The Politics.ie 3 - Create a new online Political Forum
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Thursday August 06, 2009 21:18
by Mr Crowley
Myself and two other regular contributors to p.ie were recently banned in a heavy-handed example of political censorship. We have created a new board and wish to draw attention to it.
Some of you will know me from Politics.ie, indeed I got a mention or two over here in regard to the Bolivia incident. Recently Herr Cochrane decided to initiate a purge of Republican posters on the board, prior to going on holidays. Myself, 5intheface, Gruffalo and Merle Haggard were all banned in spurious circumstances. Merle got a 5 day and the rest of us, The Politics.ie 3, were permanently banned.
There has been considerable uproar among regular contributors with several threads on the matter and we have received calls for reinstatement from all shades of polical opinion. The P.IE 3 maintain a '1 out all out' policy and at this stage Cochrane can stick it. Many posters have highlighted issues of double standards over there, particularly where rightwing trolls are concerned. One troll in particular, Galmor, was several posters working together; one of which appeared to be Cochrane himself.
Sickened as we are by all of this nonsense, we decided to create our own board. It's on a 'freeforums' platform so there won't be any bells and whistles but we hope to provide a less up-tight and more impartial venue for political debate. All shades of political opinion are welcome but trolls will be liquidated on sight, regardless of apparent political opinion.
We hope to see some of you soon.
Comments (14 of 14)
Jump To Comment: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14Congratulations on your new site, it takes a lot of courage to put yourself out there like that. I just have a couple of questions:
Will your site be heavily moderated?
Will smaller groups be allowed to make press releases / have discussions there?
I do wish you the best of luck with it.
We don't tend to take ourselves too seriously over there so we won't be interfering with free speech unless it is racist, sexist or sectarian. We will be stepping in as much as possible to prevent trolling as it is entirely against the spirit of good and open debate; apart from that we hope to have very little moderation to perform as it only keeps us from discussion.
Any political or campaign group that is related to Ireland will be given their own sections to in both the political discussion and political theory/resource sections upon request. There will also be the possibilty that we may appoint representatives from these groups to moderate their own sections with oversight from ourselves to ensure fair play.
I've signed up already!!
Great work, but don't fall into the P.C. trap, (If Merle is on board that shouldn't happen).
Count me in, a reluctant F.G. General Election supporter but anti Lisbon, libertarian.
Congratulations Mr Crowley on setting up your forum. May the luck be with you.
If anyone is interested in setting up a Irish politics community properly (capable of competing with the likes of politics.ie) feel free to pop me an email.
Tok is a new Irish discussion forum started a week ago - Mr. Crowley and other familiar posters can be found there.
http://www.hostingphpbb.com/forum/index.php?mforum=tok
New posters are welcome. The site will be user-driven and aims to provide an open forum in which people can have in depth debate on politics, economics, economics, the environment and culture, in a friendly forum.
Tok ! is going good after three weeks with over 50 members and 1,500 posts. http://tiny.cc/Tok
And on the side - our members' blog on Wordpress - http://blogtok.wordpress.com/
See you there. :)
As from today, our forum (Tok!) has moved to its own domain name at politicalworld.org http://www.politicalworld.org/
All members please re-register - contact me via Tok! if you have any difficulties.
New members are very welcome. The forum is open for debate of Irish and International politics, the environment, the economy and off-topic chat.
There will be a full new Forum in place in next 2-3 weeks.
We can join up if you want as we came from same places.
It's five months now since Political World was started as a place for open political discussion. We're just coming up to our 500th member and 50,000th post. You're welcome to join us.
Since EEC membership in 1972 when Ireland fell foul to, at best naive Irish politicians and at worst, corrupt Irish politicians, we have had no control over our destiny. We have no natural resources to call our own not because we don't but because they have been tricked away from us by the vultures behind the 'great European project'. Now , at a time that we see GB exiting the EU, we need to reclaim our resources and build a nation that is based on real resources, real wealth, and real NATIONAL PRIDE. When we gave the wrong result first time to Lisbon ('the 'EU Constitution') we were criticised for being uncharitable to new EU countries in need after all the charity we had received! But this was not true. We received crumbs from the EU table to keep us happy in return for the EU raping our world-class fishing grounds! Let us now take a two step approach: 1) Referrendum to leave the EU sess-pit, and 2) State control of fisheries rights and oil/gas rights in Irish waters. If we wait another decade or so, when the damage will be so much more evident, and we are nothing more than a poor region of Germany's Europe, we will find exiting with our resources met with a forceful NO from EU! Let us act now while we have a friendly, powerful neighbour doing likewise
In stating that "State control of fisheries rights and oil/gas rights in Irish waters" should be a constitutional objective the poster is overlooking that historically the Irish fishing fleet has been small and can't compete with the big fleets and factory ships of Spain, Japan and elsewhere. Does the Irish state have the political will and the financial ability to expand the national fishing fleet so that it can compete for diminishing marine food resources with the big fishing nations?
The point is that the Irish government should control these 'rights'. In doing so, your point about Ireland having the money to support a large fishing fleet is moot because the Irish government would decide on charges and taxes, where the countries with large fleets could fish but with a share of the profits going to the Irish people. Right now the EU is already implying that they hold this right legally and taking this control of our waters back will prove increasingly difficult through the passage of time
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