the hostilities [the majority are probably completely innocent but we have no way of knowing one-way-or-the-other because thew Zio-Nazis never provide any proof] :

--- Gaza ------------------- W Bank - where there is NO HAMAS, NO ROCKETS etc
--- | 5 | ------------------- | 7 |

Total - 12

Totals :

--- Gaza- ------------------- W Bank - where there is NO HAMAS, NO ROCKETS etc
--- | 31 | -------------------- | 26 |

TOTAL - 57

Between Jan 19 2009 & Aug 31 2010:
Israeli civilians killed by Palestinians- 3

Zio-Nazi security force personnel killed by Palestinians- 4

Compare with [same Timeframe]:
Palestinians killed by Zio-Nazi security forces - 78
Palestinians killed by Israeli civilians - 2

All figures sourced from : http://www.btselem.org/english/Statistics/Casualties.asp

SO without the excuse of 'Hamas' or 'Rockets' the Zio-Nazis managed to murder almost as many Palestinians in the West Bank as it murdered in Gaza, in the same time-frame

So it's pretty obvious that the Zio-Nazis will murder Palestinians whenever and wherever they feel like it, and it matters not one bit whether those Palestinians live in areas controlled by Hamas.

author by Zionism = Nazismpublication date Fri Aug 26, 2011 15:22author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Still no evidence for PRC [or Hamas] involvement in attacks - http://972mag.com/still-no-evidence-of-prc-involvement-...date/

A week passed since the Eilat attack, and the IDF has yet to prove the blame of the group Israel chose to attack in response.

Doubts emerge over identity of terrorists who carried out attack in Israel's south - http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/doubts-emerge...80525
By Amira Hass
Gazans doubt responsibility of Popular Resistance Committees and their military wing; Egypt newspaper identifies three of attack planners as Egyptians.

[Note how Haaretz tries to pretend that it is only 'Gazans' that doubt the attackers came from Gaza - the fact is that the Zio-Nazis have offered no evidence whatsoever that implicates anyone from Gaza - the only evidence available comes from the Egyptians, and directly points to 'Islamist' elements native to the Sinai (possibly Al Qeada, and therefore essentially US/UK/Israel-backed pseudo-Muslim merceniaries) ]

author by Zionism=Nazismpublication date Sat Aug 27, 2011 17:12author address author phone Report this post to the editors


A week of Israeli attacks on Gazan civilians have filled the Al Shifa Hospital critical care unit with children and young people. They all have previously unencountered deep tissue injuries from "unusual weapons" - which says a lot, given the horrific injuries these same doctors dealt with during Operation Cast Lead nearly three years ago. It seems Israeli has now surpassed its previous levels of inhuman and illegal weaponry.

In the last six days, Gaza has been under sustained Israeli attack. Despite an informal ceasefire being declared on Monday, Israel killed a Gazan man on Wednesday morning, resulting in retaliatory rocket attacks. In the following 36 hours, another 10 Gazans were killed, and 30 injured in Israeli strikes at a public event at a sports club, a group of civilians in the street, the Rafah tunnels, and other locations. No Israelis were killed by any rockets from Gaza.

Victims of israel's recent attacks on Gaza are arriving at Al Shifa Hospital with extensive burns, severe deep tissue injuries, and severed limbs and extremeties - mutilation injuries unlike any the medical staff encountered even duirng Operation Cast Lead.

What is this new weapon? What is the international community going to do about its use on innocent civilians, especially innocent children - the majority of the victims to date.

See related link for rest of story and additional video links.

Caption: Gaza: Critical Care Unit Al Shifa Hospital dealing with horrific new injuries

Caption: Gaza: New weapons being used - what are they?

Related Link: http://uruknet.com/?p=m80837&hd=&size=1&l=e
author by wageslave (personal capacity)publication date Sun Aug 28, 2011 05:53author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Thread is about "war on terror"
war on terror is more than just Israel / hamas.

It would be good if commenters diversified the discussion and tried to stay at least somewhat on topic here.

What about the whole al-qaeda thing for instance?
Maybe the patriot act and civil liberties?
Lucrative no bid contracts?
Oil companies and haliburton?
Arms sales?
US military industrial complex?
Abu ghraib and guantanamo?

A lot of other material there I think!


author by FAKE AL QEADApublication date Sun Aug 28, 2011 13:39author address author phone Report this post to the editors

This moronic 'War on Terror' is a direct result of the hijacking of US Foreign Policy by a rabid 'Israel-First' group of Zionist Neo-Cons.

They have surnames such as Kristol, Pearle, Wurmser, Wolfowitz, Pipes, Frumm. etc. Many many people get very hysterical when one points this out though, as we will no doubt find-out after this post is published

All evidence points towards these Zio-Cons as engineering this whole 'clash of civilisations' nonsense. The very phrase 'Clash of Civilisations' was invented by British Zionist Racist Prof Bernard Lewis. It was then used by another Neo-Con tool, Samuel Huntington, who expanded on this false-narrative in a book he wrote in 1996 called, appropriately enough: The Clash of Civilizations and the Remaking of World Order

Essentially, IMHO and that of many others, Lewis and Huntington, rather than merely identifying this so-called 'Clash of Civilisations', were actually themselves attempting to engineer A clash of civilisations. They decided to label Islam as a uniquely violent religion, more so than Christianity and Judaism. and then attempted to claim that such a thing as 'Islamic Civilisation' exists. This is nonsense - there are many varied forms of Islam practiced through the world, some more extreme than others, just as there are many different types of Christianity and Judaism - some more extreme than others.

You can read more about it here: Hijacking the word 'Islam' for Mantra Creation - http://faith-humanbeingsfirst.blogspot.com/2011/08/hija....html

Essentially these Zionist racist Neo-Cons have tried to plant withing the consciousness of the Western public an image of Islam that is identical to that practiced in Saudi-Arabia, where a despotic Family have been maintained in power by the US Gov't and Oil Co's. As if all of the many varied peoples and cultures where Islam is practised can be reduced to Saudi Arabia. It would be like judging ALL of Christianity, every separate group of people that profess to be Christian, by claiming that they are represented by the the pedophiles that hid themselves within the Roman Catholic Church, or like Judging ALL of Judaism by the actions of one Baruch Goldstein, a Zio-loon that massacred Muslims in Hebron.

They have done this through the use of proxies such as the ridiculously over-hyped 'Al Qeada'. Al Q is nothing but a bunch of Pseudo-Muslim Mercenaries, used as a tool of US/UK/Israeli Security Services.

One time Foreign Secretary of Great Britain, , The Right Honuourable Mr Robin Cook, admitted as much when he wrote - http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2005/jul/08/july7.development - exactly one month before he died:

Al-Qaida, literally “the database”, was originally the computer file of the thousands of mujahideen who were recruited and trained with help from the CIA to defeat the Russians.

Whenever the US/UK/Israeli Security Services want to fuck with some country they send in the dreaded Al Q. Lybia is a perfect example of this - the so-called 'Rebels' there admitted that they were Al Q many moons ago.

One thing all these 'Clash of Civilisations' junkies have in common is their 'Love of Israel' - many, if not most, of their leading lights are Jewish, many have dual-US-Israeli citizenship. As I said earlier, Many many people get very hysterical when one points this out, as we will no doubt find-out after this post is published

So it becomes plain to see that over time these Israel-Junkies have taken over US foreign policy.

So a discussion of 'The War on Terror' that focuses on Israel is quite apt, given that most of those pushing the War on Terror are Israel-Junkies.

Over the last decade we have seen what many refer to as the 'Zionification' of US society. Israeli security firms serve at many US airports - in fact one very very curious fact rarely mentioned is that all of the Airplane bombing attempts we have heard so much about (eg: Underpants bomber, Shoe Bomber, the Moscow Airport bombing, even 9-11 bombers) in recent years, the flights in question originated at Airports where security was controlled by an Israeli company, ICTS

10 years ago if I told people that in order to take an internal flight within the US one would have to submit themselves to what essentially amounts to sexual-assault, no one would have believed me. And yet here we are, people lining up to have their genitalia fondled.

So focusing on Israel is not a bad idea at all, if you want to learn more about this ridiculous 'War on Terror'

Caption: Fake Al Qeada

author by Zionism=Nazismpublication date Sun Aug 28, 2011 15:23author address author phone Report this post to the editors

This photograph is of unnamed boy who lost his hands and was badly burned in a [ Zio-Nazi Terror attack] while playing football about a week ago - http://mondoweiss.net/2011/08/gaza-strikes-kill-two-you....html

Palestinian Boy with Hands cut-off after Zio-Nazi Terror-attack
Palestinian Boy with Hands cut-off after Zio-Nazi Terror-attack

author by Chicago Bullpublication date Sun Aug 28, 2011 16:24author address author phone Report this post to the editors

A CIA drone took out Ossies No 2, Islamic terrorist Atiyah Abd Al Rahman in Pakistan yesterday. Good to see that the War on Terror IS still working. Enemies of world peace should have no place to hide!

Related Link: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/28/world/asia/28qaeda.html
author by TotalBullpublication date Sun Aug 28, 2011 21:20author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Ok, I guess the next target of US drones will be the Al Qaeda asset that is head of the rebel council in Libya?

But no, I suppose thats different isn't it mr chicago bull(shitter)? He's our friend helping us steal the oil from the libyan people.

Its a very dirty world we are living in. And people like you don't help throw any light on matters

author by Zionism=Nazismpublication date Mon Aug 29, 2011 18:34author address author phone Report this post to the editors

New Report Identifies Organizational Nexus of Islamophobia - http://news.antiwar.com/2011/08/26/nato-kills-six-civil...rike/
by Jim Lobe, August 27, 2011

A small group of inter-connected foundations, think tanks, pundits, and bloggers is behind the 10-year-old campaign to promote fear of Islam and Muslims in the U.S., according to a major investigative report released here Friday by the Center for American Progress (CAP).

The 130-page report, "Fear, Inc.: The Roots of the Islamophobia Network in America," identifies seven foundations that have quietly provided a total of more than 42 million dollars to key individuals and organizations that have spearheaded the nationwide effort between 2001 and 2009.

They include funders that have long been associated with the extreme right in the U.S., as well as several Jewish family foundations that have supported right-wing and settler groups in Israel.

The network also includes what the report calls "misinformation experts" – including Frank Gaffney of the Center for Security Policy (CSP), Daniel Pipes of the Philadelphia-based Middle East Forum (MEF), Steven Emerson of the Investigative Project on Terrorism, David Yerushalmi of the Society of Americans for National Existence, and Robert Spencer of Stop Islamization of America (SIOA) – who are often tapped by television news networks and right-wing radio talk shows to comment on Islam and the threat it allegedly poses to U.S. national security.

"Together, this core group of deeply intertwined individuals and organizations manufacture and exaggerate threats of ‘creeping Sharia’, Islamic domination of the West, and purported obligatory calls to violence against all non-Muslims by the Quran," according to the report whose main author, Wajahat Ali, described the group as "the central nervous system of the Islamophobia network."

"This small band of radical ideologues has fought to define Sharia as a ‘totalitarian ideology’ and legal-political-military doctrine committed to destroying Western civilization," the report said. "But a scholar of Islam and Muslim tradition would not recognize their definition of Sharia, let alone a lay practicing Muslim."

Nonetheless, the group’s messages receive wide dissemination by what the report calls an "Islamophobia echo chamber" consisting of leaders of the Christian Right, such as Franklin Graham and Pat Robertson, and some Republican politicians, such as presidential candidates Representative Michele Bachmann and former Speaker of the House of Representatives Newt Gingrich.

............. The Cherniks also supported the far-right Zionist Organization of America (ZOA) and Aish Hatorah, a far-right Israeli group behind the U.S.-based Clarion Fund, which produced the video, Obsession: Radical Islam’s War Against the West that was, in turn, heavily promoted by the Islamophobic groups featured in the report. Breivik praised it in his manifesto.


Important study shows that a small network is fostering widespread hatred of Islam inside US politics and public opinion - http://mondoweiss.net/2011/08/important-study-shows-tha....html

The report is careful to sidestep the Israel-motivation angle of the Islamophobes. I think this is intellectually irresponsible, but inevitable. No one in the Establishment wants to touch this angle. They don't want to be sounding like Walt and Mearsheimer, the Israel lobby. And of course, it's good that a portion of the Establishment is denouncing the ultra-Zionists. But supporting Israel is certainly an important part of the motivation, as I pointed out about Yerushalmi a few weeks back-- the Jewish right to Palestine is at the heart of his engagement, he even changed his name to Jerusalem. And donor Aubrey Chernick, whom the report focuses on -- well, again, Israel support is at the heart of his public actions.

author by Rosenbudpublication date Mon Aug 29, 2011 18:38author address author phone Report this post to the editors


The attack, which took place shortly after midnight, came after a clash between NATO troops on the ground and Taliban in the Baraki Barak District, and left six civilians dead.

The latest attack came after a firefight with Taliban, but was termed a “retaliation” attack by a spokesman for the provincial administration.

That the attack retaliated against a civilian home and killed an entire family appears to them only a minor detail.

author by Rosenbudpublication date Wed Aug 31, 2011 04:19author address author phone Report this post to the editors

The US State Dept seems unusually worried about the privacy of a pseudo-Muslim Cleric who is suppossedly an active Al Qeada supporter - http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/08/26/state-depart...60Adg

While the New Mexico-born cleric, Anwar al-Awlaki, is the first American on the CIA's kill or capture list, the U.S. State Department refuses to release documents about al-Awlaki citing his right to privacy. This disconnect was uncovered as part of the ongoing investigation by Fox News' Specials Unit into the cleric who is a leader of a major Al Qaeda affiliate.

This is rather surprising given the massive breaches of the publics right to privacy the US Gov't has engaged in over the last few years.

Some are suggesting that thew US Gov't is protesting a little too much about this guys rights, given that they have shown little regard for privacy rights recently

This basically tells us that Anwar al-Awlaki is another phony Al Qaeda, to be used to trick Americans into unending wars of conquest. Hillary Clinotn's State Department is protecting his manufactured media image under the ludicrous claim that a government that has abandoned virtually every human and constitutional right still wants to respect a "terrorist's" right to privacy.

This story confirms that Anwar al-Awlaki is most likely another fake Al Qaeda used by the Zionists in the US Government to scare people into supporting the moronis and imperialist 'War on Terror'

Anwar al-Awlaki is (we are assured by ABCNNBBCBS) on the CIA's "capture or kill" list, yet strangely enough was INVITED to dinner at the Pentagon just months after 9-11, and even more strangely, HE ACCEPTED!

Anwar al-Awlaki has been invited to attend Capital prayer services during both the Bush and Obama administrations (even during the time we were all told he was hiding in Yemen) AND HE WENT!

Nidal Malik Hasan, a U.S. Army major serving as a psychiatrist, was accused of being the soldier that shot and killed 13 people and wounded 29 others in Fort Hood, a US military base in Killen Texas. When Major Hasan requested a key intelligence report to use in his defense, the Obama administration blocked it claiming it contained information about Anwar al-Awlaki that could not be allowed to be made public!

Do you get it, now?

Anwar al-Awlaki is another fake, like Jewish kid Adam Gadahn, who appears dressed in Arab clothing on countless Al Qeada videos acting as a Muslim terrorist bogeyman.

Or like Youssef Al-Khattab, another Jewish man, who used to called Joseph Cohen, who claims now to be Muslim. Al Khattab is the one that ran the website where threats were supposedly made against the creators of South Park.

Anwar al-Awlaki is the current winner of the "Who wants to be the next Osama" reality TV show.

author by Serfpublication date Wed Aug 31, 2011 08:36author address author phone Report this post to the editors

"The US State Dept seems unusually worried about the privacy of a pseudo-Muslim Cleric "

Nice to see the US so concerned with privacy. I guess they will be moving to reverse the patriot act very soon at this rate.
And I Guess they won't be needing all our european personal data either. And I guess ECHELON will be closing all its operations soon too. Thats great news. (yeah right) What a bunch of cynical sociopathic hypocrites

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