OscailtWhy Have We Allowed The Pope And The Curia Subvert Our Constitution The Curia has protected the Pope with a venal beguile The defence of their errant priests and bishops is to launch an attack of a tripartite nature ; the church as victim; the blame lies with the victims; the problem was one of incipient homosexuality . The three factors were advanced separately over the past 10 days by the pope and 2 different theologians . Not just ordinary Curia sycophants , but doctrinaire heavy hitters.
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"Priest says he was pressurised into taking blame for pope"<br />
moral evasionhttp://www.indymedia.ie/article/96386#comment2673872010-04-19T02:21:51+00:00petty gossiperHere is the link to the Fintan O'Toole article briefly mentioned in main article...Here is the link to the Fintan O'Toole article briefly mentioned in main article-<br />
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'The truth is that child abuse and cover-up are not primarily about religion or sex. They are about power'Grubby.http://www.indymedia.ie/article/96386#comment2673982010-04-19T11:33:38+00:00Agnostic.Intersting how religious people try to excuse grubby behaviour.
Their philosoph...Intersting how religious people try to excuse grubby behaviour.<br />
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Their philosophy is completely bankrupt.<br />
obediance .. the paper trail.. the Nuremberg trialshttp://www.indymedia.ie/article/96386#comment2674092010-04-19T15:26:16+00:00donkylemorePatsy Mc Garry et al write
''Cardinal Hoyos wrote to French bishop Pierre Pican...Patsy Mc Garry et al write <br />
''Cardinal Hoyos wrote to French bishop Pierre Pican to congratulate him for not reporting an abuser priest. Earlier that year, Bishop Pican received a suspended three-month sentence for not reporting serial abuser Fr René Bissy, who was eventually given an 18-year prison sentence for child sex abuse crimes between 1989 and 1996.''<br />
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''Speaking in Murcia on Saturday, Cardinal Hoyos confirmed the text of the letter, adding also that Pope John Paul had seen it and “authorised me to send it to all the bishops”<br />
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Again one wonders . What paralyzed the State from following the paper trail and prosecuting Cardinal Hoyos in the first instance for complicity if the Cardinal was guilty of a second offense, if in fact there e was a second offence .<br />
This would be the one for which he was being congratulated for being discrete about . As I read it as he seems to have received the congratulatory letter from Cardinal Hoyos later than the time Bishop Pican received his suspended sentence .The reportage makes for turgid reading at this point and I may well be misconstruing it .<br />
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In the second case it would appear that Pope JP 2 demanded that all sex offence cases be referred to Ratzinger when Raatzinger was head of CDF.<br />
in which circumstances Ratzinger - Benedict - has known and harbored evidence about sex crimes since 2002. Again there must be a paper trail .<br />
Again the defence of '' I was just acting on orders'' will be probably be proferred .<br />
This defence did stand up in the Nuremberg Trials . <br />
Thank you for addressing my attention to the article . I didnt but the Irish times today. There's so little news in in on Mondays.<br />
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Strangely , the exhausted pope became ill at a mass in Malta yesterday- later promised to do all in his power to bring the guilty to .<br />
justice , after speaking with victims.. and later '' he cried ''<br />
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This man who has all the information to send several battalions of priest to jail '''cried and promised to do all in his power to bring the guilty to justice '',<br />
Who is he kidding . ?? He who it is further was associated with another cover up in Bavaria.. <br />
He should be treated like all the others. <br />
This profligate mendacity has to stop.<br />
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By a strange coincidence Cardinal Brady too became ill with a '' blood pressure condition '' a few days ago.<br />
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Is this to be a new strategy ?? ''- feel my pain ; ''put your fingers in my wounds- like Doubting Thomas ''<br />
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Now we are officially asked to listen with sympathy to the abusershttp://www.indymedia.ie/article/96386#comment2674172010-04-19T21:48:42+00:00donkylemore
Listen with compassion to abusers, urges top churchman ; Irish Independent 19 A...<br />
Listen with compassion to abusers, urges top churchman ; Irish Independent 19 April 2010<br />
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''AN English priest has called on Ireland's religious orders "to confront the unthinkable" by listening compassionately to the stories of paedophile clerics, writes John Cooney.<br />
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Fr Timothy Radcliffe, the former Master General of the worldwide Dominican Order, told the religious orders yesterday that they had opened their ears to conversation with victims of clerical abuse.<br />
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"And we must dare to hear the abusers, too," Fr Radcliffe said, to the audible gasp of priests, brothers and nuns at the CORI conference.''<br />
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The bishop of Galway , Martin Drennan recently tried to organise a '' pray -in '' at Galway Cathedral for paedophiles . It started as an event involving priests and laity from the Galway Bishop's see. Then as the subliminal anger began to become strained to breaking the event was scaled down to a parochial one .<br />
This was more than a little too rich from one of the bishops expected to resign ,<br />
When this was suggested to bishop Drennan of Galway that he should resign he shunned any consideration utterly . He held out with an obscene obduracy . <br />
He had toiled in the mediocriity of PP living and now that the palatial rewards were his , he was not going to forsake his reward of a new luxury on account of some obscure allegations involving some insignificant children who are now plainly causing nuisance to princes of the church - such as he Drennan . Some Prince .<br />
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.When a local radio station conducted a vox-pop as th whether he should vacate the palace , 80 % said he should - step down.<br />
In the face of this the bishop kept referring to all the support he was getting and that if the people wanted him to step down he would know , and he would do so.<br />
I suppose he was a little like Louis 1VX who said when he wanted to determine what the French people thought - he would look into his heart - and know!<br />
Didnt Dev have a similar gift ?The Catholic Church Wrote It.http://www.indymedia.ie/article/96386#comment2674902010-04-21T14:38:15+00:00Atheist.The Pope and The Curia WROTE the Irish constitution.
The preamble to the consti...The Pope and The Curia WROTE the Irish constitution.<br />
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The preamble to the constitution begins :<br />
"In the Name of the Most Holy Trinity...blah blah.<br />
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Archbishop McQuaid practically wrote. it.<br />
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A catholic country for a catholic people, after all.<br />
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See:<br />
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<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Charles_McQuaid#.22Co-maker_of_the_Constitution.22_1937" title="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Charles_McQuaid#.22Co-maker_of_the_Constitution.22_1937">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Charles_McQuaid#.22Co..._1937</a><br />
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Ayatollah Khamenei would have recognised a kindred spirit in the late Archbishop John Charles McQuaid, the man who virtually ghost-wrote de Valera’s 1937 Constitution.<br />