OscailtThe Anglo Deal and a possible positive future for Ireland without FF/FGNo More FF/FG
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Another problem is there are very few parties to choose from,look around,all we have is FG,Labour,Fianna Fail,Sinn Fein(who get little votes),and independants,(who tend to be self serving careerists),and nobody in ireland has even heard of direct democracy,a new political party which has formed in ireland.<br />
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Nobody bothers to look for the alternatives,or they are too afriad to vote for them,thats part of the problem.response to Janehttp://www.indymedia.ie/article/103263#comment2944932013-02-12T19:35:26+00:00ordinary citizenYes jane i read the new opinion poll which showed FF with 26% and was shocked. T...Yes jane i read the new opinion poll which showed FF with 26% and was shocked. The farthest Left the older generation will vote is Labour and they have shot themselves in the foot by going in with FG. The positive to take from the polls is that the combined vote of FF/FG is falling, where once they got two thirds now they are heading towards half and i feel that this percentage will drop further as the next generation start to vote. The rise in support for a party like Sinn Fein, which got 19% in the poll, i believe has a lot to do with younger voters looking for alternatives. This generation were not brought up around the troubles and thus don't have the hang ups that the older generation have with SF.<br />
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SF don't get a lot of second preference votes and i think that FF wont get many either so they wont ever return to the highs of a few years back. You are correct about RTE and most of our media outlets, they spread distraction and attack the alternatives more than those in power. Most of those high up in RTE got there while FF were in and this is reflected in the way they are portrayed. Recently a show about the Crisis was aired and all the FF ministers were able to blame Cowen and Lenehan for everything, The journalist Brenda Power was on RTE recently and she said that FF were the only real alternative.<br />
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The more people understand Neo Liberal economics and how it attacks the basic services our ancestors fought so hard to get the more people will not vote for FF/FG. The system has been set up to have lots of commentators, who know all about the free market and use words like "competition" and so forth a lot but never fully explain what it all means. This is because they know that if people looked beyond the shiny surface that neo cons offer they will see some glaring contradictions. For example all countries who embraced neo liberal economics with its small gov and light touch regulation were hit hardest in '08 while countries like the Scandinavians who have strong gov and regulations were hit the least. The neo cons go on about letting the market decide but in '08 it was shown that the States are the insurance company for the market and like all insurance companies should be paid well but instead the markets attack countries every day for short term gain and give very little back for the mess they create. All these arguments are easy to explain but there is rarely a forum as debates revolve around the mess that neo liberalism has created rather than why we are where we are. The simple answer of greedy bankers does not go nearly deep enough, there have always been greedy people but the deliberate dismantling of gov intervention in all matters, that began in the 70s with Milton Friendman and the Chicago Boys, is the real root of so much of our present problems.<br />
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It looks likely that SF will have enough to go in with FF, this will be a test on long term strategy for SF. If they say no and Labour don't have enough this will finally force FF to talk with their natural allies FG and if they form a gov the Irish political landscape will have changed forever. People will no longer be able to hide behind Civil War politics, there will be a clear left/Right divide, something that has never existed since the foundation of the state and is the norm in almost every other country in the world. For an alternative to be possible we need Labour to get up around 20% again, which wont happen in the next election but maybe the one after that. This combines with SF, the ULA, a few Greens and a few Left Wing Indos and we could get the magic 83 TDs. If this gov immediately dropped TDs wages massively as well as ministers, people would sit up and take notice.<br />
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By then there will be very little left to bleed out of the poor and a real hunger for the rich to pay, even more than there exists at present. The budget deficit should be close enough that higher taxes, a cap on Civil servants pay of €100k a year combined with a wealth tax should bridge the gap and that will free us up to up our tax take on our oil and gas and lead to a brighter day. <br />
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Neo liberalism was always going to create a divided society, people are now being forced to ask the questions they never did before and i am hearing a lot more rebellious talk by ordinary people daily. THe neo cons had the head start but we are catching up, don't give up the gith will be long and there will be many more dark days ahead like the sale our forests and state assets but believe that one day we will be able to take back what has been robbed from us and create the society that many of our ancestors thought we would create when they fought and died for our freedom. The church took over then, followed by neo cons and their billionaire media moguls, who dont pay taxes here but who will one day not only pay their fair share but will be made pay all the money they should have been paying and if they try anything we will take their assets, their homes in Dalkey, yea that was directed at Bono and justice will be done.