OscailtMary Kelly TrialHung Jury, Re-Trial Possible in October
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Oh, and great report Deirdre! Let's hope the outcome in Mary's case is a sign of things to come. I'm sure it is.well done Mary,http://www.indymedia.ie/article/60268#comment392982003-07-04T22:33:54+00:00Íosafwell done everyone.
Solidarity to you all.
There was and is a war on Iraq & th...well done everyone.<br />
Solidarity to you all.<br />
There was and is a war on Iraq & the Iraqi people.<br />
They may no longer have Saddam but most of the institutions he started have survived, the same middle management class of tyranny is extant.<br />
& not much has changed.<br />
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In Ireland. This site and it's affiliates were the first to provide you with key and truthful developments and information on the build-up to that War, the first of this year.<br />
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With all the protestors.<br />
with all the iraqis.An Encouraging Resulthttp://www.indymedia.ie/article/60268#comment392992003-07-04T22:34:01+00:00AnthonyI'd like to congratulate Mary on her non-conviction.
And well done, Deirdre ...I'd like to congratulate Mary on her non-conviction. <br />
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And well done, Deirdre for writing such an excellent report. The account is short and succint yet containing enough detail and depth to convey the most important points. I also like the commentary which has just the appropriate level of wit.<br />
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I was delighted to see such well respected people testify on Mary’s behalf. The emphasis on contextualising the action is very important. It's interesting that the judge thought that the jury should be shielded from the reality of what was (and is) happening in Iraq. His worry about the relevancy of such evidence and fears that the case was becoming too political are curious considering Mary's act was both humanitarian and political.<br />
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I suppose that since the judicial system is just another arm of the state, we can’t expect it to be too concerned with concepts such as conscience and I’m sure that state would prefer that the deaths of others throughout the world remain as abstract and distant concepts.<br />
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Overall, it's encouraging that the citzens of Clare followed their conscience and refused to convict Mary. I'm glad that we have jury trials where defendants have the possibility of getting a fair hearing. I doubt that any magistrate would vindicate such acts of conscience.Encouraging news, indeedhttp://www.indymedia.ie/article/60268#comment393052003-07-04T23:58:46+00:00Deirdre ClancyYeah, it was encouraging news. I should mention that Tim Hourigan's assiduous no...Yeah, it was encouraging news. I should mention that Tim Hourigan's assiduous note-taking and willingness to give facts over the phone (along with details from one or two others present, including Mary herself) was the only reason this report could get written. As someone with strong roots in Clare, I'm really happy about the lack of ability of the jury to convict Mary Kelly of criminal damage. I'm equally confident, though, that a similar level of well-informed conscience exists in Dublin. <br />
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(Oh, and by the way, our action was the result of months of planning and dialoguing, along with longer term experiences which led us individually to it, so the aptly named "load of crap" can retreat back to his/her neanderthal cave now.)Away Drawhttp://www.indymedia.ie/article/60268#comment393062003-07-05T00:18:00+00:00CongratsMaybe not a win, but an away draw against tuff opposition. Up for the replay!Maybe not a win, but an away draw against tuff opposition. Up for the replay!Congrats, Mary and the Juryhttp://www.indymedia.ie/article/60268#comment393092003-07-05T03:10:39+00:00stephen cumminsCongrats to Mary and to the integrity of the jury. There is a sense of the Davi...Congrats to Mary and to the integrity of the jury. There is a sense of the David and Goliath story here! The action of the jury, coupled with the marching feet of 100,000 in Dublin represents a real victory. Lift up your hearts!<br />
Deirdre, thanks for the report. Tim and Conor, thanks for keeping vigil. <br />
Stephen Cummins, Co. CorkIn response to Mr.Seaninhttp://www.indymedia.ie/article/60268#comment393322003-07-05T15:43:12+00:00Aspartamineah swearing, the last crutch of the mentally deficient.
Is being satisfied with...ah swearing, the last crutch of the mentally deficient.<br />
Is being satisfied with ones rather bad lot some sort of a requirement in being a normal Irish citizen? <br />
Kind of like saying to a homeless person<br />
'at least you're not dead you whiney bastard!'<br />
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good day.<br />
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Fabulous article by the way. quite interesting.www.plowsharesactions.orghttp://www.indymedia.ie/article/60268#comment393382003-07-05T18:28:04+00:00Ciaron O'ReillyCongratulations to Mary,the Kilrush jury, legal team, witnesses,& the crew who w...Congratulations to Mary,the Kilrush jury, legal team, witnesses,& the crew who were down there in solidarity the past week.<br />
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In our 23 year history the ploughshares/direct disarmament movement have experienced 3 acquittals ("Seeds of Hope Ploughshares" & "Aldermaston Women Trash Trident " in England "Trident Three Disarmament Action" in Scotland) and 3 hung juries ("Epiphany Plowshares" in U.S. "BAe Ploughshares" & "Bread Not Bombs Ploughshares" in England".<br />
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Check out background on the following site<br />
www.plowsharesactions.orgThe Stalinists running this sitehttp://www.indymedia.ie/article/60268#comment393572003-07-05T22:48:40+00:00Seáinínhave censored my opinion (heartfelt as it was) yet again. Why? A little too cl...have censored my opinion (heartfelt as it was) yet again. Why? A little too close to the truth?<br />
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If I hear one more glib unfounded unreferenced comment like the one 'the so-called Irish justice system' which the amadán above has posted, I'm going to get really mad and shut this site down, and I can.<br />
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I wish you clowns really learnt to appreciate your freedom, like experiencing your friend Uday Hussein's justice.<br />
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You commies just love Dictators, nothing like a 'hard man' to get you hard. You are attracted to those qualities in others which you think are deficient in yourself, like homosexuals.you're not serious are you?http://www.indymedia.ie/article/60268#comment393622003-07-06T00:29:07+00:00davidAnybody would be very insulted at the mental image i have of you.
You're clea...Anybody would be very insulted at the mental image i have of you.<br />
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You're clearly a complete moron who doesn't know what he's talking about. there wasn't even any comment 'the so-called Irish justice system' anywhere on this threadLook at the first commenthttp://www.indymedia.ie/article/60268#comment393662003-07-06T01:57:21+00:00SeáinínThat clown casually refers to '' our 'supposed' justice system''.
This sort o...That clown casually refers to '' our 'supposed' justice system''.<br />
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This sort of lazythinking off the cuff remark is insidious and typical of Marxist/Stalinist tatics.<br />
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The silly woman got off, for Christ's sakes. She'd have been tortured and shot in most countires in the world.<br />
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Idiots all.Support from Australianhttp://www.indymedia.ie/article/60268#comment393702003-07-06T06:43:42+00:00AussieWell done Mary. Lets hope the empire gives up its case now.Well done Mary. Lets hope the empire gives up its case now.We could be a lot worse off, but we could be a lot better..http://www.indymedia.ie/article/60268#comment393722003-07-06T13:07:32+00:00David RynneI'm not stalinist or Marxist nor do i belong to any political party
When i s...I'm not stalinist or Marxist nor do i belong to any political party <br />
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When i said "supposed justice system" it was because a government department of "justice" is the same as a government department of information. it is propaganda.<br />
That some government appointed judges could be capable of dispensing accurately and consistantly "justice" (one of the most difficult of all philosophical issues) is ludricous.<br />
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It is a department of law enforcement and nothing more. That the judge would instruct the jurors to ignore their conscience and disallow very relevant evidence because it would have politicised a trial (that was passing judgement on an action intended to be highly political) only goes to prove my point.<br />
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The system in this case cared not for justice, it was concerned only about carefully selected points of law. (it seemed to ignore all the international law obligations that would have totally exhonerated Mary Kelly and in fact endorsed her actions)Ramsey Clark evidencehttp://www.indymedia.ie/article/60268#comment393742003-07-06T13:39:45+00:00James McKennaFormer US attorney general , from the JFK administration, Ramsey Clark summed up...Former US attorney general , from the JFK administration, Ramsey Clark summed up Mary Kellys action very well in his evidence:<br />
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"Mary Kelly acted to disarm a war plane and preserve the peace. Property is not sacrosanct."<br />
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"If the world had her conscience and courage, there would not have been a war in Iraq."<br />
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"The plane was part of a war of aggression and Mary Kelly sought to intervene in a symbolic way to disarm one plane."<br />
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"What Mary Kelly did was in harmony with the law and was trying to preserve life against US aggression. What she did was like taking bullets out of a gun."'If the world had her conscience & courage'...http://www.indymedia.ie/article/60268#comment394292003-07-07T02:15:25+00:00SeáinínYeah! Yeah" It doesn't so shut up. Head in the clouds anyone?Yeah! Yeah" It doesn't so shut up. Head in the clouds anyone?What about Dublin IAWM protests?http://www.indymedia.ie/article/60268#comment394342003-07-07T04:13:50+00:00CuriousAnybody know how the IAWM protests in Dublin on July 4th & 5th went? Numbers, re...Anybody know how the IAWM protests in Dublin on July 4th & 5th went? Numbers, report, etc. would be nice, seeing as nobody has published anything on the newswire.Brief embassy reporthttp://www.indymedia.ie/article/60268#comment394542003-07-07T11:48:59+00:00AndrewI was at the picket of the US ambassadors residence on July 4th.
There were m...I was at the picket of the US ambassadors residence on July 4th.<br />
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There were maybe between 60 and 90 people there and 15 odd cops who started off quite aggressive (forbidding the use of megaphones etc) when there was 20 protesters there but quietened down as more arrived. They tried to coral the protest behind barricades set back a bit from the road and 50m from the gate but when enough people had arrived we walked onto one half of the road leading up to the gates to jeer those arriving. I left about 90 minutes after the advertised starting time so not sure if anything happened after this.<br />
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Groups I remember seeing people from included SWP, CW, SP, ISN and WSM as well as the Palestine Solidarity campaign. May have been others also.Dhttp://www.indymedia.ie/article/60268#comment395592003-07-07T18:49:04+00:00DWell done Mary.Well done Mary.Well done...http://www.indymedia.ie/article/60268#comment396412003-07-08T14:05:14+00:00cb...Mary Kelly! And to the Jury of Co. Clare for their brave and thought provokin......Mary Kelly! And to the Jury of Co. Clare for their brave and thought provoking decision. Thanks for a great report Deirdre. And to all others, such as Tim and the many other diligant supporters/activists, who showed no sign of letting this go.<br />
It really was inspiring to see the events of this trial unfold. And to see the people who were willing to back up Mary in the trial. <br />
Las acciones de alguna persona en este mundo me dan la esperanza para llevar mis creencias.Thankshttp://www.indymedia.ie/article/60268#comment396962003-07-08T19:31:41+00:00Claire Tclairetreanor at hotmail dot comJust to say thanks Deirdre for a great report. I couldn't make it down to Clare ...Just to say thanks Deirdre for a great report. I couldn't make it down to Clare for the trial, but was very much there in spirit. Mary deserves to be commended for her courage and integrity. Her willingness to compromise her own future in order to defend the future of unknown innocents is truly admirable. Her refusal to despair at a world that can all too easily put the blinkers on, stands as a shining example to us all.<br />
Well done to Mary, her defenders and her supporters. Onwards now.Mary Kelly Acquittalhttp://www.indymedia.ie/article/60268#comment402602003-07-14T23:28:26+00:00Mary GallagherCongratulations, Mary!
And to the Kilrush jury whose refusal to convict Mary ...Congratulations, Mary!<br />
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And to the Kilrush jury whose refusal to convict Mary fills me with pride for the land of my ancestors.<br />
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End the Occupation!Ulla Roder An Mary Kelly Must Pay for their crimes!http://www.indymedia.ie/article/60268#comment423492003-08-05T18:57:29+00:00Spenser ByrdWhat they did was attack and disable 2 warplanes, and for that they should be pu...What they did was attack and disable 2 warplanes, and for that they should be punished to the full extent of the law. Not to mention tresspassing with criminal intent. These 2 should be in jail for this, and it doesn't matter their reasons they did an attack on planes, and damn the reason. This is not to be tolerated, and I say make an example of themSure ye don't know what ye're on about at all at all!http://www.indymedia.ie/article/60268#comment424672003-08-07T00:38:36+00:00Phuq HeddQUOTE: What they did was attack and disable 2 warplanes,
ANSWER: Glad that yo...QUOTE: What they did was attack and disable 2 warplanes,<br />
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ANSWER: Glad that you admit that they were warplanes. That means that you accept that the USA was guilty of breaching Ireland's neutrality. Mary Kelly is a hero to the plain ordinary people of this island.Spenser,keep on thinking ,you might get there....but I doubt ithttp://www.indymedia.ie/article/60268#comment510822003-10-30T18:25:40+00:00paul o toolepauljotoole at eircom dot netyou must have one of thoose brains that tells you that you wont burn your finger...you must have one of thoose brains that tells you that you wont burn your finger this time ...do you?<br />
I think, the people whom these warplanes were going to kill, should pay for the damage done to them. Cos if it was'nt for their existence in the first place Bush ,Blair and Bertie wouldn't have to kill them... and they should also be invoiced for the missiles used to kill them ....o wait,I think they have. Or mabey the Irish state should pay the bill, after all George did thank Bertie with a small brown envelope with a few mill. for parking the plane at Shannon, he could just write off the damage as part of the cost of doing buisness. Alternatively ,you spenser could decide who lives or dies and remove anyone else from having to consult their concience in theese matters.But you will need to change the law,because unfortunately as it stands,it is illegal to launch an attack on another country or target civilians,unless of cource you are George Bush Tony Blair or Bertie Aherne,then for some reason you are not bound by law....pity haw. See you in hell spenser..peace, out.spenserhttp://www.indymedia.ie/article/60268#comment510962003-10-30T19:39:02+00:00zero'and for that they should be punished to the full extent of the law'
fine. m...'and for that they should be punished to the full extent of the law'<br />
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fine. mary kelly and the catholic worker 5 should be punished only as much as bertie, bush and blair for their crimes.<br />
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punished, no more and no less.Punished to the full extent of what law...........?for what spenserhttp://www.indymedia.ie/article/60268#comment514412003-11-03T19:56:45+00:00paul otoolepauljotoole at eircom dot netYou obviously respect a lifeless humongus piece of metal engaged exclusively to ...You obviously respect a lifeless humongus piece of metal engaged exclusively to kill civilians more than you respect life it self,so theres little point in telling you that the criminal damage laws also apply to firemen who damage property in order to save lives.The 'exemptions' also apply which come in handy,especially if its your life hanging in the balance.Should firemen be charged with smashing hall doors to save children inside? Mabey you think so. But your obviously not looking down the barrel of an m-16,or looking at a fireman trying to decide wether (or not) to hose your burning house down with your family inside,in case you might sue him for water damage.Or your not waiting in the middle of the night with your family for the last time,cos even one tamahawk can ruin your family lifeSee me in Hell?http://www.indymedia.ie/article/60268#comment779712004-06-11T01:14:22+00:00Spenser ByrdHonestly expressing a fact that what she did WAS ILLEGAL gets me a ticket to an ...Honestly expressing a fact that what she did WAS ILLEGAL gets me a ticket to an imaginary place mythical for it's supposed everlasting torture? Come on. Keep your emotions from clouding your head, the law is the law and she broke it so she should be held accountable for her crimes. Why would you say see you in hell? It means your there also! I'm not sure you know what your talking about. I think she should do her time like everyone else. She's a nut, and she didn't actually stop anything big so what was the point? The plane can be fixed or replaced, and the end result is she's a crazy old lady who cost us some money and should pay it back.What lives were saved by her as a result of this action?http://www.indymedia.ie/article/60268#comment779732004-06-11T01:49:51+00:00Spenser Byrd...I'll tell you none! Since when did this become an act of heroism? Come on I b......I'll tell you none! Since when did this become an act of heroism? Come on I believe both sides are getting killed! It's just that one side is a little better funded, and has a lot more stuff. There are much better people in the war than her. War is not good, but neither is torturing your own Olympic team and making them wallow in their own raw sewage after they have been beaten so they get infected. There are two sides to a war, and neither are lily white. To choose which is more for peace is it really that hard? How could you come up with such a wrong conclusion? Think of it this way. No heaven No hell we are just here, and there is a common bond not exactly the strongest but its there to some of your fellow man. There happens to be a group getting horribly tortured and murdered for no good reason, (those of you thinking Bush is doing the torture think about Uday and his victims which aren't the only ones) Now still thinking that way if you don't do something and keep letting it happen it says its ok and the thought "out of sight and out of mind" strengthens. The best way to change what you don't like is join, you decide, you join an office and face the harsh reality that you only live once and then cease to be entirely. Think of it that way, and then think of the people dying on both sides, and think of the reasons behind both sides. Think of the heroism, think of the fact that soldiers are out their only living once, willing to give their life for citizens they have never meant because they think it’s wrong that they were getting tortured. Now think of the abuse of prisoners for a second also (see NO SIDE IS PERFECTLY RIGHT) No for a second regardless of what you think if someone shoots and kills your friend or someone right next to you your going to be shocked and have a great amount of hatred. By the way this happens on BOTH sides of the war. Now you capture the person or one of the group who is responsible or maybe they did nothing well I do think you would loose control if you had the chance. Well due to some screw ups you get it and you kill him. That tells you what? Or better yet think about you having an 11 year old daughter who a 32 year old rapes, if you think you know who did it you would want them dead and you would want to do it. There are about 50 things to think about leading you to what conclusion? Who knows there is no obvious answer, but time money and energy could have been better spent rather than destroying a plane, the following legal issues and having praise be put on you for what? Something that was more symbolic of a disagreement to the war than anything? If you feel so strongly get out there and do something more successful and appropriate. Keeping in mind what the other side does is doing and will do knowing that no one is doing the "right" thing. And that's not even a fraction of how complicated this thing is. Look just know that we have biasts, but listen and discard what you disagree with what I have typed but the things that have some sense to them listen and try to see things from all of the perspectives.A hero to be proud ofhttp://www.indymedia.ie/article/60268#comment795152004-06-23T21:11:41+00:00Fearghas Ó Brógáinbroga at eircom dot netI wish I had the courage to do what Mary Kelly did. Where can I make a contribut...I wish I had the courage to do what Mary Kelly did. Where can I make a contribution to her defence fund?