OscailtIAWM Easter Statement1916: We serve neither King nor Kaiser
2006: We serve neither Bush nor Blair
US Military out of Shannon
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on Sunday at 3pm.<br />
We urge all interested to attend,all groups and individuals.<br />
Details here-<br />
<a href="http://www.indymedia.ie/article/75211" title="http://www.indymedia.ie/article/75211">http://www.indymedia.ie/article/75211</a><br />
All in!Typicalhttp://www.indymedia.ie/article/75382#comment1455442006-04-11T15:43:28+00:00BadmanThe baldonnel action is not included in the IAWM statement on their site or in t...The baldonnel action is not included in the IAWM statement on their site or in their email newsletter - adding it in as a comment here (where it's already well known about) looks a teensie wee bit like a pretence at not being sectarian. <br />
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"If we don't control it, it ain't happening"Unfortunatehttp://www.indymedia.ie/article/75382#comment1455452006-04-11T15:54:26+00:00pat cto say the least. Why have the IAWM (officially) decided to ignore the Baldonnel...to say the least. Why have the IAWM (officially) decided to ignore the Baldonnell action?<br />
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No need to be sectarian back though. The Saturday IAWM event should be supported. Its a truly Anti Imperialist slogan to link the 1916 Rising with Iraq. Brits out of Iraq and Brits out of Ireland!Tinsy wee bit non sectarianhttp://www.indymedia.ie/article/75382#comment1455462006-04-11T15:57:38+00:00MichaelYHey badman,
One step at a time sweet....better than not mentioning Baldonnel at...Hey badman,<br />
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One step at a time sweet....better than not mentioning Baldonnel at all. What did you think of the statement itself?<br />
Good luck in Baldonnel btw...may you have a good march and lots of publicity.<br />
See you on the 22nd when we attempt to gather and co-ordinate our forces.What about the North-East?http://www.indymedia.ie/article/75382#comment1455482006-04-11T16:12:24+00:00Ciarán Ó BrolcháinI have to admit I'm surprised that a statement on the 1916 Rising and the "blow ...I have to admit I'm surprised that a statement on the 1916 Rising and the "blow for Ireland’s independence and for an end of the oppression and occupation of Ireland by the British Empire" would fail to mention the British/US use of airports in the occupied six counties for rendition flights.<br />
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See the below link for a BBC story on this...mickhttp://www.indymedia.ie/article/75382#comment1455522006-04-11T16:33:58+00:00badman.better than not mentioning Baldonnel at all.
The point is Mick, that it doesn't...<em>.better than not mentioning Baldonnel at all.</em><br />
The point is Mick, that it doesn't mention it at all. A comment mentions it. The statement circulated by the IAWM doesn't mention it. The reason being that the SWP/IAWM are so sectarian that they can't even bring themselves to mention events that they don't control. <br />
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Your 'everybody else is sectarian' except the SWP one man act is getting a bit tiring. <br />
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<em>What did you think of the statement itself?</em><br />
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Pretty standard SWP rhetoric. The only thing worth remarking upon is the following:<br />
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<em>1916: We serve neither King nor Kaiser, 2006: We serve neither Bush nor Blair. </em><br />
The point being that this juxtaposition is ridiculous. Bush and Blair are on the same side. If they wanted to use the socialist slogan from WW1 the reprise should have been "we serve neither bush nor allah / Bin Laden / somebody on the other side". As it is, they are simply debasing the principled stand of socialists of times past by taking the side of one reactionary ideology against another in this war. Timinghttp://www.indymedia.ie/article/75382#comment1455542006-04-11T16:35:31+00:00Joe At 2pm on Easter Saturday 15th April the Irish Anti War Movement will be
honour...<em> At 2pm on Easter Saturday 15th April the Irish Anti War Movement will be<br />
honouring the anti-imperialist tradition of the rising by unfurling a banner<br />
at the GPO saying:<br />
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1916: We serve neither King nor Kaiser, 2006: We serve neither Bush nor<br />
Blair. US Military out of Shannon</em><br />
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The idea is a good one but the timing is odd.<br />
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The official state parade past the GPO starts at 11.45 , unfurling the banner at some time when this is still on (before 13.00), would make sense<br />
as it will embarrass Berties and may get on the TV.<br />
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Unfurling it at 14.00 is odd as this only clashes with the Baldonnel event ( <a href="http://www.indymedia.ie/article/75211" title="http://www.indymedia.ie/article/75211">http://www.indymedia.ie/article/75211</a> ). Any chance of moving the banner unfurling back a couple of hours so we don't have to choose which of the two anti-war events to go to but can do both? And the banner could go to both.^^http://www.indymedia.ie/article/75382#comment1455682006-04-11T17:43:23+00:00('',)It says Saturday April the 16th. : /It says Saturday April the 16th. : /leaders??http://www.indymedia.ie/article/75382#comment1455992006-04-11T20:36:42+00:00spidertypical rubbish from the swp, the cause of the iraq war is not leadership, as th...typical rubbish from the swp, the cause of the iraq war is not leadership, as they would love to have us believe. the cause is social, an economic system that must constantly expand in order to survive. the problem is capitalism, not george bush.stop this Paddy Harte nowhttp://www.indymedia.ie/article/75382#comment1456052006-04-11T21:02:04+00:00anti war from the firstPaddy Harte is going into the schools to get at the kids ,wants them to help lis...Paddy Harte is going into the schools to get at the kids ,wants them to help listing all the WW1 dead,to show all the "courrage,suffering and sacrifice" that went on. All this is dangerous and must be stoped, also why is Sinn Fein runing with all this,two of their councillors Padaig MacLochlainn and Tony Mc Daid went the Somme ,came back and wants to make a poppy embedded with a shammrock,to become the " common symbol of all the traditions on the island of Irelnad" . Not me, I come form the "NEITHER KING NOR KAISETR" tradition,so no poppy for me.Spoiler?http://www.indymedia.ie/article/75382#comment1456652006-04-12T12:39:18+00:00Good King"Why have an event in the city centre at the SAME TIME as a major anti-war event..."Why have an event in the city centre at the SAME TIME as a major anti-war event at the airport? "<br />
An event on Saturday is supposed to spoil an event on Sunday. Wake up!!!! They are separated by 24 hours<br />
baldonnel on SUNDAY!http://www.indymedia.ie/article/75382#comment1456742006-04-12T14:50:43+00:00wBALDONNEL ACTION IS THE 16th - which is EASTER SUNDAY!!BALDONNEL ACTION IS THE 16th - which is EASTER SUNDAY!!to "anti war from the first"http://www.indymedia.ie/article/75382#comment1456792006-04-12T15:12:14+00:00pat chow about a white peace poppy? it is the symbol of the (anti-imperialist) intern...how about a white peace poppy? it is the symbol of the (anti-imperialist) international peace pledge union. doesnt mean you have to give up the lily, you could wear a white poppy as well and you wouldnt be commemorating british imperialism. two of my great uncles were killed in WWI in france while serving in the british army. i remember them and all who died by wearing the peace poppy.I could go whit thathttp://www.indymedia.ie/article/75382#comment1457312006-04-12T20:01:29+00:00anti war from the firstWhite poppys are o.k.,they are out since the 1920ts,there not about the glory of...White poppys are o.k.,they are out since the 1920ts,there not about the glory of war,we can tell the kids that,but what about Paddy Heart and what he is up too,then there the Sinners,their Belfast Councillor TOM Hartley, is doing a lot of crying about his grandfather who was in the BA,a well, we all have our hang-ups,but the young Sinners, we must save them from the likes of him,what do you think.Baldonnelhttp://www.indymedia.ie/article/75382#comment1457322006-04-12T20:06:59+00:00xI thought that Baldonnel was Saturday. Sunday no good - family time! Oh well.I thought that Baldonnel was Saturday. Sunday no good - family time! Oh well.